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Oct 19^th, 2022 at 5:48pm

Seems the Stats tell the tale of the tape with China looking way more potent than the USA these days.
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/report-finds-us-military-is-weak-and-will-s...

...and while White Man is at war again with Yellow Man (Race War?).
Black Man is poking his White Woman like 'hippy free love' back at home. Cheesy

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Captain Caveman Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6211 Gender:	Re: China would whip USA arse according to... Reply #1 - Oct 19^th, 2022 at 9:02pm That farrking prime minister of Ukraine is an actor. He loves his nato green screens. China and Russia combined will flatten em. USA is broke. It cannot afford a cuppa tea let alone a war. Over 30T or something now. Team merika...fuukk yeah. Xi just told all chinese people to get out of Ukraine.
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Setanta Gold Member Offline \/ Peace man! Posts: 17230 Northern NSW Gender:	Re: China would whip USA arse according to... Reply #2 - Oct 19^th, 2022 at 9:08pm Quote: The US military has grown increasingly week over the years https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/report-finds-us-military-is-weak-and-will-s...
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Reply #3 - Oct 19^th, 2022 at 9:15pm

Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 19^th, 2022 at 9:02pm:

Xi just told all chinese people to get out of Ukraine. Roll Eyes

If that is true, it is time for a few trips to the supermarket, to stock up on those extra toilet rolls again.

And get in a few weeks supply of some 'non-perishable' food that you 'will eat'.

All 1st world nations, 2022, are morphing into......what ?

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Reply #4 - Oct 19^th, 2022 at 9:16pm

Hilarious that anyone would think that the US and NATO has deployed even 20% of their capacity to wage war in Ukraine.

They've given Ukraine just enough to stand toe-to-toe with the Russian Federation, while their collective right hand is tied behind their back.

As one military expert said - the US owns the sky and the night on the battlefield - The US has not deployed its gargantuan air superiority and nighttime capacity in Ukraine (air superiority being the advantage that unites its entire military), which is calibrated to defeat the next two superpowers after the US at the same time.

The two most powerful air forces in the world are the US Airforce; after that - the US Navy.

And you better believe that two people who are certain of this are Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping.

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Reply #5 - Oct 19^th, 2022 at 9:23pm

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Just hope we don't find out.

We seen with Russia that it isn't always like we think.

Right back to the Vietnam days US troops didn't always have the best reputation but they do have numbers and tech on their side against most opponents. China is an unknown certainly impressive numbers

There is no need for anyone to start anything, in fact it would be stupid.

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Reply #6 - Oct 19^th, 2022 at 9:27pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 19^th, 2022 at 9:16pm:

Hilarious that anyone would think that the US and NATO has deployed even 20% of their capacity to wage war in Ukraine.

They've given Ukraine just enough to stand toe-to-toe with the Russian Federation, while their collective right hand is tied behind their back.

As one military expert said - the US owns the sky and the night on the battlefield - The US has not deployed its gargantuan air superiority and nighttime capacity in Ukraine (air superiority being the advantage that unites its entire military), which is calibrated to defeat the next two superpowers after the US at the same time.

The two most powerful air forces in the world are the US Airforce; after that - the US Navy.

And you better believe that two people who are certain of this are Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping.

And the USA and NATO should have gone in straight away in February 2022
and given the Russians a quick lesson they'd never forget.

Remember all those Russian tanks lined up on the highway to Kiev? -
that would have been another highway of death just like North/West of Kuwait in 1991.

https://www.warhistoryonline.com/war-articles/the-kuwait-highway-of-death.html?f...

The convoy was three miles long, and the US engaged all of its available aerial attack units to target it. However, bad weather and low visibility was hindering the attack.

First to reach the convoy were USMC A-6E Intruder jets with ammunition of Mark 20 Rockeye cluster bombs. They targeted the front and rear ends of the convoy to prevent it moving back or forwards and thus become a prime target for more attacks. The convoy became cut off.

Subsequently, the entire convoy was attacked by coalition aerial forces for around 10 hours. Any vehicle that diverted off of the highway was tracked, hunted and destroyed.

A-10_Thunderbolt_II_In-flight-2

An A-10 Warthog aircraft pilot who took part in the attacks said that it was like a fireworks show with explosions all over the place.

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Reply #7 - Oct 19^th, 2022 at 9:31pm

Dnarever wrote on Oct 19^th, 2022 at 9:23pm:

China is an unknown certainly impressive numbers

Even the CCP wouldn't risk rolling the dice with the PLA against the US.

The PLA has never fought a war and loses skirmishes.

You can forget about the US needing to use nuclear weapons its conventional arsenal is so great it has no need to resort to nuclear.

The US would be victorious in any war with China and Russia combined - the problem is the US would win so quickly and decisively that regimes in the entire Asian continent (with the exception of India if backed by the US) would be destabilised and collapse within a week.

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Reply #8 - Oct 19^th, 2022 at 9:37pm

Bobby. wrote on Oct 19^th, 2022 at 9:27pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 19^th, 2022 at 9:16pm:

Hilarious that anyone would think that the US and NATO has deployed even 20% of their capacity to wage war in Ukraine.

They've given Ukraine just enough to stand toe-to-toe with the Russian Federation, while their collective right hand is tied behind their back.

As one military expert said - the US owns the sky and the night on the battlefield - The US has not deployed its gargantuan air superiority and nighttime capacity in Ukraine (air superiority being the advantage that unites its entire military), which is calibrated to defeat the next two superpowers after the US at the same time.

The two most powerful air forces in the world are the US Airforce; after that - the US Navy.

And you better believe that two people who are certain of this are Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping.

And the USA and NATO should have gone in straight away in February 2022
and given the Russians a quick lesson they'd never forget.

Why? If they did, It would not be Ukraine's victory; it would be the US and NATO's

Also, this war has forced Russia to see for itself that is a hopeless shadow of its Soviet Union self.

By the time this is over, it will be decades before Russia will even be able to get up off the mat.

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Reply #9 - Oct 19^th, 2022 at 9:38pm

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There is no need for anyone to start anything, in fact it would be stupid.

History teaches us, that human conflict once started, can have an un-imagined path and progress, for both the defender and for the one who 'wanted' [initiated] the conflict.

And conflicts can quickly burn the [entire] contents of national treasuries.

The upside of war, is that during wartime, everyone will be given employment [or they will not eat].

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Reply #10 - Oct 19^th, 2022 at 9:42pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 19^th, 2022 at 9:37pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 19^th, 2022 at 9:27pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 19^th, 2022 at 9:16pm:

Hilarious that anyone would think that the US and NATO has deployed even 20% of their capacity to wage war in Ukraine.

They've given Ukraine just enough to stand toe-to-toe with the Russian Federation, while their collective right hand is tied behind their back.

As one military expert said - the US owns the sky and the night on the battlefield - The US has not deployed its gargantuan air superiority and nighttime capacity in Ukraine (air superiority being the advantage that unites its entire military), which is calibrated to defeat the next two superpowers after the US at the same time.

The two most powerful air forces in the world are the US Airforce; after that - the US Navy.

And you better believe that two people who are certain of this are Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping.

And the USA and NATO should have gone in straight away in February 2022
and given the Russians a quick lesson they'd never forget.

Why? If they did, It would not be Ukraine's victory; it would be the US and NATO's

Also, this war has forced Russia to see for itself that is a hopeless shadow of its Soviet Union self.

By the time this is over, it will be decades before Russia will even be able to get up off the mat.

To add to that, the US is making Putin pay for his homoerotic bromance with Trump, where Trump humiliated his own military.

The US military has a very, very long memory - as Elon Musk is going to find out.

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chimera Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 14925 Armidale Gender:	Re: China would whip USA arse according to... Reply #11 - Oct 20^th, 2022 at 5:11am https://www.csis.org/analysis/united-states-running-out-weapons-send-ukraine About 1/3 of stocks are for Ukraine, that's on the border-line of US security and re-building will take years.
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Reply #13 - Oct 20^th, 2022 at 8:25am

We are all wrong to think that when China and USA goes into conflict, who would have to win against another. No its not the case. The USA would have to win with absolution, but the Chinese side, they have more options.

I do not think they are foolish enough to invade Taiwan as a precursor to the conflict. It is impossible to fight off a navy battle in the pacific against multiple nations, AND try to invade Taiwan at the same time. They dont have the man power or the economic backing to do this.

The status of Taiwan as a state rest on one thing, and one thing only. That is, China will have to face up to the might of the US pacific fleet in the pacific ocean. But it does not have to win. All it have to do is to inflict enough damage to it to keep it at bay. This is why their naval development over the recent years is very targeted at anti air, anti missile, and anti capital ship technology.

I think the conflict will start with something really small and silly. Perhaps a military drill goes wrong in the South China Sea, and one of the test missile hit another. This would provide excuse for both sides to do a sort of test run at each other. The other nations will of course like always sit out, and watch the outcome.

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Reply #14 - Oct 20^th, 2022 at 9:53am

tickleandrose wrote on Oct 20^th, 2022 at 8:25am:

We are all wrong to think that when China and USA goes into conflict, who would have to win against another. No its not the case. The USA would have to win with absolution, but the Chinese side, they have more options.

The US and its allies would win without a doubt against an untested and non-battle-disciplined PLA. I have seen footage of PLA soldiers 'training' (not the Beijing brigade's military displays), they're all over the shop. Cha bu duo marching.

The problem is that the US and its allies would win so completely and so quickly, that the CCP would collapse, as the Chinese people realise that they had been kowtowing to, abused by and stolen from a regime that, far from being a military superpower, are a bunch of angry boy scouts and undisciplined gangsters with guns.

Revenge against CCP officials in every province for their abuse of the people would ensure that China would become ungovernable.

Independence uprisings within China, as the people intuit CCP weakness, would begin within days - the Chinese people are eminently capable of great courage and eating bitter (Chi Ku - as they say), and would easily fight to the death for freedom from the CCP.

That would be the problem with a US-China war - the destabilisation of the Asian continent.

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