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Re: Crimean Bridge Collapses!
Reply #45 - Oct 9^th, 2022 at 8:03am

issuevoter wrote on Oct 9^th, 2022 at 6:53am:

It does appear to have been well planned and timed for the train crossing. However, it was not a complete success. The roadway is still partially usable and the train tankers did not explode.

No. The other track is not usable especially by heavy vehicles. The fire on the fuel train will (or may) have damaged the concrete. There will be light or zero traffic until the bridge is fixed.

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Re: Crimean Bridge Collapses!
Reply #46 - Oct 9^th, 2022 at 8:14am

Bobby. wrote on Oct 9^th, 2022 at 7:59am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 9^th, 2022 at 7:53am:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 9^th, 2022 at 7:38am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 9^th, 2022 at 7:27am:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 9^th, 2022 at 6:59am:

Marla wrote on Oct 9^th, 2022 at 6:44am:

Shut up, Bobby

What have I ever done to you?

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Bobby...WTF???

I dunno?

Why did you post up a picture of a a Ukrainian or Russian woman ???

It's her profile picture.

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=Marla

Ohhhh....the nutter's put up that pic now. Dear God! How pathetic ☹️

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Re: Crimean Bridge Collapses!
Reply #47 - Oct 9^th, 2022 at 8:31am

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 9^th, 2022 at 8:03am:

issuevoter wrote on Oct 9^th, 2022 at 6:53am:

It does appear to have been well planned and timed for the train crossing. However, it was not a complete success. The roadway is still partially usable and the train tankers did not explode.

No. The other track is not usable especially by heavy vehicles. The fire on the fuel train will (or may) have damaged the concrete. There will be light or zero traffic until the bridge is fixed.

Each day brings our world closer to nuclear warfare.

This tension can't continue (obviously). Whatever's going to happen will happen suddenly. Putin will eventually crack (and we all know that he's hovering at that point right now).

We are living in very precarious times. Make no mistake ... the global recession is on track to hit every country in a brutal way. Australia is no exception. China is currently suffering and this conflict btwn Russia and Ukraine is affecting fuel prices and supply chain processes. All this is right on the back of global Covid19 devastation.

It's time to plan ahead. Be clever with your money. Stock up supplies and be in a strong position to be self sufficient as much as possible so as to help those vulnerable around you. Think family and neighbours because it's time to start thinking local village.

You can't help anyone if you are not in a strong position yourself. That means taking responsibility for your physical and financial health.

I'm terribly worried.

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Re: Crimean Bridge Collapses!
Reply #48 - Oct 9^th, 2022 at 8:37am

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 9^th, 2022 at 8:31am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 9^th, 2022 at 8:03am:

issuevoter wrote on Oct 9^th, 2022 at 6:53am:

It does appear to have been well planned and timed for the train crossing. However, it was not a complete success. The roadway is still partially usable and the train tankers did not explode.

No. The other track is not usable especially by heavy vehicles. The fire on the fuel train will (or may) have damaged the concrete. There will be light or zero traffic until the bridge is fixed.

Each day brings our world closer to nuclear warfare.

This tension can't continue (obviously). Whatever's going to happen will happen suddenly. Putin will eventually crack (and we all know that he's hovering at that point right now).

We are living in very precarious times. Make no mistake ... the global recession is on track to hit every country in a brutal way. Australia is no exception. China is currently suffering and this conflict btwn Russia and Ukraine is affecting fuel prices and supply chain processes. All this is right on the back of global Covid19 devastation.

It's time to plan ahead. Be clever with your money. Stock up supplies and be in a strong position to be self sufficient as much as possible so as to help those vulnerable around you. Think family and neighbours because it's time to start thinking local village.

You can't help anyone if you are not in a strong position yourself. That means taking responsibility for your physical and financial health.

I'm terribly worried.

Hi Lisa,
Are you prepared?
Are there any preppers here? -
those who have a bunker, gas masks, weapons, water and food?

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Re: Crimean Bridge Collapses!
Reply #49 - Oct 9^th, 2022 at 9:04am

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 9^th, 2022 at 8:03am:

issuevoter wrote on Oct 9^th, 2022 at 6:53am:

It does appear to have been well planned and timed for the train crossing. However, it was not a complete success. The roadway is still partially usable and the train tankers did not explode.

No. The other track is not usable especially by heavy vehicles. The fire on the fuel train will (or may) have damaged the concrete. There will be light or zero traffic until the bridge is fixed.

No? . . . Yes. Go to the BBC news.

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Reply #50 - Oct 9^th, 2022 at 12:06pm

The spans sit unfastened to the pylons to allow for thermal expansion. The explosion would have damaged the bearers of both road tracks. The fuel fire will have weakened the concrete on the railroad bridge.

This was the opinions of some engineers and ex army sappers on Twitter and that seems right to me.

If one road track is still usable than that is a good thing—will allow russians to evacuate Crimea.

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Reply #51 - Oct 9^th, 2022 at 12:16pm

Russia couldn't supply the tank group at Kyiv. Couldn't hold its dug-in positions. Couldn't defend a major naval ship. Can't organise conscription sensibly. Was warned about the obvious target of the Crimea bridge.

'Moscow had claimed the bridge was protected by impenetrable layers of defences, ranging from military dolphins to the latest weapons systems, but had also threatened harsh retaliation if it was targeted.'

Maybe its nukes will work but how incompetent to need nukes against a smaller force like Ukraine. And the generals keep being replaced. Putin's not anti-Russian....
is he?

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Marla Gold Member Offline Run for me, MAGA bunny. Posts: 14179 Colorado Gender:	Re: Crimean Bridge Collapses! Reply #52 - Oct 9^th, 2022 at 12:43pm Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 9^th, 2022 at 8:31am: Each day brings our world closer to nuclear warfare. Cool or what? I have been so looking forward to the day where mankind finally annihilates itself. We are the dinosaurs now
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Marla Gold Member Offline Run for me, MAGA bunny. Posts: 14179 Colorado Gender:	Re: Crimean Bridge Collapses! Reply #53 - Oct 9^th, 2022 at 12:50pm FEAR FEAR FEAR Nothing like living in fear.
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 111678 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Crimean Bridge Collapses! Reply #54 - Oct 9^th, 2022 at 12:56pm Marla wrote on Oct 9^th, 2022 at 12:50pm: FEAR FEAR FEAR Nothing like living in fear. Can't be viewed from Australia.
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Marla Gold Member Offline Run for me, MAGA bunny. Posts: 14179 Colorado Gender:	Re: Crimean Bridge Collapses! Reply #55 - Oct 9^th, 2022 at 1:05pm Then move.
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Re: Crimean Bridge Collapses!
Reply #56 - Oct 9^th, 2022 at 1:06pm

Marla wrote on Oct 9^th, 2022 at 12:43pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 9^th, 2022 at 8:31am:

Each day brings our world closer to nuclear warfare.

Cool or what? I have been so looking forward to the day where mankind finally annihilates itself. We are the dinosaurs now

you'll be crying for your mumma after you miss 2 meals and you'll be shaking with fear when the lights go out. dont kid yourself, 65 yo fat man who works at the DMV Grin

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Reply #57 - Oct 9^th, 2022 at 1:08pm

Military dolphins.
'The Soviet Navy operated a research facility to explore military uses of marine mammals near Sevastopol.

A Soviet military Beluga whale named Tichka twice escaped in 1991 and 1992, crossed the Black Sea and was admired by the residents of the Turkish town Gerze, who called him Aydın. In 2019, a beluga whale was found off the coast of Norway that was believed to have most likely been trained by the Russian Navy. The beluga, called Hvaldimir, was wearing a harness that was labeled "Equipment of St. Petersburg", seemed comfortable around humans, and attempted to pull ropes from the sides of a Norwegian fishing vessel.

The Soviet military dolphin program was passed to the Ukrainian Navy. In 2012, Ukraine allegedly "resurrected" the military dolphin program. After the 2014 annexation of Crimea, the Ukrainian dolphin program was taken over by Russia. One claim suggests that dolphins died patriotically after going on hunger strikes and resisting their Russian captors'.

Reports of adult beluga say they weigh to 1.5 tons. A 4 lb. fish can apply 6-8 lbs of force to the line. So a whale can tow 3 tons of explosive in a submerged pontoon, perhaps being trained to follow an underwater drone to the bridge.

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Marla Gold Member Offline Run for me, MAGA bunny. Posts: 14179 Colorado Gender:	Re: Crimean Bridge Collapses! Reply #58 - Oct 9^th, 2022 at 1:20pm aquascoot wrote on Oct 9^th, 2022 at 1:06pm: you'll be crying for your mumma after you miss 2 meals and you'll be shaking with fear when the lights go out. dont kid yourself, 65 yo fat man who works at the DMV Shame. Your schizophrenia is getting worse and worse.
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Reply #59 - Oct 9^th, 2022 at 1:23pm

https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-10-09-22/index....

Maxar satellite images captured the damage to the Kerch Strait bridge Saturday, shortly after an explosion rocked the only direct road and rail connection between annexed Crimea and mainland Russia.

The blast caused parts of the bridge to collapse, though Russian transportation officials restarted rail service and allowed vehicles to use some undamaged portions of the roadway by Saturday evening.

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