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Question: Will the referendum be voted in?
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Yes    
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The Aboriginal Voice referendum (Read 112802 times)
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Reply #945 - Feb 25th, 2023 at 9:29pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 25th, 2023 at 9:26pm:
Soren, is that your explanation for your attitude?  When are you going to do something for Australia?  When are you prepared to don a baggy green skin and rough for Australia or should we just pack you and your brood up and send you all home to Denmark, hey?  Remember you flew here mate, Indigenous Australians and I grew here.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Fuck off, you preening, vain, idiotic old prick. Just fuck off.

Is that "grew here" enough language for you?
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Reply #946 - Feb 25th, 2023 at 9:33pm
 
Frank wrote on Feb 25th, 2023 at 9:29pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 25th, 2023 at 9:26pm:
Soren, is that your explanation for your attitude?  When are you going to do something for Australia?  When are you prepared to don a baggy green skin and rough for Australia or should we just pack you and your brood up and send you all home to Denmark, hey?  Remember you flew here mate, Indigenous Australians and I grew here.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Fuck off, you preening, vain, idiotic old prick. Just fuck off.

Is that "grew here" enough language for you?


The only person who persists in a lie is you, Soren.  You think you belong here when you belong back in Denmark amongst all your Viking relatives.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Re: The Aboriginal Voice referendum
Reply #947 - Feb 25th, 2023 at 9:47pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 25th, 2023 at 9:33pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 25th, 2023 at 9:29pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 25th, 2023 at 9:26pm:
Soren, is that your explanation for your attitude?  When are you going to do something for Australia?  When are you prepared to don a baggy green skin and rough for Australia or should we just pack you and your brood up and send you all home to Denmark, hey?  Remember you flew here mate, Indigenous Australians and I grew here.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Fuck off, you preening, vain, idiotic old prick. Just fuck off.

Is that "grew here" enough language for you?


The only person who persists in a lie is you, Soren.  You think you belong here when you belong back in Denmark amongst all your Viking relatives.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

"Bugger off, you vain idiot"
"Oh, you are persisting in your lies, soren"



Bbwian, you are completely and utterly unmoored. Your post have little to no relation to what other people post. You do not remember what question of yours Fd should answer. You have idiotic stock answers, with yawns tut tuts and eyerolling - but zero connection to anything that was said before.

The mental wheelchair you are in is just bumping against obstacles like a faulty robot vacuum. You whirr and suck but can't move on from your little corner.
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Reply #948 - Feb 26th, 2023 at 10:09am
 
Go home to Denmark, Soren, be a Viking, sail a ship, be a barbarian, afterall that is all you post about, such a silly sausage.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #949 - Feb 26th, 2023 at 10:27am
 
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Reply #950 - Feb 26th, 2023 at 10:57am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 26th, 2023 at 10:27am:


Well - they should - all views should  be heard without all the vile name-calling going on from one side... all that will do is polarise people more and dig their trenches for them, and build in lasting hostilities and resentment.

ALL views should be heard openly and free of vitriol and subliminal violence and threats.  The alternatives will not be pretty in the long run.

Albo needs to STFU about his slagging off at NO sayers... and let the people speak.... f
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cking little peasant despot in a suit................
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Reply #951 - Feb 26th, 2023 at 11:39am
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 26th, 2023 at 10:57am:
Well - they should - all views should  be heard without all the vile name-calling going on from one side...


Only "vile name calling" I am seeing/hearing is from the likes of Gnads and Soren.  Calling a person a Racist because they are expressing Racist comments is hardly, "vile name calling", it is telling the truth politely.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Re: The Aboriginal Voice referendum
Reply #952 - Feb 26th, 2023 at 11:53am
 
"There are about 600 different Indigenous groups across Australia, all with varying needs, processes and culture."
Now we are up to 600 "first nation" all "diverse" and vibrantly different.

The woman in the article is from NSW, living in Victoria, sat on countless Aboriginal committees:
"As an Anaiwan women from NSW, she described the Bass Coast as having a multicultural community, comprised mostly of Aboriginal people who had moved to the area from elsewhere."

"The bulk of the money gets swallowed up by bureaucracy."
The Aboriginal bureaucracy.

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Reply #953 - Feb 26th, 2023 at 12:31pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 26th, 2023 at 11:39am:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 26th, 2023 at 10:57am:
Well - they should - all views should  be heard without all the vile name-calling going on from one side...


Only "vile name calling" I am seeing/hearing is from the likes of Gnads and Soren.  Calling a person a Racist because they are expressing Racist comments is hardly, "vile name calling", it is telling the truth politely.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


The name calling is directed at you ... not the subject matter.

You deserve it you repetitious old twat.
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Reply #954 - Feb 26th, 2023 at 1:14pm
 
Gnads wrote on Feb 26th, 2023 at 12:31pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 26th, 2023 at 11:39am:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 26th, 2023 at 10:57am:
Well - they should - all views should  be heard without all the vile name-calling going on from one side...


Only "vile name calling" I am seeing/hearing is from the likes of Gnads and Soren.  Calling a person a Racist because they are expressing Racist comments is hardly, "vile name calling", it is telling the truth politely.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


The name calling is directed at you ... not the subject matter.

You deserve it you repetitious old twat.


Graps, see what I mean, a clear example of, "vile name calling".  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Re: The Aboriginal Voice referendum
Reply #955 - Feb 26th, 2023 at 1:21pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 26th, 2023 at 1:14pm:
Gnads wrote on Feb 26th, 2023 at 12:31pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 26th, 2023 at 11:39am:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 26th, 2023 at 10:57am:
Well - they should - all views should  be heard without all the vile name-calling going on from one side...


Only "vile name calling" I am seeing/hearing is from the likes of Gnads and Soren.  Calling a person a Racist because they are expressing Racist comments is hardly, "vile name calling", it is telling the truth politely.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


The name calling is directed at you ... not the subject matter.

You deserve it you repetitious old twat.


Graps, see what I mean, a clear example of, "vile name calling".  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Build a bridge you old girlie skirt.
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Reply #956 - Feb 26th, 2023 at 1:25pm
 
Gnads wrote on Feb 26th, 2023 at 1:21pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 26th, 2023 at 1:14pm:
Gnads wrote on Feb 26th, 2023 at 12:31pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 26th, 2023 at 11:39am:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 26th, 2023 at 10:57am:
Well - they should - all views should  be heard without all the vile name-calling going on from one side...


Only "vile name calling" I am seeing/hearing is from the likes of Gnads and Soren.  Calling a person a Racist because they are expressing Racist comments is hardly, "vile name calling", it is telling the truth politely.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


The name calling is directed at you ... not the subject matter.

You deserve it you repetitious old twat.


Graps, see what I mean, a clear example of, "vile name calling".  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Build a bridge you old girlie skirt.


Oh, dearie, dearie, me, I've been called far worse by experts, Gnads.  What a WOFTAM. Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #957 - Feb 26th, 2023 at 2:17pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 26th, 2023 at 1:25pm:
Gnads wrote on Feb 26th, 2023 at 1:21pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 26th, 2023 at 1:14pm:
Gnads wrote on Feb 26th, 2023 at 12:31pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 26th, 2023 at 11:39am:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 26th, 2023 at 10:57am:
Well - they should - all views should  be heard without all the vile name-calling going on from one side...


Only "vile name calling" I am seeing/hearing is from the likes of Gnads and Soren.  Calling a person a Racist because they are expressing Racist comments is hardly, "vile name calling", it is telling the truth politely.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


The name calling is directed at you ... not the subject matter.

You deserve it you repetitious old twat.


Graps, see what I mean, a clear example of, "vile name calling".  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Build a bridge you old girlie skirt.


Oh, dearie, dearie, me, I've been called far worse by experts, Gnads.  What a WOFTAM. Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Well stop whinging then you old sheila.  Roll Eyes Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes
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Reply #958 - Feb 26th, 2023 at 4:29pm
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 25th, 2023 at 5:14pm:
So to accord with law everyone else should have more direct say over everything that affects their lives....

Already covered for you in my call for "Plebiscites To The People NOW!"... people includes Abos even though they kick in the traces all the time...


ah...the 'joys' of democracy...yet not even plebiscites  reduce the partisanship ravaging many democracies...

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Please explain why they, of all groups, should have more say etc..... and show us where, for example, 'the people' had a clear say in immigration policy and in economic stuff etc... then perhaps you could attempt to explain to us all what affects them ONLY and not others or everyone else in the community....


Obviously, at present - in order to advise on closing the gap.

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Give it a go - I know it's hard when the difficult questions are asked.

BTW - it isn't some mythical 'conservative element' that is trying to stuff the YES vote.... it's ordinary people asking legitimate questions and either being fobbed off or finding that the answers are unacceptable in our form of democracy.  The YES proposal is doing a fine job of stuffing itself up with the utterances of its advocates.....


I notice Burney and some of the teals believe the "generosity of Australians" will win the Yes vote. Remains to be seen.

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Just a fair go - what about a fair go for the other 97%?


This is the weakest of the several points you made; the (race-based) gap is egregious, and a national disgrace.

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Maybe you need to get your mind around what democracy is, sonny..... and it ain't no racist, apartheidist, one-sided voice........


Democracy is the "worst form of government".....but the best we've got, apparently......

Solution: guaranteed above poverty employment for all, then democracy is largely obsolete (except for minor issues)...

....carry on.... 
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Reply #959 - Feb 26th, 2023 at 5:30pm
 
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Solution: guaranteed above poverty employment for all, then democracy is largely obsolete (except for minor issues)...

....carry on.... 



That sounds like slavery or serfdom.
Or what the Soviers had, 'full employment' - no unemployment benefit plus strong anti parasite laws, including jail and forced labour.

In all these cases responsibility for individual was assumed by the slave owner, the landlord or the state.
Which model is your preferred one?


Imagine if Australia also abolished the dole and introduced anti-parasite laws against people out of work for more than 4 weeks.

https://nintil.com/the-soviet-union-achieving-full-employment/
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