Australian Politics Forum - Should We Ditch Daylight Saving?

Redmond Neck Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 22154 ACT Gender:	Re: Should We Ditch Daylight Saving? Reply #15 - Oct 1^st, 2022 at 8:55am I would like it to be shorter, start one month later and finish one month earlier!
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Re: Should We Ditch Daylight Saving?
Reply #16 - Oct 1^st, 2022 at 12:19pm

John Smith wrote on Oct 1^st, 2022 at 7:57am:

If a few snowflakes struggle with their clock taking a few days to adjust to daylight savings, imagine how much they'd struggle if they ever had kids. Cheesy

The cows still show up for milking at 3 am - but then it's 4 am ..... confusing - bleaches the white on their hides and fades the black and tan...

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Reply #17 - Oct 1^st, 2022 at 12:28pm

Setanta wrote on Sep 30^th, 2022 at 8:54pm:

It does affect people. I don't like it because it annoys me from a few days to a week to adjust on the uptake but the end is not as noticeable, my wife on the other hand with her biological clock is up at the same time, all the time. It pisses her off. I personally see no need for it. The sun going down at 9pm was a problem when we had kids. We still have 'em but you know what I mean.

I sort of agree with everything you say. To me the one big thing in support of DLS is that children still exist and they love the extra light. I know that when it first started an extra hour or two at the beach in the afternoon was magic. Through the middle of summer having light too late is an issue.

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Johnnie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 12485 Gender:	Re: Should We Ditch Daylight Saving? Reply #18 - Oct 1^st, 2022 at 4:27pm Just when gets nice to have an hour of daylight before heading off to the foundry its back to getting up in the dark and heading off in the dark when i should be fast asleep, its alright for the office workers, they are the ones making the rules without even giving anyone a say and my chooks don't like it either
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Reply #19 - Oct 1^st, 2022 at 4:30pm

Johnnie wrote on Oct 1^st, 2022 at 4:27pm:

Just when gets nice to have an hour of daylight before heading off to the foundry its back to getting up in the dark and heading off in the dark when i should be fast asleep, its alright for the office workers, they are the ones making the rules without even giving anyone a say and my chooks don't like it either

Your chooks have no clue what time it is LOL

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Reply #20 - Oct 1^st, 2022 at 5:03pm

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Oct 1^st, 2022 at 4:30pm:

Johnnie wrote on Oct 1^st, 2022 at 4:27pm:

Just when gets nice to have an hour of daylight before heading off to the foundry its back to getting up in the dark and heading off in the dark when i should be fast asleep, its alright for the office workers, they are the ones making the rules without even giving anyone a say and my chooks don't like it either

Your chooks have no clue what time it is LOL

They probably have more of a clue than you Lefty.

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Reply #21 - Oct 1^st, 2022 at 5:10pm

Johnnie wrote on Oct 1^st, 2022 at 5:03pm:

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Oct 1^st, 2022 at 4:30pm:

Johnnie wrote on Oct 1^st, 2022 at 4:27pm:

Just when gets nice to have an hour of daylight before heading off to the foundry its back to getting up in the dark and heading off in the dark when i should be fast asleep, its alright for the office workers, they are the ones making the rules without even giving anyone a say and my chooks don't like it either

Your chooks have no clue what time it is LOL

They probably have more of a clue than you Lefty.

Chooks can't tell time LOL

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UnSubRocky Gold Member Offline Crocodile Hunter: Origins Posts: 25082 Rockhampton Gender:	Re: Should We Ditch Daylight Saving? Reply #22 - Oct 1^st, 2022 at 5:11pm Gordon wrote on Sep 30^th, 2022 at 5:07pm: LoL all the old retired people here worrying their cows are fading and curtains not giving milk. All the city people worrying that they have to go inside when the sun goes down.
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Reply #23 - Oct 1^st, 2022 at 5:57pm

whiteknight wrote on Sep 30^th, 2022 at 5:05pm:

Some say keep daylight saving others say get rid of it. What do you think?. I say get rid of it. Sad

I have forever loathed it and wished it would be ditched!
It just ended in April and now it’s started up again!
I wonder though… if it would be better to have DLS in winter instead?

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Reply #24 - Oct 1^st, 2022 at 6:17pm

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Oct 1^st, 2022 at 5:10pm:

Johnnie wrote on Oct 1^st, 2022 at 5:03pm:

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Oct 1^st, 2022 at 4:30pm:

Johnnie wrote on Oct 1^st, 2022 at 4:27pm:

Just when gets nice to have an hour of daylight before heading off to the foundry its back to getting up in the dark and heading off in the dark when i should be fast asleep, its alright for the office workers, they are the ones making the rules without even giving anyone a say and my chooks don't like it either

Your chooks have no clue what time it is LOL

They probably have more of a clue than you Lefty.

Chooks can't tell time LOL

It's difficult for them to adjust the gardens sun dial.

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Reply #25 - Oct 1^st, 2022 at 6:26pm

Johnnie wrote on Oct 1^st, 2022 at 4:27pm:

Just when gets nice to have an hour of daylight before heading off to the foundry its back to getting up in the dark and heading off in the dark when i should be fast asleep, its alright for the office workers, they are the ones making the rules without even giving anyone a say and my chooks don't like it either

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Just when gets nice to have an hour of daylight before heading off to the foundry its back to getting up in the dark

Exactly but for me it wasn't the foundry. Still just as the mornings are light for a week or two you get the miserable experience or getting up in the dark again.

I also found it expensive - getting dressed in the dark to be on the train platform 20 minutes drive away by 5:20 am I lost count of the number of times when it got light I realised that I had a tie that didn't match the shirt - not even close. The girls at the tie shop had a good laugh more than once. I turned up in some hideous combinations.

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Reply #26 - Oct 1^st, 2022 at 8:03pm

Dnarever wrote on Oct 1^st, 2022 at 12:28pm:

Setanta wrote on Sep 30^th, 2022 at 8:54pm:

It does affect people. I don't like it because it annoys me from a few days to a week to adjust on the uptake but the end is not as noticeable, my wife on the other hand with her biological clock is up at the same time, all the time. It pisses her off. I personally see no need for it. The sun going down at 9pm was a problem when we had kids. We still have 'em but you know what I mean.

I sort of agree with everything you say. To me the one big thing in support of DLS is that children still exist and they love the extra light. I know that when it first started an extra hour or two at the beach in the afternoon was magic. Through the middle of summer having light too late is an issue.

In my view we should go the other way, rather than move the clock forward, it should be moved back an hour for summer. Wink

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Reply #27 - Oct 1^st, 2022 at 8:16pm

Setanta wrote on Oct 1^st, 2022 at 8:03pm:

Dnarever wrote on Oct 1^st, 2022 at 12:28pm:

Setanta wrote on Sep 30^th, 2022 at 8:54pm:

It does affect people. I don't like it because it annoys me from a few days to a week to adjust on the uptake but the end is not as noticeable, my wife on the other hand with her biological clock is up at the same time, all the time. It pisses her off. I personally see no need for it. The sun going down at 9pm was a problem when we had kids. We still have 'em but you know what I mean.

I sort of agree with everything you say. To me the one big thing in support of DLS is that children still exist and they love the extra light. I know that when it first started an extra hour or two at the beach in the afternoon was magic. Through the middle of summer having light too late is an issue.

In my view we should go the other way, rather than move the clock forward, it should be moved back an hour for summer. Wink

You could end up with kids coming home from school in the dark ?

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Reply #28 - Oct 1^st, 2022 at 8:20pm

Dnarever wrote on Oct 1^st, 2022 at 8:16pm:

Setanta wrote on Oct 1^st, 2022 at 8:03pm:

Dnarever wrote on Oct 1^st, 2022 at 12:28pm:

Setanta wrote on Sep 30^th, 2022 at 8:54pm:

It does affect people. I don't like it because it annoys me from a few days to a week to adjust on the uptake but the end is not as noticeable, my wife on the other hand with her biological clock is up at the same time, all the time. It pisses her off. I personally see no need for it. The sun going down at 9pm was a problem when we had kids. We still have 'em but you know what I mean.

I sort of agree with everything you say. To me the one big thing in support of DLS is that children still exist and they love the extra light. I know that when it first started an extra hour or two at the beach in the afternoon was magic. Through the middle of summer having light too late is an issue.

In my view we should go the other way, rather than move the clock forward, it should be moved back an hour for summer. Wink

You could end up with kids coming home from school in the dark ?

For summer? Nah. They get to think they sleep in and get home and have dinner at what seems like a reasonable hour.

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Reply #29 - Oct 1^st, 2022 at 9:35pm

John Smith wrote on Sep 30^th, 2022 at 7:39pm:

if you sleep from 10pm to 7am, how does changing to daylight savings result in less sleep?
the article is a load of crap

Nope, I disagree.

I suffer from a circadian rhythm disorder, or N-24 or a "rolling sleep pattern".

Which means I might (for example) go to bed at 9AM tomorrow, but on the same
day (Saturday) next week, I could be going to bed at 9PM for example. I have
a circadian rhythm of around 28 hours, which means my sleep-wake cycle can
shift by a day or so every week... or maybe not, necessarily.

So from a sleep loss or gain caused by daylight saving, I'm totally unaffected.
I also never suffered from jet lag back in the day, with international air travel
crossing time zones.

I've done a truckload of sleep cycle/circadian rhythm research over the past
decade or so, and I can concur with the findings in the referenced article.

Nevertheless, I still strongly dislike daylight saving for its disruption to the wider
society, and believe it serves no practical purpose.

Why daylight saving time could be bad for you.

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Originally introduced to save fuel in the two world wars, daylight saving
time made a comeback in the 1970s and is now mostly seen as a lifestyle
enhancement. But advances in medical research offer new evidence that
daylight saving time could be harmful—and governments overseas are
taking note.

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