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Reply #330 - Sep 28th, 2022 at 12:39pm
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 28th, 2022 at 10:26am:
Anyway - those murderers of women and children will not be listed in the war memorial.

What kind of stupid idea is that?


Someone tell Grappy about all our WWI memorials.....
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Reply #331 - Sep 28th, 2022 at 1:58pm
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Sep 28th, 2022 at 12:39pm:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 28th, 2022 at 10:26am:
Anyway - those murderers of women and children will not be listed in the war memorial.

What kind of stupid idea is that?


Someone tell Grappy about all our WWI memorials.....



We have Aboriginal murderers on all those?  Arcturi Prime... Arcturi Prime - are you receiving?   *shhhhhhhhhhh*

You are getting sillier and sillier as you run out of ammo, son... only actual Aboriginal Veterans share on those memorials... not this kind ..... they didn't go to war for this country - they went to war
AGAINST it... they can't be represented in the White Man's Memorial that they tried to genocide out long ago....

Silliest thing I ever heard... the kind of nonsense you'd expect from the 'left' here these days.... with all their vivid imagination.........
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Reply #332 - Sep 28th, 2022 at 2:00pm
 
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Reply #333 - Sep 28th, 2022 at 2:54pm
 
Anzac was 20th century full scale war - not 18th and 19th brush war - nothing whatsoever to do with frontier wars.

You can bet a sheila wrote this one!

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Reply #334 - Sep 28th, 2022 at 2:59pm
 
LOL!!!!

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Reply #335 - Sep 28th, 2022 at 3:14pm
 
Lefty out of ammo...

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Reply #336 - Sep 28th, 2022 at 3:15pm
 
Grappler isn't grasping that I am ignoring him and laughing at him, is he?
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Reply #337 - Sep 28th, 2022 at 3:49pm
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Sep 28th, 2022 at 3:15pm:
Grappler isn't grasping that I am ignoring him and laughing at him, is he?



We can see that.... Roy Rogers' horse...

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Reply #338 - Sep 28th, 2022 at 4:49pm
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 28th, 2022 at 12:36pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Sep 28th, 2022 at 11:57am:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 27th, 2022 at 7:22pm:
No mention of the murdered White women and children and White men.... just another one way street.... racism writ large, so stuff 'em!  You don't recognise murderers in the War Memorial - the Black Anzacs are already there.


Well, that's what war is, with one side justifying the murder of the other side.   

What happened 200 years ago is one thing, but the fact that war between groups and nations is STILL legal is another thing altogether, in the age of MAD; and you are complicit in the insanity.

Insanity...got it? 

In fact, the UN is close to falling apart because of this insanity which demands the legality of war as a means of dispute settlement between groups and nations be maintained.

Once groups or nations are involved in war, you know insanity has taken over, because no group or nation is composed of all good or all bad individuals. 

That's why rule of law at the international level - to outlaw war between groups or nations - is required.



These were franc tireurs - not formal combatants on behalf of a nation... and terrorists striking at women and children ...


There you go, justifying the murders carried out by one group against another group - whether black on black, black on white (for being invaded),  white on black (in retaliation - or being threatened by spears), or white on white.

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No reason to discuss the insanity of those persons with me...... I'm way ahead of you ....


Read the above, and consider your stance......
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Reply #339 - Sep 28th, 2022 at 9:28pm
 
Not justifying anything - just analysing events and commenting on facts.

As Jordan Peterson said - discussing and analysing something doesn't mean you approve or disapprove of it... it's discussion and analysis....

You see - that's what marks the very real difference between the true intellectual and the dilettante... the simple ability to discuss without taking sides.....

Analysing something and coming up with a different conclusion to the one some here are pushing means they will start to call you names and try to belittle you and your position, rather than discussing the issue itself.

It's a form of immaturity....

The Cheeses killed, in historical reports, women and children alone at farms.  They copped it in return, though the women and children were spared when possible by the Settlers/Soldiers.  All the verbal histories are coming from women primarily in this program - they all discuss how their great whatever-grandma survived to be placed in civilisation.

In passing - all of those Tasmanian Cheeses tonight (I missed the whole program), were whiter than I am and unrecognisable as Cheeses without their saying so.
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Reply #340 - Sep 28th, 2022 at 9:36pm
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 28th, 2022 at 9:28pm:
As Jordan Peterson said - discussing and analysing something doesn't mean you approve or disapprove of it... it's discussion and analysis....


crappler by name, crap by nature

You're not discussing and analyzing anything, You're arguing for your already formed opinion. All you do is reject out of hand anything contrary to your position and when called on it you play the 'i'm just discussing it' card ....


You and Jordan should learn the difference
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Reply #341 - Sep 28th, 2022 at 9:58pm
 
John Smith wrote on Sep 28th, 2022 at 9:36pm:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 28th, 2022 at 9:28pm:
As Jordan Peterson said - discussing and analysing something doesn't mean you approve or disapprove of it... it's discussion and analysis....


crappler by name, crap by nature

You're not discussing and analyzing anything, You're arguing for your already formed opinion. All you do is reject out of hand anything contrary to your position and when called on it you play the 'i'm just discussing it' card ....


You and Jordan should learn the difference



Nice joke..... thanks for coming...  Wink

I have no dog in the tranny stakes..... but when I see flaws in its nonsense... well, you know....

As for the Cheeses - silly idea to include them in a war memorial.... the Tasso RSL might have an idea - a separate memorial.... but frankly ... 29 survivors?  What happened to Trugannini being the last in 1842?  And How did 29 translate into a current 4% of the population down there?  Well - by massive interbreeding to the near-extinction of the Indigenous genes..... I'm darker than all of them .... why aren't all those White people down there proud of their White heritage and march for that?

Bonus question:-  Did Tasmania have a separate Invasion day or is this just part of the fairy tale? 

I may defend my position once I work it through - but I do it very well.... and generally without vile comments on others, apart from the occasional few who thoroughly deserve it in return.  Bit like Appin, eh?  The Cheeses kill at least sixteen White people including defenceless women and children BEFORE the Appin Massacre, where the children and women were spared where possible..... and nobody carries on about the White people killed.... only the fourteen Cheeses at Appin who were in arms.

Most would say:-  Far Chem!
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Reply #342 - Sep 29th, 2022 at 8:41am
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 28th, 2022 at 9:28pm:
Not justifying anything - just analysing events and commenting on facts.


You are justifying the murder of blacks who murdered whites for intruding into their lands.

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As Jordan Peterson said - discussing and analysing something doesn't mean you approve or disapprove of it... it's discussion and analysis....


Peterson is a 'personal resonsibility' Randian who doesn't understand the complexities of interpersonal relationships between individuals and individuals in groups and nations. (Rand's  'rational mind' thesis is rendered irrational by instinct). 

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You see - that's what marks the very real difference between the true intellectual and the dilettante... the simple ability to discuss without taking sides.....


Your partisanship in the 'black wars' is all too evident. 

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Analysing something and coming up with a different conclusion to the one some here are pushing means they will start to call you names and try to belittle you and your position, rather than discussing the issue itself.


No doubt

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It's a form of immaturity....


Rand and Peterson aren't immature, just committed to irrational analysis re the 'rational' mind.

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The Cheeses killed, in historical reports, women and children alone at farms.


No doubt - it's territorial instinct....and the unarmed  are 'fair game'......

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They copped it in return, though the women and children were spared when possible by the Settlers/Soldiers. 


Partisan comment; black women and children were also massacred in the 'black wars'.

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All the verbal histories are coming from women primarily in this program - they all discuss how their great whatever-grandma survived to be placed in civilisation.


Yes, they were and still are traumatized by the enforced loss of culture, in  the transition to the modern world.

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In passing - all of those Tasmanian Cheeses tonight (I missed the whole program), were whiter than I am and unrecognisable as Cheeses without their saying so.


Yes, white people calling themselves black is irrational, despite their justifications for affirming their "blackness".


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Reply #343 - Sep 29th, 2022 at 12:52pm
 
Not at all - I'm stating the realities.  I remain impartial, though disturbed at the wanton murder of innocents, and will admit that actually looking at the events has diminished my sympathy for the Aborigines, who are touted as innocents set upon for no reason and murdered to clear them off.  that's the line that's been handed around for years now and without looking into it, I would never have thought differently - though clearly some still swallow that whole without a single thought of their own.

Clearly they were nothing of the sort.....

I have no dog in the frontier wars that took place, long, long ago, and have zero bearing on modern day Australia.... I merely stand back and look impartially at it and see the flaws in the propaganda.

I didn't notice any of those Tasmanian 'Aborigines' rejecting the culture they now live in with all its benefits... and with the clear women shortage down there, it is doubtful that many of the men would have been breeding with white women, but certain that many of the women would be breeding with white men - so their gene pool would by now be very thin.

Only in recent years has it become trendy to identify as Aboriginal - there must be benefits in that, since nobody in his or her right mind would willingly do so if that group was as oppressed as the claims make out.  Some of my teenage friends were significantly Aboriginal - my brother married one of them - and it made not one whit of difference at that time, including in their ability to find work and study at uni etc - one's wife is a professor now, and her family are significantly Aboriginal as well.

Oh - and for those of you who speak scornfully of the 'civilised' tribes living in Whiteyland (never having been 'cleared out') in the 1800's - they now own Goat Island...  there are benefits in the White Man's Way.... and much sympathy for those who know how to look for it.

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Reply #344 - Sep 29th, 2022 at 12:56pm
 
Culture Is Life - so now we are looking at the concept that all cultures are equal but that some are more equal than others?  If you belong to a trendy group your culture is divine and must be protected and rebuilt at all costs, even at the expense of all other cultures around you, and most specifically, the very one that nurtures you and your culture?

Social Science taken to a new level of insanity.
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