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Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 87897 Always was always will be HOME Gender:	Re: The Australian Wars - Culture is Life Reply #255 - Sep 26^th, 2022 at 4:04pm FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Sep 26^th, 2022 at 3:59pm: laugh react Ammo locker empty, eh? Getting hysterical? Why not go the Ad Generationem again? Silly old Import Eickhardt just tried that one.... lost like a Cheese at Appin....
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Reply #257 - Sep 26^th, 2022 at 4:14pm

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Sep 26^th, 2022 at 4:07pm:

*laugh react*

Is that all you have to say about the dead Cheeses at Appin and the white women and children they killed before that?

Sick boy ...

Next ep is Tasmania... that should be a beauty....... eradicated in 1842 and now a higher percentage of Aboriginal claimants than the mainland... greater comeback than Cassius Clay....

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Reply #260 - Sep 26^th, 2022 at 4:37pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 25^th, 2022 at 7:56pm:

Reprise - takes another bow:-

Well - I guess they didn't learn their lesson at Appin all those years ago after running around and murdering more than sixteen Whites, including women and children, in their ethnic cleansing/genocide against Whites ... and when Whartey cunningly snuck up on them and caught them napping while in hiding and took down fourteen armed combatants in a melee in the dark with a few not so innocent bystanders included.

When you run with the wild dogs killing sheep - you die with the wild dogs....

Now they run around murdering society by proxy while feeding off it .... and nobody mounts an operation against them... instead all the spiritually, morally and cerebrally blind, mentally lame and halt, and drug-addled on New City Hall Righteousness (NCHR) actually change history to make it into something it never was.

They stand at the gates (gatekeepers), lumping people (as the generationophobes do) into neat little boxes in their own minds, like Dr Mengele - and determine on a purely arbitrary basis which facts and reports and histories will be sent to work for the cause and which will go to the Social Scientist gas chambers...

Blacks raping and murdering women and children - GOOD! Whites killing combatants and taking children into protection - BAD!

Seriously - this country has become very, very sick.

Much of the world is in trouble, as Guterres said (to which your reply was: zzzzzzzzzzzz, - an indication of your grasp of reality.

Now, the reason why people want to rewrite black history in Oz is to provide an explaination of why the egregious and disgraceful gap exists.

But like I said, the survival and transition of an illiterate hunter-gatherer society which possessed no technology at all (apart from animal skins for clothing in cold regions?) is an extremely complex task.

You were on course with your previous post: assisted training to enter the modern world's economy.

To be sure, if you want to measure the cost of this training in dollars, and force the government to tax and borrow the money from the private sector, the project loses its appeal.....

But Oz has all the resources it needs to train 100K or more blacks to enter the modern economy.

However, since everyone's fooled by the current central bank arrangements, that task won't be achieved.

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Reply #261 - Sep 26^th, 2022 at 4:39pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Sep 26^th, 2022 at 4:37pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 25^th, 2022 at 7:56pm:

Reprise - takes another bow:-

Well - I guess they didn't learn their lesson at Appin all those years ago after running around and murdering more than sixteen Whites, including women and children, in their ethnic cleansing/genocide against Whites ... and when Whartey cunningly snuck up on them and caught them napping while in hiding and took down fourteen armed combatants in a melee in the dark with a few not so innocent bystanders included.

When you run with the wild dogs killing sheep - you die with the wild dogs....

Now they run around murdering society by proxy while feeding off it .... and nobody mounts an operation against them... instead all the spiritually, morally and cerebrally blind, mentally lame and halt, and drug-addled on New City Hall Righteousness (NCHR) actually change history to make it into something it never was.

They stand at the gates (gatekeepers), lumping people (as the generationophobes do) into neat little boxes in their own minds, like Dr Mengele - and determine on a purely arbitrary basis which facts and reports and histories will be sent to work for the cause and which will go to the Social Scientist gas chambers...

Blacks raping and murdering women and children - GOOD! Whites killing combatants and taking children into protection - BAD!

Seriously - this country has become very, very sick.

Much of the world is in trouble, as Guterres said (to which your reply was: zzzzzzzzzzzz, - an indication of your grasp of reality.

Now, the reason why people want to rewrite black history in Oz is to provide an explaination of why the egregious and disgraceful gap exists.

But like I said, the survival and transition of an illiterate hunter-gatherer society which possessed no technology at all (apart from animal skins for clothing in cold regions?) is an extremely complex task.

You were on course with your previous post: assisted training to enter the modern world's economy.

To be sure, if you want to measure the cost of this training in dollars, and force the government to tax or borrow the money, the project loses its appeal.....

But Oz has all the resources it needs to train 100K or more blacks to enter the modern economy.

However, since everyone's fooled by the current central bank arrangements, that task won't be achieved.

First Australians had a lot more technology than that but yes, they were ripped from their way of life into one they did not know

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Reply #262 - Sep 26^th, 2022 at 4:47pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 26^th, 2022 at 12:43pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 26^th, 2022 at 12:17pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 26^th, 2022 at 11:41am:

Frank wrote on Sep 26^th, 2022 at 11:35am:

There needs to be a degree of verisimilitude to make a tale, a parable, illustrative and its meaning believable. You wouldn't cast two rabbits when staging the he story of the hare and the tortoise. Or Boris Johnson to play Bazza O'Bama. It would be a jarring, unbelievable distraction.

Verisimilitude, eh! So you're sold on the witches and their prophecies, then. Would they have to be Scottish women, or could you live with them looking more like dishevelled androgynous Romanies ?

You are grasping at straws only you can see.

There were no African nobles and kings in medieval Scotland just as there were no fair of hair and red of face Zulu kings. And if Billy Connoly had been cast as a Zuli king circa 1234 AD you would have seen it as the joke it would have been.

Well, Macbeth, like so much of Shakespeare, dramatises universal themes of the human condition - betrayal, guilt, remorse, retribution, vengeance. It is not faithful to historical fact.

That is why Shakespeare speaks to all ethnicities. Were Macbeth to be played in India, Japan or Nigeria tomorrow, the actors' skin colour would be irrelevant.

Disney Chooses Bald Actress To Play Rapunzel In Live-Action Remake

U.S. — Disney has chosen a bald actress to play Rapunzel in the upcoming live-action remake of Tangled. Director Guy Ritchie announced the casting at a press conference alongside Disney CEO Bob Chapek.

"We are thrilled to have this mega-talented bald actress joining us to star in this film," said Ritchie. "She has long been an outspoken advocate for the alopecia community and we know she'll lend her unique lived experience as a person of baldness to the iconic role of Rapunzel."

Several fans were upset with the casting, pointing out that the actress is bald, while Rapunzel has hair. "I'm all for diversity," said Disney fan Janet Cutler. "My pronouns are Xe / Xer. But this is a bit too far. Rapunzel is supposed to have hair. It's sort of core to the entire story."

Another Disney fan echoed the sentiment. "Rapunzel, Rapunzel, let down your hair," said Disney fan Andrew Steeplechase. "That's one of the key quotes in the story. I'm not sure that works as well with a bald Rapunzel."

Historians and experts pushed back against the desire for a haired Rapunzel. "Demanding that Disney cast Rapunzel — a fictional character I might add — with an actor who has hair, is simply ableist, sexist, racist, and several other -ists," said Sandra Rice, the chair of Harvard's Folklore and Mythology department. "Sadly, this is another example of the white cis-hetero patriarchal system that we live in."
Rice then began to sob.

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Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 87897 Always was always will be HOME Gender:	Re: The Australian Wars - Culture is Life Reply #263 - Sep 26^th, 2022 at 4:52pm Rapunzel... Rapunzel!!!! Let down your hair!!! ............ so she threw her pet rabbit from the top of the tower....................then slowly died of starvation ..................
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Reply #264 - Sep 26^th, 2022 at 5:02pm

Frank wrote on Sep 26^th, 2022 at 4:47pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 26^th, 2022 at 12:43pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 26^th, 2022 at 12:17pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 26^th, 2022 at 11:41am:

Frank wrote on Sep 26^th, 2022 at 11:35am:

There needs to be a degree of verisimilitude to make a tale, a parable, illustrative and its meaning believable. You wouldn't cast two rabbits when staging the he story of the hare and the tortoise. Or Boris Johnson to play Bazza O'Bama. It would be a jarring, unbelievable distraction.

Verisimilitude, eh! So you're sold on the witches and their prophecies, then. Would they have to be Scottish women, or could you live with them looking more like dishevelled androgynous Romanies ?

You are grasping at straws only you can see.

There were no African nobles and kings in medieval Scotland just as there were no fair of hair and red of face Zulu kings. And if Billy Connoly had been cast as a Zuli king circa 1234 AD you would have seen it as the joke it would have been.

Well, Macbeth, like so much of Shakespeare, dramatises universal themes of the human condition - betrayal, guilt, remorse, retribution, vengeance. It is not faithful to historical fact.

That is why Shakespeare speaks to all ethnicities. Were Macbeth to be played in India, Japan or Nigeria tomorrow, the actors' skin colour would be irrelevant.

Disney Chooses Bald Actress To Play Rapunzel In Live-Action Remake

U.S. — Disney has chosen a bald actress to play Rapunzel in the upcoming live-action remake of Tangled. Director Guy Ritchie announced the casting at a press conference alongside Disney CEO Bob Chapek.

"We are thrilled to have this mega-talented bald actress joining us to star in this film," said Ritchie. "She has long been an outspoken advocate for the alopecia community and we know she'll lend her unique lived experience as a person of baldness to the iconic role of Rapunzel."

Several fans were upset with the casting, pointing out that the actress is bald, while Rapunzel has hair. "I'm all for diversity," said Disney fan Janet Cutler. "My pronouns are Xe / Xer. But this is a bit too far. Rapunzel is supposed to have hair. It's sort of core to the entire story."

Another Disney fan echoed the sentiment. "Rapunzel, Rapunzel, let down your hair," said Disney fan Andrew Steeplechase. "That's one of the key quotes in the story. I'm not sure that works as well with a bald Rapunzel."

Historians and experts pushed back against the desire for a haired Rapunzel. "Demanding that Disney cast Rapunzel — a fictional character I might add — with an actor who has hair, is simply ableist, sexist, racist, and several other -ists," said Sandra Rice, the chair of Harvard's Folklore and Mythology department. "Sadly, this is another example of the white cis-hetero patriarchal system that we live in."
Rice then began to sob.

Keep crying about a mermaid, you useless child

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Reply #265 - Sep 26^th, 2022 at 5:13pm

Frank wrote on Sep 26^th, 2022 at 3:38pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 26^th, 2022 at 12:43pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 26^th, 2022 at 12:17pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 26^th, 2022 at 11:41am:

Frank wrote on Sep 26^th, 2022 at 11:35am:

There needs to be a degree of verisimilitude to make a tale, a parable, illustrative and its meaning believable. You wouldn't cast two rabbits when staging the he story of the hare and the tortoise. Or Boris Johnson to play Bazza O'Bama. It would be a jarring, unbelievable distraction.

Verisimilitude, eh! So you're sold on the witches and their prophecies, then. Would they have to be Scottish women, or could you live with them looking more like dishevelled androgynous Romanies ?

You are grasping at straws only you can see.

There were no African nobles and kings in medieval Scotland just as there were no fair of hair and red of face Zulu kings. And if Billy Connoly had been cast as a Zuli king circa 1234 AD you would have seen it as the joke it would have been.

Well, Macbeth, like so much of Shakespeare, dramatises universal themes of the human condition - betrayal, guilt, remorse, retribution, vengeance. It is not faithful to historical fact.

That is why Shakespeare speaks to all ethnicities. Were Macbeth to be played in India, Japan or Nigeria tomorrow, the actors' skin colour would be irrelevant.

An all-Japanese or Indian or Nigerian cast in Tokyo, Delhi of Lagos is obviously different to having a token Japanese etc in a staging in the original Shakespearean English where the the token guys adds nothing but jarring distraction preening as diversity and inclusion.

In Shakespeare's time, female roles in his plays were acted by men.

Were his contemporary audiences jarred and distracted from his plays and their themes by that, I wonder.

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Reply #266 - Sep 26^th, 2022 at 5:26pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 26^th, 2022 at 5:13pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 26^th, 2022 at 3:38pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 26^th, 2022 at 12:43pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 26^th, 2022 at 12:17pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 26^th, 2022 at 11:41am:

Frank wrote on Sep 26^th, 2022 at 11:35am:

There needs to be a degree of verisimilitude to make a tale, a parable, illustrative and its meaning believable. You wouldn't cast two rabbits when staging the he story of the hare and the tortoise. Or Boris Johnson to play Bazza O'Bama. It would be a jarring, unbelievable distraction.

Verisimilitude, eh! So you're sold on the witches and their prophecies, then. Would they have to be Scottish women, or could you live with them looking more like dishevelled androgynous Romanies ?

You are grasping at straws only you can see.

There were no African nobles and kings in medieval Scotland just as there were no fair of hair and red of face Zulu kings. And if Billy Connoly had been cast as a Zuli king circa 1234 AD you would have seen it as the joke it would have been.

Well, Macbeth, like so much of Shakespeare, dramatises universal themes of the human condition - betrayal, guilt, remorse, retribution, vengeance. It is not faithful to historical fact.

That is why Shakespeare speaks to all ethnicities. Were Macbeth to be played in India, Japan or Nigeria tomorrow, the actors' skin colour would be irrelevant.

An all-Japanese or Indian or Nigerian cast in Tokyo, Delhi of Lagos is obviously different to having a token Japanese etc in a staging in the original Shakespearean English where the the token guys adds nothing but jarring distraction preening as diversity and inclusion.

In Shakespeare's time, female roles in his plays were acted by men.

Were his contemporary audiences jarred and distracted from his plays and their themes by that, I wonder.

So? Women were considered too precious to be (gasps) actors ..... what is your point?

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Reply #267 - Sep 26^th, 2022 at 5:47pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 26^th, 2022 at 5:26pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 26^th, 2022 at 5:13pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 26^th, 2022 at 3:38pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 26^th, 2022 at 12:43pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 26^th, 2022 at 12:17pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 26^th, 2022 at 11:41am:

Frank wrote on Sep 26^th, 2022 at 11:35am:

There needs to be a degree of verisimilitude to make a tale, a parable, illustrative and its meaning believable. You wouldn't cast two rabbits when staging the he story of the hare and the tortoise. Or Boris Johnson to play Bazza O'Bama. It would be a jarring, unbelievable distraction.

Verisimilitude, eh! So you're sold on the witches and their prophecies, then. Would they have to be Scottish women, or could you live with them looking more like dishevelled androgynous Romanies ?

You are grasping at straws only you can see.

There were no African nobles and kings in medieval Scotland just as there were no fair of hair and red of face Zulu kings. And if Billy Connoly had been cast as a Zuli king circa 1234 AD you would have seen it as the joke it would have been.

Well, Macbeth, like so much of Shakespeare, dramatises universal themes of the human condition - betrayal, guilt, remorse, retribution, vengeance. It is not faithful to historical fact.

That is why Shakespeare speaks to all ethnicities. Were Macbeth to be played in India, Japan or Nigeria tomorrow, the actors' skin colour would be irrelevant.

An all-Japanese or Indian or Nigerian cast in Tokyo, Delhi of Lagos is obviously different to having a token Japanese etc in a staging in the original Shakespearean English where the the token guys adds nothing but jarring distraction preening as diversity and inclusion.

In Shakespeare's time, female roles in his plays were acted by men.

Were his contemporary audiences jarred and distracted from his plays and their themes by that, I wonder.

So? Women were considered too precious to be (gasps) actors ..... what is your point?

Again, you're not cut out for this.

Was the historical Lady Macbeth a man, do you think?

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Reply #268 - Sep 26^th, 2022 at 7:12pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 26^th, 2022 at 5:47pm: