Australian Politics Forum - Time for a republic.

Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: Time for a republic. Reply #225 - Sep 14^th, 2022 at 10:44am Flip
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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: Time for a republic. Reply #226 - Sep 14^th, 2022 at 10:44am Flip
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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: Time for a republic. Reply #227 - Sep 14^th, 2022 at 10:45am Flip
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Reply #228 - Sep 14^th, 2022 at 10:47am

Frank wrote on Sep 14^th, 2022 at 10:41am:

'Updating' to a republic to 'go with the times' is like corporate re-branding. Unworthy of a confident, mature country.

Particularly in the sloppy and overtly half-arsed nationalistic way an Australian republic is currently proposed - an uncooked, crude amalgam of a ceremonial HOS and an executive HOS.

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Reply #229 - Sep 14^th, 2022 at 10:50am

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 14^th, 2022 at 10:43am:

chimera wrote on Sep 14^th, 2022 at 7:20am:

We don't get a car licence on our merits of community service and football skills. It's a system where anyone can be licensed according to set rules (but can't drive if they fail the rules). Corruption is possible but rare.

The Constitution has a smart system where the GG is out of politics, well paid and shuts up. Same with UK, it's worked since being developed since the 1600s.

Now you know why we're all asking these 2 questions:

1. Do we need a GG?

2. Do we need a Head of State?

Because the State and the Government are two different things.

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Reply #230 - Sep 14^th, 2022 at 10:50am

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'Updating' to a republic to 'go with the times' is like corporate re-branding. Unworthy of a confident, mature country.
Today is made of yesterday, every country IS its history. Restarting history is folly. Australia is a constitutional monarchy.

Frank every country is its history AND present. Together these function symbiotically and synergistically to propel a country into the future.

I feel that you're treating this issue like a type of divorce. It's not.

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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: Time for a republic. Reply #231 - Sep 14^th, 2022 at 10:51am Flip
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Re: Time for a republic.
Reply #232 - Sep 14^th, 2022 at 10:52am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 14^th, 2022 at 10:47am:

Frank wrote on Sep 14^th, 2022 at 10:41am:

'Updating' to a republic to 'go with the times' is like corporate re-branding. Unworthy of a confident, mature country.

Particularly in the sloppy and overtly half-arsed nationalistic way an Australian republic is currently proposed - an uncooked, crude amalgam of a ceremonial HOS and an executive HOS.

Oh really? Who told you that Meister?

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Re: Time for a republic.
Reply #233 - Sep 14^th, 2022 at 10:52am

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 14^th, 2022 at 10:50am:

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'Updating' to a republic to 'go with the times' is like corporate re-branding. Unworthy of a confident, mature country.
Today is made of yesterday, every country IS its history. Restarting history is folly. Australia is a constitutional monarchy.

Frank every country is its history AND present. Together these function symbiotically and synergistically to propel a country into the future.

I feel that you're treating this issue like a type of divorce. It's not.

Can you name a country that does not distinguish between HOG and HOS?

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Re: Time for a republic.
Reply #234 - Sep 14^th, 2022 at 10:53am

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 14^th, 2022 at 10:52am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 14^th, 2022 at 10:47am:

Frank wrote on Sep 14^th, 2022 at 10:41am:

'Updating' to a republic to 'go with the times' is like corporate re-branding. Unworthy of a confident, mature country.

Particularly in the sloppy and overtly half-arsed nationalistic way an Australian republic is currently proposed - an uncooked, crude amalgam of a ceremonial HOS and an executive HOS.

Oh really? Who told you that Meister?

I read the ARM proposal.

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Reply #235 - Sep 14^th, 2022 at 10:55am

Frank wrote on Sep 14^th, 2022 at 10:50am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 14^th, 2022 at 10:43am:

chimera wrote on Sep 14^th, 2022 at 7:20am:

We don't get a car licence on our merits of community service and football skills. It's a system where anyone can be licensed according to set rules (but can't drive if they fail the rules). Corruption is possible but rare.

The Constitution has a smart system where the GG is out of politics, well paid and shuts up. Same with UK, it's worked since being developed since the 1600s.

Now you know why we're all asking these 2 questions:

1. Do we need a GG?

2. Do we need a Head of State?

Because the State and the Government are two different things.

Yes I know.

GG - Executive
Government - Legislative
Courts - Juducial

Doctrine of Separation of Powers yadda yadda yadda.

I'm still asking the question : do we STILL need a GG at all given he gets paid to shut up?

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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: Time for a republic. Reply #236 - Sep 14^th, 2022 at 10:56am Flip
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Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 87675 Always was always will be HOME Gender:	Re: Time for a republic. Reply #237 - Sep 14^th, 2022 at 10:56am We want the President with real balls...
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Re: Time for a republic.
Reply #238 - Sep 14^th, 2022 at 10:56am

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 14^th, 2022 at 10:55am:

Frank wrote on Sep 14^th, 2022 at 10:50am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 14^th, 2022 at 10:43am:

chimera wrote on Sep 14^th, 2022 at 7:20am:

We don't get a car licence on our merits of community service and football skills. It's a system where anyone can be licensed according to set rules (but can't drive if they fail the rules). Corruption is possible but rare.

The Constitution has a smart system where the GG is out of politics, well paid and shuts up. Same with UK, it's worked since being developed since the 1600s.

Now you know why we're all asking these 2 questions:

1. Do we need a GG?

2. Do we need a Head of State?

Because the State and the Government are two different things.

Yes I know.

GG - Executive
Government - Legislative
Courts - Juducial

Doctrine of Separation of Powers yadda yadda yadda.

I'm still asking the question : do we STILL need a GG at all given he gets paid to shut up?

The HOS is required to be impartial - above the politics of the day.

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Re: Time for a republic.
Reply #239 - Sep 14^th, 2022 at 10:57am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 14^th, 2022 at 10:52am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 14^th, 2022 at 10:50am:

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'Updating' to a republic to 'go with the times' is like corporate re-branding. Unworthy of a confident, mature country.
Today is made of yesterday, every country IS its history. Restarting history is folly. Australia is a constitutional monarchy.

Frank every country is its history AND present. Together these function symbiotically and synergistically to propel a country into the future.

I feel that you're treating this issue like a type of divorce. It's not.

Can you name a country that does not distinguish between HOG and HOS?

How is that question even relevant to Australia?

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