I think we need a compelling logical case for change not a justification for not changing.

We need to see a solid workable model that people would be willing to support.

Note: what we have is one of the most reliable robust most successful systems on the planet. We are for instance far superior to the republic of the USA (just look at their current mess), We are better than any Banana republic, better than any dictatorial republic. We are at worst on par with the very best world systems. If we change why would it need to be to a republic model which have proven a real mixed bag clearly with more failure stories than successes.

We need to see some form of cost justification. What is the bang for Bucks in all this. Most of the past discussion seems to conclude that we spend a shite load of money and if we are real lucky we don't lose too much.

We need to see critical role functions, expected improvement analysis and control mechanisms.

When changing from something which is very very good the risk is that you have a lot more to lose than gain.

Bobby. wrote on Sep 13^th, 2022 at 10:12am:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 13^th, 2022 at 10:20am:

William the Conqueror said he was king of England because the old dying king mumbled something to him and the same to Harold. George Washington said he lobbed more bullets than the Poms and it's all mine..mine !

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 13^th, 2022 at 7:06am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 11^th, 2022 at 8:50pm:



So you just want a bogan to cut ribbons. And that would settle your soul and make the world right for you and bobby et al.  Not having a bogan ribbon cutter grates your sense of national pride. An Australian ribbon cutter expresses, finally and fully, who you are and puts your mind at ease with yourself as an Australian.

What is an Australian? Born here? Not born here but has passport holder after 3 year residency? Speaks no English but has an Australian passport? 4th + generation Anglo? Part Aboriginal? Italian mother, Greek father? Temporary resident for 6 years? Overseas born to one Australian parent? What?


What IS an Australian for HOS purposes?  The same people who denigrate nationalism in every other context are fervent nationalists when it come to the HOS.  The same people who identify Australians as beer swilling racists are calling for "one of us' to be HOS.


Also
How to select a HOS if hereditary monarchy is to be replaced? How do you make the choice as non-political as what you want to replace?  The biggest problem with the Americal model is that it combines the HOS and the head of government in the same person.

Dnarever wrote on Sep 13^th, 2022 at 10:22am:


I agree ducky.


Here's an Idea: we should invite Princess Mary's second born, Isabella, to be our monarch. She is Australian.