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Reply #990 - May 5th, 2024 at 2:53pm
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on May 5th, 2024 at 2:20pm:
All my posts are fair, reasoned and right on the money.....


Obviously wrong, which is why I can only rarely agree with you  (despite FD"s "shared belief" and "subjective reality" which is supposed to have us agreeing....)   

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I can't speak for your understanding of things....

Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin


Obviously.

Let's speak to the issue at hand: immigration.

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Marking note:-  You lost it at 'but' - what makes you imagine that nobody else knows all those obvious things?


Because no one is outlining  the necessary reforms of international institutions like the IMF and World Bank,  to end the global refugee crisis, resulting in "illegal" immigration.

These "illegals"  are in fact involuntary immigrants, because they would rather live at home, were it not for the failing economies back home.

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Do try to CONTRIBUTE to the field of knowledge here instead of re-hashing all the old platitudes....  (ooooOHHHWWRRR!)


How am I doin'? :   "Involuntary immigration" ....

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**coughs** fair point about stealing the trained workers..... they need them more than we do - and we can train our own....


Thanks (I hope your throat is clear now....).
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Re: Immigration
Reply #991 - May 5th, 2024 at 9:22pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on May 5th, 2024 at 2:53pm:
Because no one is outlining  the necessary reforms of international institutions like the IMF and World Bank,  to end the global refugee crisis, resulting in "illegal" immigration.

These "illegals"  are in fact involuntary immigrants, because they would rather live at home, were it not for the failing economies back home.



Stupid nonsense.


Shithole countries are MADE shiteholes by their people who the flee them to the West from themselves only to recreate the shiteholes they have fled as Chinese, Muslim, Indian, Vietnamese, African ghetoes.

And then local whites flee those efnik ghettos. White flight.


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Re: Immigration
Reply #992 - May 6th, 2024 at 1:37pm
 
Frank wrote on May 5th, 2024 at 9:22pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on May 5th, 2024 at 2:53pm:
Because no one is outlining  the necessary reforms of international institutions like the IMF and World Bank,  to end the global refugee crisis, resulting in "illegal" immigration.

These "illegals"  are in fact involuntary immigrants, because they would rather live at home, were it not for the failing economies back home.



Stupid nonsense.


Let's see what you got.....


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Shithole countries are MADE shiteholes by their people who the flee them to the West from themselves only to recreate the shiteholes they have fled as Chinese, Muslim, Indian, Vietnamese, African ghetoes.

And then local whites flee those efnik ghettos. White flight.


Ah..... the old conservative "personal responsibility" mantra - despite the fact Africa is a net exporter of capital to self-interested  external 'creditors':

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/9/29/illegal-money-flows-from-africa-near-90...

Illicit money flows from Africa near $89bn, UN study says

Africa lost billions in illicit financial flows including
through tax evasion and theft: UN report


The report released on Monday calls Africa a “net creditor to the world”, echoing economists’ observations that the aid-reliant continent is actually a net exporter of capital because of these trends.

“Illicit financial flows rob Africa and its people of their prospects, undermining transparency and accountability and eroding trust in African institutions,” said UNCTAD Secretary-General Mukhisa Kituyi.

Junior Davis, head of policy and research at UNCTAD’s Africa division, told the Reuters news agency the figure was likely an underestimate, citing data limitations.

Nearly half of the total annual figure of $88.6bn is accounted for by the export of commodities such as gold, diamonds and platinum, the report said. For example, gold accounted for 77 percent of the total under-invoiced exports worth $40bn in 2015, it showed.

Understating a commodity’s true value helps conceal trade profits abroad and deprives developing countries of foreign exchange and erodes their tax base, UNCTAD said.

Tackling illicit flows is a priority for the UN, whose General Assembly adopted a resolution on this in 2018, and the report urges African countries to draw on the report to present “renewed arguments” in international forums.



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Re: Immigration
Reply #993 - May 6th, 2024 at 1:47pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on May 6th, 2024 at 1:37pm:
Frank wrote on May 5th, 2024 at 9:22pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on May 5th, 2024 at 2:53pm:
Because no one is outlining  the necessary reforms of international institutions like the IMF and World Bank,  to end the global refugee crisis, resulting in "illegal" immigration.

These "illegals"  are in fact involuntary immigrants, because they would rather live at home, were it not for the failing economies back home.



Stupid nonsense.


Let's see what you got.....


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Shithole countries are MADE shiteholes by their people who the flee them to the West from themselves only to recreate the shiteholes they have fled as Chinese, Muslim, Indian, Vietnamese, African ghetoes.

And then local whites flee those efnik ghettos. White flight.


Ah..... the old conservative "personal responsibility" mantra - despite the fact Africa is a net exporter of capital to self-interested  external 'creditors':

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/9/29/illegal-money-flows-from-africa-near-90...

Illicit money flows from Africa near $89bn, UN study says

Africa lost billions in illicit financial flows including
through tax evasion and theft: UN report


The report released on Monday calls Africa a “net creditor to the world”, echoing economists’ observations that the aid-reliant continent is actually a net exporter of capital because of these trends.

“Illicit financial flows rob Africa and its people of their prospects, undermining transparency and accountability and eroding trust in African institutions,” said UNCTAD Secretary-General Mukhisa Kituyi.

Junior Davis, head of policy and research at UNCTAD’s Africa division, told the Reuters news agency the figure was likely an underestimate, citing data limitations.

Nearly half of the total annual figure of $88.6bn is accounted for by the export of commodities such as gold, diamonds and platinum, the report said. For example, gold accounted for 77 percent of the total under-invoiced exports worth $40bn in 2015, it showed.

Understating a commodity’s true value helps conceal trade profits abroad and deprives developing countries of foreign exchange and erodes their tax base, UNCTAD said.

Tackling illicit flows is a priority for the UN, whose General Assembly adopted a resolution on this in 2018, and the report urges African countries to draw on the report to present “renewed arguments” in international forums.




Well, you give them independence, you let them govern themselves - so the turn into corrupt cleptocracies.

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Re: Immigration
Reply #994 - May 6th, 2024 at 2:05pm
 
How to solve the mass immigration problem:

Teal MP suggests renting out spare bedrooms to ‘complete strangers’





May 5, 2024

Sky News host Paul Murray slams Teal MP Allegra Spender for a “fairly stupid idea” to rent out spare bedrooms to a “complete stranger”.

“A fairly wealthy lady has had a fairly stupid idea,” he said.

“Back to Allegra Spender, now of course the Teal MP who represents the seat of Wentworth.

“She has got an idea, you should be able to rent out your spare bedroom in your mansion.

“That will solve the housing crisis, apparently.”
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Reply #995 - May 6th, 2024 at 2:07pm
 
Frank wrote on May 6th, 2024 at 1:47pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on May 6th, 2024 at 1:37pm:
Frank wrote on May 5th, 2024 at 9:22pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on May 5th, 2024 at 2:53pm:
Because no one is outlining  the necessary reforms of international institutions like the IMF and World Bank,  to end the global refugee crisis, resulting in "illegal" immigration.

These "illegals"  are in fact involuntary immigrants, because they would rather live at home, were it not for the failing economies back home.



Stupid nonsense.


Let's see what you got.....


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Shithole countries are MADE shiteholes by their people who the flee them to the West from themselves only to recreate the shiteholes they have fled as Chinese, Muslim, Indian, Vietnamese, African ghetoes.

And then local whites flee those efnik ghettos. White flight.


Ah..... the old conservative "personal responsibility" mantra - despite the fact Africa is a net exporter of capital to self-interested  external 'creditors':

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/9/29/illegal-money-flows-from-africa-near-90...

Illicit money flows from Africa near $89bn, UN study says

Africa lost billions in illicit financial flows including
through tax evasion and theft: UN report


The report released on Monday calls Africa a “net creditor to the world”, echoing economists’ observations that the aid-reliant continent is actually a net exporter of capital because of these trends.

“Illicit financial flows rob Africa and its people of their prospects, undermining transparency and accountability and eroding trust in African institutions,” said UNCTAD Secretary-General Mukhisa Kituyi.

Junior Davis, head of policy and research at UNCTAD’s Africa division, told the Reuters news agency the figure was likely an underestimate, citing data limitations.

Nearly half of the total annual figure of $88.6bn is accounted for by the export of commodities such as gold, diamonds and platinum, the report said. For example, gold accounted for 77 percent of the total under-invoiced exports worth $40bn in 2015, it showed.

Understating a commodity’s true value helps conceal trade profits abroad and deprives developing countries of foreign exchange and erodes their tax base, UNCTAD said.

Tackling illicit flows is a priority for the UN, whose General Assembly adopted a resolution on this in 2018, and the report urges African countries to draw on the report to present “renewed arguments” in international forums.




Well, you give them independence, you let them govern themselves - so the turn into corrupt cleptocracies.


Which greedy  foreign companies are exploiting to the full, read the UN report.
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Re: Immigration
Reply #996 - May 6th, 2024 at 2:09pm
 
Teal MP suggests renting out spare bedrooms to ‘complete strangers’ ?

What a stupid idea.
The person could be a murderer or a rapist , a druggie or a violent offender
or a pedophile or a confidence trickster who will steal all your money.
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Reply #997 - May 6th, 2024 at 2:18pm
 
Bobby. wrote on May 6th, 2024 at 2:05pm:
How to solve the mass immigration problem:

Teal MP suggests renting out spare bedrooms to ‘complete strangers’





May 5, 2024

Sky News host Paul Murray slams Teal MP Allegra Spender for a “fairly stupid idea” to rent out spare bedrooms to a “complete stranger”.

“A fairly wealthy lady has had a fairly stupid idea,” he said.

“Back to Allegra Spender, now of course the Teal MP who represents the seat of Wentworth.

“She has got an idea, you should be able to rent out your spare bedroom in your mansion.

“That will solve the housing crisis, apparently.”



Her real estate assetts
Self
Darling Point, NSW Residential
Great Mackerel Beach, NSW Holiday House / Investment
Great Mackerel Beach, NSW Holiday House / Investment
Woollahra, NSW Estate Asset


Spouse/ partner
Great Mackerel Beach, NSW Holiday House / Investment
Great Mackerel Beach, NSW
Cambridgeshire, UK Investment

https://www.aph.gov.au/senators_and_members/members/register

Coupla spare rooms, right there....
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Reply #998 - May 6th, 2024 at 2:32pm
 
Frank wrote on May 6th, 2024 at 2:18pm:
Bobby. wrote on May 6th, 2024 at 2:05pm:
How to solve the mass immigration problem:

Teal MP suggests renting out spare bedrooms to ‘complete strangers’





May 5, 2024

Sky News host Paul Murray slams Teal MP Allegra Spender for a “fairly stupid idea” to rent out spare bedrooms to a “complete stranger”.

“A fairly wealthy lady has had a fairly stupid idea,” he said.

“Back to Allegra Spender, now of course the Teal MP who represents the seat of Wentworth.

“She has got an idea, you should be able to rent out your spare bedroom in your mansion.

“That will solve the housing crisis, apparently.”



Her real estate assetts
Self
Darling Point, NSW Residential
Great Mackerel Beach, NSW Holiday House / Investment
Great Mackerel Beach, NSW Holiday House / Investment
Woollahra, NSW Estate Asset


Spouse/ partner
Great Mackerel Beach, NSW Holiday House / Investment
Great Mackerel Beach, NSW
Cambridgeshire, UK Investment

https://www.aph.gov.au/senators_and_members/members/register

Coupla spare rooms, right there....


Meanwhile, you are forgetting home ownership rates in Oz have been falling for decades, before the current ridiculous immigration levels materialized.

Hint: government should have maintained sufficient public housing stock, to cope with the falling ownership rates. 
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Reply #999 - May 6th, 2024 at 4:02pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on May 6th, 2024 at 2:32pm:
Frank wrote on May 6th, 2024 at 2:18pm:
Bobby. wrote on May 6th, 2024 at 2:05pm:
How to solve the mass immigration problem:

Teal MP suggests renting out spare bedrooms to ‘complete strangers’





May 5, 2024

Sky News host Paul Murray slams Teal MP Allegra Spender for a “fairly stupid idea” to rent out spare bedrooms to a “complete stranger”.

“A fairly wealthy lady has had a fairly stupid idea,” he said.

“Back to Allegra Spender, now of course the Teal MP who represents the seat of Wentworth.

“She has got an idea, you should be able to rent out your spare bedroom in your mansion.

“That will solve the housing crisis, apparently.”



Her real estate assetts
Self
Darling Point, NSW Residential
Great Mackerel Beach, NSW Holiday House / Investment
Great Mackerel Beach, NSW Holiday House / Investment
Woollahra, NSW Estate Asset


Spouse/ partner
Great Mackerel Beach, NSW Holiday House / Investment
Great Mackerel Beach, NSW
Cambridgeshire, UK Investment

https://www.aph.gov.au/senators_and_members/members/register

Coupla spare rooms, right there....


Meanwhile, you are forgetting home ownership rates in Oz have been falling for decades, before the current ridiculous immigration levels materialized.

Hint: government should have maintained sufficient public housing stock, to cope with the falling ownership rates. 


you're retarded. immigration was first seriously ramped up by john howard in the early-mid 2000s. house prices first started drifting off into the stratosphere around that time, 2006 is a good benchmark for when this began. people have been commenting on the so called 'housing-crisis' since 2010, just because you've only heard of it from the relatively recent media clamouring doesn't mean more observant commentators haven't been noticing and talking about this for much, much longer.

public housing is never going to keep pace with the absolutely insane levels of migration we've been running for nearly two decades now. f_ck off.
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Reply #1000 - May 6th, 2024 at 5:41pm
 
JC Denton wrote on May 6th, 2024 at 4:02pm:
you're retarded. immigration was first seriously ramped up by john howard in the early-mid 2000s. house prices first started drifting off into the stratosphere around that time, 2006 is a good benchmark for when this began. people have been commenting on the so called 'housing-crisis' since 2010, just because you've only heard of it from the relatively recent media clamouring doesn't mean more observant commentators haven't been noticing and talking about this for much, much longer.

public housing is never going to keep pace with the absolutely insane levels of migration we've been running for nearly two decades now. f_ck off.



John Howard started it but not at the insane levels we have now.
We're expecting 1 million more immigrants for this year - 2024  - alone.

There were over 100,000 for every month so far.    Shocked
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Reply #1001 - May 6th, 2024 at 5:59pm
 
Bobby. wrote on May 6th, 2024 at 2:09pm:
Teal MP suggests renting out spare bedrooms to ‘complete strangers’ ?

What a stupid idea.
The person could be a murderer or a rapist , a druggie or a violent offender
or a pedophile or a confidence trickster who will steal all your money.


Just reject the applications that have the name Trump on them.

I remember back in the '60s and '70s, renting out spare rooms to strangers was not all that unusual.

They were called boarders, and lots of people were taking them in.


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Reply #1002 - May 6th, 2024 at 6:41pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on May 6th, 2024 at 5:59pm:
Bobby. wrote on May 6th, 2024 at 2:09pm:
Teal MP suggests renting out spare bedrooms to ‘complete strangers’ ?

What a stupid idea.
The person could be a murderer or a rapist , a druggie or a violent offender
or a pedophile or a confidence trickster who will steal all your money.


Just reject the applications that have the name Trump on them.

I remember back in the '60s and '70s, renting out spare rooms to strangers was not all that unusual.

They were called boarders, and lots of people were taking them in.



So how many boarders do you have, stinker?


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Reply #1003 - May 6th, 2024 at 7:51pm
 
Bobby. wrote on May 6th, 2024 at 2:09pm:
Teal MP suggests renting out spare bedrooms to ‘complete strangers’ ?

What a stupid idea.
The person could be a murderer or a rapist , a druggie or a violent offender
or a pedophile or a confidence trickster who will steal all your money.


Liberal voters need a roof over their heads too, Bobby.

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Reply #1004 - May 6th, 2024 at 10:51pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on May 6th, 2024 at 7:51pm:
Bobby. wrote on May 6th, 2024 at 2:09pm:
Teal MP suggests renting out spare bedrooms to ‘complete strangers’ ?

What a stupid idea.
The person could be a murderer or a rapist , a druggie or a violent offender
or a pedophile or a confidence trickster who will steal all your money.


Liberal voters need a roof over their heads too, Bobby.




Have you got a spare room for a stranger?

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