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Reply #465 - Dec 27th, 2023 at 11:10am
 
Frank wrote on Dec 27th, 2023 at 11:06am:
mothra wrote on Dec 27th, 2023 at 10:58am:
Frank wrote on Dec 27th, 2023 at 10:51am:
mothra wrote on Dec 27th, 2023 at 10:23am:
Frank wrote on Dec 27th, 2023 at 10:18am:
mothra wrote on Dec 27th, 2023 at 9:17am:
"Want to destroy white people".

LOL!

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Why do only white, European-derived countries allow immigration from every part of the world? Why don't Asian, African, Latin American countries have similar open immigration systems? Why are they not labelled racist for blocking Arabs, Africans, Indians etc? 





It continues to amuse me that you think they don't.

Stay outraged precisely because of your ignorance and stupidity, fruitbat. We've come to rely on you fprit.



What is the third world migration rate into Japan, Korea, China? Why don't they have multiculturalism? Why don't Muslim countries? There was Jewish migration into a tiny corner of the Middle East and the Muslims can't cope with the idea.
But Muslims are pouring into Europe, Australia, America.


You know where most of the refugee camps are, yeah?

They are not resetting them, are they.

More than 370,000 Afghans have fled Pakistan since October 1 after Pakistan said it would expel more than a million undocumented refugees and migrants, mostly Afghans, amid a row with Kabul over charges that it harbours anti-Pakistan armed groups.1 Dec 2023.



Iran and Turkey top the list for resettlement.

What was your next grievance?
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Re: Immigration
Reply #466 - Dec 27th, 2023 at 11:38am
 
mothra wrote on Dec 27th, 2023 at 11:10am:
Frank wrote on Dec 27th, 2023 at 11:06am:
mothra wrote on Dec 27th, 2023 at 10:58am:
Frank wrote on Dec 27th, 2023 at 10:51am:
mothra wrote on Dec 27th, 2023 at 10:23am:
Frank wrote on Dec 27th, 2023 at 10:18am:
mothra wrote on Dec 27th, 2023 at 9:17am:
"Want to destroy white people".

LOL!

Ozpol.


Why do only white, European-derived countries allow immigration from every part of the world? Why don't Asian, African, Latin American countries have similar open immigration systems? Why are they not labelled racist for blocking Arabs, Africans, Indians etc? 





It continues to amuse me that you think they don't.

Stay outraged precisely because of your ignorance and stupidity, fruitbat. We've come to rely on you fprit.



What is the third world migration rate into Japan, Korea, China? Why don't they have multiculturalism? Why don't Muslim countries? There was Jewish migration into a tiny corner of the Middle East and the Muslims can't cope with the idea.
But Muslims are pouring into Europe, Australia, America.


You know where most of the refugee camps are, yeah?

They are not resetting them, are they.

More than 370,000 Afghans have fled Pakistan since October 1 after Pakistan said it would expel more than a million undocumented refugees and migrants, mostly Afghans, amid a row with Kabul over charges that it harbours anti-Pakistan armed groups.1 Dec 2023.



Iran and Turkey top the list for resettlement.

What was your next grievance?

A ridiculous lie.


https://www.refugeecouncil.org.au/global-resettlement-statistics/5/
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Re: Immigration
Reply #467 - Dec 27th, 2023 at 11:41am
 
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Reply #468 - Dec 27th, 2023 at 11:44am
 
mothra wrote on Dec 27th, 2023 at 11:41am:



Not resettlement. frightbat.

https://refugeeresearchonline.org/irans-mistreatment-of-afghans-human-rights-vio
lations-of-refugees-and-asylum-seekers/


https://newlinesinstitute.org/displacement-and-migration/protecting-syrian-refug
ees-in-turkey-from-forced-repatriation/



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Reply #469 - Dec 27th, 2023 at 12:15pm
 
Frank wrote on Dec 27th, 2023 at 11:44am:
mothra wrote on Dec 27th, 2023 at 11:41am:



Not resettlement. frightbat.

https://refugeeresearchonline.org/irans-mistreatment-of-afghans-human-rights-vio
lations-of-refugees-and-asylum-seekers/


https://newlinesinstitute.org/displacement-and-migration/protecting-syrian-refug
ees-in-turkey-from-forced-repatriation/






Quote:
This data does not include those resettled outside of UNHCR processes.
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Reply #470 - Dec 27th, 2023 at 12:29pm
 
Frank wrote on Sep 2nd, 2022 at 4:40pm:
Permanent migration cap lifted to 195,000


An additional 35,000 skilled migrants will be able to call Australia home in this financial year, after Home Affairs Minister Clare O’Neill confirmed the annual permanent migration target would increase from 160,000 to 195,000.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/permanent-migration-cap-lifted-to-195000...




AI technology is forecast to replace as much as half of the work that is done today by 2030.


A 2019 McKinsey & Co report on automation in Australia laid out just how quickly industries are set to change.

The authors said by 2030 as many as 5 million Australians may need to change their occupation because of automation, with WA's East Pilbara, Penrith in western Sydney, Mackay in Queensland, West Coast in Tasmania and Port Pirie north of Adelaide among the most exposed local government areas.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-28/artificial-intelligence-policy-australia-...




Investing in Australians’ education is far more important than immigration
in resolving the nation’s skills shortages, according to leading economists surveyed in the lead-up to this week’s jobs and skills summit.

The 50 top Australian economists polled by the Economic Society of Australia and The Conversation are recognised by their peers as leaders in their fields, including economic modelling, labour markets and public policy.

Asked to select from a list of topics to be discussed at the summit, and which offered the most promise of delivering better outcomes, two-thirds picked “education and skills”. Only one-third picked “migration policy”.
https://theconversation.com/is-education-or-immigration-the-answer-to-our-skills...

Share ye links and bicker.



I welcome the good news wrt increasing immigration.

It essentially means I can now go ahead and buy that property I've been closely following...with the utmost confidence. I'll be able to offset any issues wrt current interest rates by charging more rent so that my numbers do meet current credit lending restrictions.

I daresay it's going to be a VERY tough time for those who rent. We who are landlords and are looking to buy/rent out properties will continue to have the upper hand thanks to the current Labor Federal Govt (and Labor State Govts) who have delivered such welcoming news.

It's most comforting to know that our Labor politicians (across state and federal levels) are longstanding advocates of creating and exploiting real estate investment portfolio opportunities. As such I fully expect their policy directions to continue to support all of us who share their passion.





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Re: Immigration
Reply #471 - Dec 27th, 2023 at 12:34pm
 
John Smith wrote on Dec 27th, 2023 at 12:15pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 27th, 2023 at 11:44am:
mothra wrote on Dec 27th, 2023 at 11:41am:



Not resettlement. frightbat.

https://refugeeresearchonline.org/irans-mistreatment-of-afghans-human-rights-vio
lations-of-refugees-and-asylum-seekers/


https://newlinesinstitute.org/displacement-and-migration/protecting-syrian-refug
ees-in-turkey-from-forced-repatriation/






Quote:
This data does not include those resettled outside of UNHCR processes.



How many were resettled outside the UNHCR process, then?

Hosting is not resettlement.
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Reply #472 - Dec 27th, 2023 at 1:00pm
 
John Smith wrote on Dec 27th, 2023 at 10:43am:
Bobby. wrote on Dec 27th, 2023 at 8:20am:
John Smith wrote on Dec 26th, 2023 at 8:36pm:
We need to raise our immigration levels.



Shut up Smith -
the last thing we need is more wogs like you.


so many wogs here and still you remain uncultured.
Some people are simply beyond help. But thats no reason for others to suffer.



Listen dopey John,
Where are they gunna live? - tents set up in parks?  -
there are not enough houses, apartments or units.
Rents have skyrocketed and so has the cost of buying property
even though interest rates have risen very high.

I'm glad I bought a place recently but I had to pay a lot more than I should have
owing to the ridiculous numbers of people immigrating here.
Labor has wrecked this country.   Angry

have another read here:

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/australia-s-population-is-set-to-skyroc...


Australia's population is set to skyrocket in the next decade -
here are the cities where the numbers will soar the most.
Australian population tipped to grow by 4 million in a decade
NSW, Victoria tipped to have 2.5 million more people by 2033.


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Reply #473 - Dec 27th, 2023 at 1:39pm
 
"AI technology is forecast to replace as much as half of the work that is done today by 2030."

Hence the need for a fairer division of the spoils and a paid occupation of Dole Bludger Grade 1- whatever ... not sure how they're gonna work out the promotion standards though - from Grade 1 on up.... umm ... seniority as a DB?  Expertise and training as a DB? Accreditation? 

Downe at Ye Olde Dole Bludgere Interviewe:-

"Hi - I'm (name withheld).... I'm here to complete my Dole Bludger application."

"Funny name - is it Greek?"

"Na - it's amorphous and all-pervasive!"

"Ah - mixed ethnicity.  Let's get on - got your paperwork with you?"

"Yep!  Full accreditation as a lifetime Dole Bludger and a heap of references from past non-employers .... and I have a Degree in Dole Bludging with a major in Procrastination, and am working on a Master's!"

Oh - Procrasti?  How's the war going over there - got family or something?"

"Nah - they're all here now on the family reunion program.... loving the lifestyle, especially the freedom to not work.... me uncle looks like getting affirmative action to push him up the scales - social balance, you know.  He reckons it's way better here than picking dung off the desert floor over there... but he still wants to go home to visit his fifteen wives.... "

"Yes, of course - it's one of our central policies...  fifteen wives, you say?  Well - we need as many Dole Bludgers as we can get... have you looked at the Family Reunion program again.. might be some funding there for free travel - spend more time with and making family, you know - might be a good idea.... well... let's start you as a Provisional Grade One Dole Bludger - that's the lowest paid .. but we'll soon move you up as you gather non-experience in work....."
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Re: Immigration
Reply #474 - Dec 27th, 2023 at 4:28pm
 
JC Denton wrote on Dec 27th, 2023 at 8:14am:
Karnal wrote on Dec 26th, 2023 at 8:01pm:
Bobby. wrote on Dec 26th, 2023 at 3:32pm:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 25th, 2023 at 7:42pm:
Madness - pure madness - taking in the scum of the universe... clutching the viper of certain strands of belief to our bosom... bringing in anathemic groups to disrupt life and liberty for the majority by causing crime and disruption and by offering to government the opportunity to impose yet another vile rule on everyone when the problem is a minority that cause irreparable harm to our kind of society... we need to be a lot more discriminating in our selected immigrants AND those we choose to deport as not being up to the job ....... choose only the very best and most likely to fit in... and not this open slather of third worlders who openly hate the place and only come here in many cases to rip a chunk out of it before re-settling on pension and such in 'the old country' ...

Never seen such stupid mismanagement of a country... and now look...

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/australia-s-population-is-set-to-skyroc...



That's shocking - where the hell are they going to live?
We'll have tent cities in every park!

Rents and property will skyrocket in price.

Australia is fast becoming a 3rd world country with extreme poverty.

I blame mostly the Labor Govts.
Poor people vote for them.




No, dear, Australia has sixth highest standard of living in the world.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/standard-of-living-by-country

It is far from becoming a 3rd world country with extreme poverty. It's up there with Finland, Norway and the next country up, Switzerland.

Don't come the raw prawn with us, dear. Aussie has been surpassed in its previous number one spot by Canada, a country with 38 million people and an annual immigration target of 500,000.

Sorry, Bobby, the jig's up. Not only is Bobby wrong, his entire analysis is in the bin - back to where it came from.

Suck on that, leftards.


being a small population on top of an enormous fixed natural resource base will do that


Do what? Turn us into a third world country with extreme poverty?

I think not. Immigration is doing precisely the opposite. It allows you, when you come home for Chrissie, to take a blood test, see a doctor, get your meds reviewed, etc, etc, etc, along with all the other services we use because we import the skilled labour necessary to do these things.

The only downside Bobby's suggested is high property prices. Given this is a housing supply problem, the only way out is to have enough builders here to get cracking.

So I'm curious. Where do you suggest we find all those tradies?

Thoughts?
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Reply #475 - Dec 27th, 2023 at 4:31pm
 
Karnal wrote on Dec 27th, 2023 at 4:28pm:
Do what? Turn us into a third world country with extreme poverty?

I think not. Immigration is doing precisely the opposite. It allows you, when you come home for Chrissie, to take a blood test, see a doctor, get your meds reviewed, etc, etc, etc, along with all the other services we use because we import the skilled labour necessary to do these things.

The only downside Bobby's suggested is high property prices. Given this is a housing supply problem, the only way out is to have enough builders here to get cracking.

So I'm curious. Where do you suggest we find all those tradies?

Thoughts?



I know - Pakistan - they have lots of tradies.
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Reply #476 - Dec 27th, 2023 at 4:51pm
 
Karnal wrote on Dec 27th, 2023 at 4:28pm:
Do what? Turn us into a third world country with extreme poverty?

I think not. Immigration is doing precisely the opposite. It allows you, when you come home for Chrissie, to take a blood test, see a doctor, get your meds reviewed, etc, etc, etc, along with all the other services we use because we import the skilled labour necessary to do these things.

The only downside Bobby's suggested is high property prices. Given this is a housing supply problem, the only way out is to have enough builders here to get cracking.

So I'm curious. Where do you suggest we find all those tradies?

Thoughts?

Ah, so the way to cope with very high levels of immigration is to.... er.... increase the level of immigration.

That sounds  so stupid that it must be your idea.




Migrant arrivals
In 2022-23, the number of migrant arrivals increased to 737,000, up from 427,000 the year before. This equates to an annual increase of 73 per cent. In 2020-21, there was an annual decrease of 71 per cent, due to the travel restrictions during the pandemic. With the travel restrictions now lifted, the number of migrant arrivals has surpassed annual numbers recorded pre-pandemic.

In the five years prior to the pandemic, the average number of migrant arrivals was 515,000 per year with the majority arriving on temporary visas (307,000). For those who arrived with a permanent visa, the average was 92,000. For Australian and New Zealand citizens arriving it was 77,000 and 32,000 respectively.

In 2022-23, those on temporary visas (554,000) recorded higher volumes than pre-pandemic levels. Permanent visa holder arrivals (80,000) and Australian citizen arrivals (59,000) however, recorded lower levels. New Zealand citizens (41,000) recorded higher volumes than the pre-pandemic five-year average.

Temporary visa holders were the largest contributors to arrivals in 2022-23. Of the temporary visa holders, the largest group was international students (283,000). Other temporary visa holders include working holiday makers (70,000) and temporary skilled (49,000).




Students from the third world are not working as tradies, building houses, paki. Or as doctors and nurses. Most overseas student graduates are employed well below their supposed 'skill' level'.
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Reply #477 - Dec 27th, 2023 at 5:06pm
 
Frank wrote on Dec 27th, 2023 at 12:34pm:
John Smith wrote on Dec 27th, 2023 at 12:15pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 27th, 2023 at 11:44am:
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Not resettlement. frightbat.

https://refugeeresearchonline.org/irans-mistreatment-of-afghans-human-rights-vio
lations-of-refugees-and-asylum-seekers/


https://newlinesinstitute.org/displacement-and-migration/protecting-syrian-refug
ees-in-turkey-from-forced-repatriation/






Quote:
This data does not include those resettled outside of UNHCR processes.



How many were resettled outside the UNHCR process, then?

Hosting is not resettlement.


No idea .. I was just pointing out your error. Something that happens a lot actually Roll Eyes
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Reply #478 - Dec 27th, 2023 at 5:08pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Dec 27th, 2023 at 1:00pm:
Listen dopey John,
Where are they gunna live? - tents set up in parks?  -



no need. If we Import some builders, we can build new houses for them all.
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Reply #479 - Dec 27th, 2023 at 5:10pm
 
John Smith wrote on Dec 27th, 2023 at 5:06pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 27th, 2023 at 12:34pm:
John Smith wrote on Dec 27th, 2023 at 12:15pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 27th, 2023 at 11:44am:
mothra wrote on Dec 27th, 2023 at 11:41am:



Not resettlement. frightbat.

https://refugeeresearchonline.org/irans-mistreatment-of-afghans-human-rights-vio
lations-of-refugees-and-asylum-seekers/


https://newlinesinstitute.org/displacement-and-migration/protecting-syrian-refug
ees-in-turkey-from-forced-repatriation/






Quote:
This data does not include those resettled outside of UNHCR processes.



How many were resettled outside the UNHCR process, then?

Hosting is not resettlement.


No idea .. I was just pointing out your error. Something that happens a lot actually Roll Eyes



What error?

Iran and Turkey are NOT resettling refugees. The West does.

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