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Frank wrote on Sep 3rd, 2022 at 11:23am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 3rd, 2022 at 11:09am:
[quote]But university is (or should be) demanding. So to make is 'accessible' they dumbed most uni courses down to the level where you can enrol in a teaching degree with an ATAR of 36 (Federation Uni). Social Work (Disability) 45.  A third to half of these low ability students drop out after a year or two


Frank - those figures can't be right. 36?? 45?? Who would get such a ridiculously low ATAR in the first place?

That is right wing bullshit.  The minimum ATAR score for a teaching degree is 70 at Federation University.  Time you caught up with reality, rather than relying on what Soren feeds you.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #2431 - Yesterday at 10:40am
 
Lowering the bar for teaching
University      Degree      ATAR
Federation      Bachelor of Education (early childhood)      36.15
Tasmania      Bachelor of Education (Primary)      39.35
RMIT      Bachelor of Education (Primary)      50.3
Victoria      Bachelor of Education (P-12)      50.4
Canberra      Bachelor of Primary Education      51.9
Charles Darwin      Bachelor of Education Secondary (Mathematics)      52.7
Newcastle      Bachelor of Education (secondary)      54.15
Charles Sturt      Bachelor of Education (K-12)      55.25
La Trobe      Bachelor of Education      55.85
Australian Catholic University      Bachelor of Education (primary and secondary)      56.4
Deakin      Bachelor of Education (primary)      59
Flinders      Bachelor of Education (secondary)/Bachelor of Science      59.65
Monash      Bachelor of Education (Honours) in primary and secondary education      60
Source:  Courseseeker.edu.au showing lowest ATAR rank to receive an offer




Among all year 12 graduates with an ATAR, the average score in NSW is 70.

ATARs range from a low of 30 (in Queensland, equivalent to the bottom 1 per cent) to a top of 99.95 (the highest 0.38 per cent) required for medicine.

However, the latest data reveals that 15 universities offered places in teaching degrees this year based on raw ATAR scores below 60 – the lowest 20 per cent of academic performers.

The elite Monash University, which enrolled an applicant with an ATAR of 60, said results could be bumped up by 10 points for applicants with “sociocultural or financial disadvantage’’.


Centre for Independent Studies education policy director Glenn Fahey said research showed that students with ATAR scores below 60 were three times more likely to drop out of university than entrants with scores above 80.

“It’s important the very best candidates are attracted to teaching,’’ he said.

“When they lack the prerequisite literacy and numeracy foundations, it can compromise their ability to be highly effective teachers in classrooms.’’

RMIT University enrolled a student in its Bachelor of Education (Primary) this year with an ATAR of 50.3 – and then bumped it up to 70.5 through “equity adjustments’’.

Charles Darwin University allowed a raw ATAR of 52.7 for entry to its degree for teaching maths to high school students.



Federation University has enrolled a student with an ATAR of 36.15 into its Bachelor of Education (early childhood) – a degree that allows graduates to teach in childcare centres, preschools and primary schools.

A spokeswoman said that once “adjustment points’’ were taken into consideration, no students were admitted with an “adjusted ATAR’’ below 55 for early childhood degrees or 70 for primary school degrees.

La Trobe University – which is considered to offer the most rigorous teaching degrees – admitted a student with an ATAR of 55.85.

A spokeswoman said CourseSeeker showed the lowest raw ATAR “without adjustments’’ through special entry schemes.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/education/universities-enrolling-lowatar-studen...



Even the ABC reported on this in 2018
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-09-18/students-lowest-atar-scores-teaching-degr...[/url]

s did the Silly Morning Herals
https://www.smh.com.au/education/low-atar-students-admitted-into-teaching-degree...
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Reply #2432 - Yesterday at 10:41am
 
Brian Ross wrote Yesterday at 10:08am:
Frank wrote on Sep 3rd, 2022 at 11:23am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 3rd, 2022 at 11:09am:
[quote]But university is (or should be) demanding. So to make is 'accessible' they dumbed most uni courses down to the level where you can enrol in a teaching degree with an ATAR of 36 (Federation Uni). Social Work (Disability) 45.  A third to half of these low ability students drop out after a year or two


Frank - those figures can't be right. 36?? 45?? Who would get such a ridiculously low ATAR in the first place?

That is right wing bullshit.  The minimum ATAR score for a teaching degree is 70 at Federation Univeristy.  Time you caught up with reality, rather than relying on what Soren feeds you.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

You are an ignorant idiot.

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Reply #2433 - Yesterday at 10:53am
 
Vibrant and diverse subcontinental toilet kultcha is enriching Australian cities:


https://x.com/TRobinsonNewEra/status/1993288189847781859


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Reply #2434 - Yesterday at 11:12am
 
Frank wrote Yesterday at 10:53am:
Vibrant and diverse subcontinental toilet kultcha is enriching Australian cities:


https://x.com/TRobinsonNewEra/status/1993288189847781859




Doctor or engineer?


https://x.com/NoticerNews/status/1993481969519452350



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Reply #2435 - Yesterday at 11:18am
 
Frank wrote Yesterday at 11:12am:



More cultural enrichment - thanks Albo.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #2436 - Yesterday at 1:55pm
 
Frank wrote Yesterday at 10:41am:
Brian Ross wrote Yesterday at 10:08am:
Frank wrote on Sep 3rd, 2022 at 11:23am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 3rd, 2022 at 11:09am:
[quote]But university is (or should be) demanding. So to make is 'accessible' they dumbed most uni courses down to the level where you can enrol in a teaching degree with an ATAR of 36 (Federation Uni). Social Work (Disability) 45.  A third to half of these low ability students drop out after a year or two


Frank - those figures can't be right. 36?? 45?? Who would get such a ridiculously low ATAR in the first place?

That is right wing bullshit.  The minimum ATAR score for a teaching degree is 70 at Federation Univeristy.  Time you caught up with reality, rather than relying on what Soren feeds you.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

You are an ignorant idiot.

Really? Prove it, Soren.  My source was Federal University itself.  What was your source?  Was the lower ATAR score taking into account other factors rather than just academic achievement?  What was your ATAR for your PhD?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #2437 - Yesterday at 3:02pm
 
You do not need an ATAR for a PhD you ignorant idiot. It is not an undergraduate award. The candidature process is completely different to undergraduate course admissions.

The sourse of the articles in the Australian and The ABC and The Silly Morning Herals were given in the links I provided: Course Seeker and UAC.

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Reply #2438 - Yesterday at 5:49pm
 
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An Adelaide man who filmed an Indian migrant defecating in public has been arrested by the @AusFedPolice  for using a carriage service to menace and harrass, Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke confirmed.

'We have zero tolerance for racial hatred in Modern Australia'
https://x.com/auseconomicunit/status/1993491730935713836
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Reply #2439 - Yesterday at 5:53pm
 
Frank wrote Yesterday at 5:49pm:
Frank wrote Yesterday at 11:12am:



An Adelaide man who filmed an Indian migrant defecating in public has been arrested by the @AusFedPolice  for using a carriage service to menace and harrass, Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke confirmed.

'We have zero tolerance for racial hatred in Modern Australia'
https://x.com/auseconomicunit/status/1993491730935713836


Fake news sounds exactly like real woke news.

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Reply #2440 - Yesterday at 6:07pm
 
Bobby. wrote Yesterday at 11:18am:
Frank wrote Yesterday at 11:12am:



More cultural enrichment - thanks Albo.   Roll Eyes




bobby,

Aren't you glad that the CSIRO imported those African dung beetles !


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