Frank wrote on May 15^th, 2025 at 8:22pm:


I like the fact that most Australian Muslims are happy, law-abiding people, Soren but then I know Muslims, which you don't.  Australian Muslims are decent people in the main and quite well adjusted.  Shame your Islamophobia makes it impossible for you to talk to Muslims.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...

Brian Ross wrote on May 15^th, 2025 at 9:27pm:





WHEN more than 30 Muslim inmates get down on their prayer mats inside Goulburn’s Supermax prison and bow towards Mecca, it doesn’t much bother serial killer Ivan Milat.

As Ivan revealed in exclusive letters to news.com.au, he is one of just a handful of non-Muslim prisoners inside Australia’s most secure jail.

Living inside Supermax — which has three separate units that house cells with have common day rooms shared by two or three inmates — are members of the 2005 Pendennis terrorist plot, and the newer wave of ISIS-inspired extremists.

But Supermax’s prisoner population also includes the most dangerous and cunning inmates in the country, who are considered likely to try to escape or to harm prison guards or bash other criminals.

The inmates have included Brothers 4 Life gang leader Bassam Hamzy, his gang rival Farhad Qaumi, and violent and unpredictable prisoner, Martin Toki, who is serving a minimum 22 years for his wife’s 2001 murder.  Execution style murderer Leith Marchant, serving 38 years, converted to Islam inside jail and became so radical that he shunned his mattress to sleep on bare concrete.

One of the first Pendennis men to walk free from jail was Khaled Sharrouf, released after four years for having bomb-making materials in 2009.  In 2013, he fled Australia on a borrowed passport to fight with ISIS in Syria.  It is unclear whether Sharrouf, who took his family to Syria and famously posted online photographs of his son holding the severed heads of ISIS victims, has died in battle.

It is believed his comrade-in-arms, Mohamed Elomar, did perish in a rocket attack in Syria or Iraq.  Elomar’s uncle Mohamed Ali Elomar was the leader of the Sydney Pendennis terror cell and is serving a 21 year sentence in Supermax. Khaled Cheiko and his nephew Moustafa Cheiko received 20 and 19 ½ years and are both in Supermax.



Bbwiyawn's "decent and well-adjusted people".

It is not negligible that most supermax inmates are Muslims.


It is not negligible that Muslims plot bloody, Islam-driven mayhem EVEN in jolly, peaceful, welcoming Australia which never had a Muslim colony and only ever welcomed them and gave them refuge and opportunity.




It is the same across the West.


The murder trial against the 25-year-old Afghan starts at the regional court in Stuttgart. On November 15, the asylum seeker Ramin F. is said to have killed a jogger. The reason: he was in a bad mood because he had been thrown out of his asylum centre. He therefore decided to kill someone at random. The victim, Fabrice D., was a French software developer. His heart was pierced with a 17-centimetre knife. He bled to death in the street.
Ramin F., who had arrived in Germany in 2022, was also previously considered aggressive. A week before the crime, he is said to have threatened the local caretaker in a dispute over a screwdriver: ‘I’ll kill you all!’. After the murder, he fled into a neighbouring forest, but was caught by the police just an hour after the crime.
As if all this wasn’t cruel enough, the Afghan now also has a clear idea of how things should go in court. Before Ramin F. took his seat, the interpreter assigned to him by the court had to leave. The Afghan did not want to sit next to a woman.
https://exxpress.at/news/weil-er-frustriert-war-afghane-ersticht-jogger-urteil-w...

Frank wrote on May 16^th, 2025 at 12:18pm:



For the most part, they are in supermax BECAUSE they are muslim and not because of their crimes.

Frank wrote on May 16^th, 2025 at 3:03pm:


I comprehended it as an Islamophobic attempt to portray all Muslims as dangerous criminals, Soren.  For you, it is a shame that the only people you can convince of that, are your fellow Islamophobes.  The majority of Muslims are not criminals.  The majority of Muslims are law-abiding, peaceful, Australian citizens who peacefully go about their business like most other Australians but then you've never known any Muslims, have you, you ignorant, WOFTAM, Islamophobe?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...

Brian Ross wrote on May 16^th, 2025 at 3:38pm:

You obviously do not comprehend the point and so, as usual, you hide behind your reflex, idiotic 'islamophobia' bleating.

Why do Muslims plot bloody, Islam-driven mayhem EVEN in jolly, peaceful, welcoming Australia which never had a Muslim colony and only ever welcomed them and gave them refuge and opportunity.


You cannot be taken seriously, Bbwiyawn, if you simply eyeroll and tut-tut away every critical observation about ISLAM and it's effect on its followers. And so you are not taken seriously.




'Islamophobia' is a hoax peddled by numpties and useless idiots. Hate incidents against Muslims are minuscule compared to antisemitic attacks. According to the FBI, antisemitic incidents made up 68% of religion-based hate crimes in 2023, numbering 1,832. Meanwhile, anti-Muslim incidents accounted for just 9%, some 236. In other words, antisemitic crimes in the United States were eight times more frequent. The trend is similar in other countries. For example, relative to population, anti-Jewish hate crimes in the United Kingdom were 12 times higher than anti-Muslim hate crimes, a rate of 121 per 10,000 of the Jewish population compared to 10 per 10,000 of the Muslim population.

Noticing and criticizing empirical Islamist behaviors, goals and values is not racism.
https://www.jns.org/exposing-the-islamophobia-hoax/

Brian Ross wrote on May 16^th, 2025 at 5:16pm:



What is the 'subterfuge'? It is a very simple, straightforward observation and a question:
Why do Muslims plot bloody, Islam-driven mayhem EVEN in jolly, peaceful, welcoming Australia which never had a Muslim colony and only ever welcomed them and gave them refuge and opportunity.



And are you saying that Jews cannot make critical observations about ISLAM? Who can or is allowed?  Only observant Muslims, as you said in your very own 'spineless apologist' thread?

Islamophobia is a hoax. You are a peddler of it.

Frank wrote on May 16^th, 2025 at 5:32pm:


It is inaccurate, badly so.  It should read, "Why do some Muslims plot bloody, Islam-driven mayhem EVEN in jolly, peaceful, welcoming Australia which never had a Muslim colony and only ever welcomed them and gave them refuge and opportunity."  It does not label all Muslims as criminals, something which you failed to do, badly, because of your Islamophobia.  As to why, it could be that some Muslims hail from tribal societies where personal honour and integrity are important personally and that includes religion. Most Muslims move on, a fact you refuse to acknowledge in your Islamophobia.

Quote:


Oh, dearie, dearie, me, until you acknowledge your illness you have no hope of remedying it, Soren.  You need to go on, meet some Muslims, discuss your concerns with them and most importantl, listen to their answers and accept them.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...