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Reply #1080 - May 16th, 2024 at 2:08pm
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on May 16th, 2024 at 1:22pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on May 16th, 2024 at 12:02pm:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on May 16th, 2024 at 10:09am:
Anyone ready yet to explain fully to me how and why the Third World Australia Immigration policy is better than the old First World Australia Immigration policy?

You do see what I'm getting at here, don't you?  Or are you all being coy?

Let me help - First World Immigration Policy brought in people who built the Snowies Scheme, often went into business or study and prospered until they blended in ..... Third World Immigration Policy brings in people who build their own ghettoes, rob Centrelink, NDIS, childcare and home schooling and anywhere else the money lies while disrupting the social fabric of the nation, overwhelming the housing market and jobs markets and infrastructure, reducing opportunity for the many, thus effectively reducing bargaining power of those who work for a living, and even carry on violently in the streets as well as predominating in often violent organised crime and crass exploitation of our lax business rules to rob people they contract to (Mehajer) ........

Now then - who can see the difference?

Let's forget this nonsense of 'White Australia policy' -


Unlike immediately after WW2, 1st worlders are now happy to stay in their own countries. That leaves the 3rd world to fill the gaps left by our failure to  train our own citizens.


Nonsense..... what first worlder would want to remain in a country over-run by third worlders.....


The point is first-worlders anywhere want to stay in their own country.; the post WW2 migration to Oz happened because the Old Country was in ruins. But Europe rebuilt, meaning  Oz had to look elsewhere for immigrants. 


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Er... did you miss it? I'm the one urging Albo to adopt a new economic system which actually serves the interests of all the people, rather than the 'economy' (...as if the 'economy' has to be catered to  like a god... got to raise interest rates to cool inflation - bugger the resulting unemployment, expected to rise to 4.5% next year). 


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Reply #1081 - May 16th, 2024 at 2:28pm
 
Just listening to - Parliament Question Time House of Representatives.

Dutton asked Albo about immigration
and the levels being too high.
Albo blamed the former Govt. and took no responsibility.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #1082 - May 16th, 2024 at 4:39pm
 
dutton only 'wants' to cut migration by 100k, assuming he'll even do it, which would still put us at rates of migration that are very high by historical standards. otoh thanks to our tireless suggestion and hectoring on twitter, one nation is now advocating for RE-IMMIGRATION, which is what we really need and want

https://x.com/MRobertsQLD/status/1790971197284663408

all of the fake students. working holiday and refugee visa churners. appeal grifters, family reunification spammers, foreign property buyers and 'investors' - out. get the f_ck out. it's time to go.
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Reply #1083 - May 16th, 2024 at 5:49pm
 
Net-zero is not enough – millions must go


One Nation will extend its zero-net migration policy and focus on permitting only highly skilled migrants from culturally cohesive countries into Australia. Migrants must demonstrate a sound level of English for assimilation purposes.

Pauline Hanson must be commended for pushing a net-zero immigration policy, in line with repeated polls going back years showing that large majorities of Australians think immigration is too high.

Unfortunately, her net zero goal does not solve the problem of the immigrants who are already here, many of whom have gained citizenship, and even if achieved could easily be undone by the next government which decided to reopen the floodgates.

As council elections in Australia and across the West have long shown, immigrants vote along ethnic and religious lines whereas native White people do not, resulting in local governments dominated by minority groups, who, of course, act mainly in their own interests, at the expense of everyone else. Why wouldn’t they?

Last week, for example, dozens of Muslim councillors were elected across the UK while running on pro-Palestine platforms. At least one screamed “Allah Akbar” after winning.

Well, as of the 2021 Census there were 7,029,262 overseas-born people in Australia, and 21,306,662 Australian citizens, out of a total resident population of 25,685,412. Three years on the population is estimated to be over 27 million.

By June 2023, the foreign-born population had risen by 1.2 million, and since then hundreds of thousands more immigrants have been allowed in.

In the year to June 2023, 192,947 people became citizens, including 40,361 Indians, the largest group by nationality.

What these figures show is that the bulk of the problem, the 5.5 million non-citizens (more than 17% of the population), is easily dealt with.

These people could have their visas cancelled overnight, which would instantly solve Australia’s housing crisis, ease congestion, and increase social cohesion.

Criminals dual citizens could also be forced to give up their Australian passports.

But even without a sudden and sweeping visa cancellation decision, it would be quite easy to motivate many of the foreign-born to leave voluntarily, with little to no impact on the lives of Anglo-Celtic Australians.

Here is a short list of measures that would be simple to implement and enjoy majority public support:

Close non-Christian religious institutions, schools and places of worship
Ban non-Christian religious garb, eg. the hijab, the kippah
Mandate the use of English only in all government departments and public services
Ban foreign ownership of property – current owners forced to sell
Ban the use of foreign languages by businesses in signs, menus, websites, language spoken at work, etc.
Ban the flying of foreign flags except at foreign embassies
End all government assistance for the foreign-born who have never worked or paid tax – no Medicare, no Centrelink
Shut down SBS and all other foreign language media, public and privately owned
Ban the celebration of foreign festivals and holidays
Ban Halal and Kosher food production
Ban remittances
Raise language requirements for universities to native English speaker Year 12 proficiency
This would result in millions of people who don’t belong in Australia leaving of their own accord, while enforcement could be self-funded by heavy fines for non-compliance along with the confiscation of property. It may even benefit the budget.

And as for the inevitable humans rights complaints, Covid showed that the government is more than willing to violate them for the common good, and that the average Australian simply does not care.

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Reply #1084 - May 16th, 2024 at 5:53pm
 
Good post Frank.

Get rid of them.
We don't need them -
we can't house them.

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Reply #1085 - May 16th, 2024 at 6:20pm
 
Frank wrote on May 16th, 2024 at 5:49pm:
Net-zero is not enough – millions must go


One Nation will extend its zero-net migration policy and focus on permitting only highly skilled migrants from culturally cohesive countries into Australia. Migrants must demonstrate a sound level of English for assimilation purposes.

Pauline Hanson must be commended for pushing a net-zero immigration policy, in line with repeated polls going back years showing that large majorities of Australians think immigration is too high.

Unfortunately, her net zero goal does not solve the problem of the immigrants who are already here, many of whom have gained citizenship, and even if achieved could easily be undone by the next government which decided to reopen the floodgates.

As council elections in Australia and across the West have long shown, immigrants vote along ethnic and religious lines whereas native White people do not, resulting in local governments dominated by minority groups, who, of course, act mainly in their own interests, at the expense of everyone else. Why wouldn’t they?

Last week, for example, dozens of Muslim councillors were elected across the UK while running on pro-Palestine platforms. At least one screamed “Allah Akbar” after winning.

Well, as of the 2021 Census there were 7,029,262 overseas-born people in Australia, and 21,306,662 Australian citizens, out of a total resident population of 25,685,412. Three years on the population is estimated to be over 27 million.

By June 2023, the foreign-born population had risen by 1.2 million, and since then hundreds of thousands more immigrants have been allowed in.

In the year to June 2023, 192,947 people became citizens, including 40,361 Indians, the largest group by nationality.

What these figures show is that the bulk of the problem, the 5.5 million non-citizens (more than 17% of the population), is easily dealt with.

These people could have their visas cancelled overnight, which would instantly solve Australia’s housing crisis, ease congestion, and increase social cohesion.

Criminals dual citizens could also be forced to give up their Australian passports.

But even without a sudden and sweeping visa cancellation decision, it would be quite easy to motivate many of the foreign-born to leave voluntarily, with little to no impact on the lives of Anglo-Celtic Australians.

Here is a short list of measures that would be simple to implement and enjoy majority public support:

Close non-Christian religious institutions, schools and places of worship
Ban non-Christian religious garb, eg. the hijab, the kippah
Mandate the use of English only in all government departments and public services
Ban foreign ownership of property – current owners forced to sell
Ban the use of foreign languages by businesses in signs, menus, websites, language spoken at work, etc.
Ban the flying of foreign flags except at foreign embassies
End all government assistance for the foreign-born who have never worked or paid tax – no Medicare, no Centrelink
Shut down SBS and all other foreign language media, public and privately owned
Ban the celebration of foreign festivals and holidays
Ban Halal and Kosher food production
Ban remittances
Raise language requirements for universities to native English speaker Year 12 proficiency
This would result in millions of people who don’t belong in Australia leaving of their own accord, while enforcement could be self-funded by heavy fines for non-compliance along with the confiscation of property. It may even benefit the budget.

And as for the inevitable humans rights complaints, Covid showed that the government is more than willing to violate them for the common good, and that the average Australian simply does not care.



Er ...one little mistake in there: "ban Kosher food"?.

(I would ban it, but that's another story...).

 
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Reply #1086 - May 16th, 2024 at 6:27pm
 
Yadda wrote on Sep 2nd, 2022 at 5:09pm:


Elon Musk is hoping to establish a colony on Mars.....
......probably because he knows, that there isn't very much intelligent life on this planet.         Tongue



Most of the human beings on this planet are insane [irrational], imo.   [i.e. most of them are happy to tolerate LAWLESSNESS.]

It must be The End Times bobby ?


I see what you mean. But in the absence of JC's promised return, would you settle for effective international law designed by men?
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Reply #1087 - May 16th, 2024 at 6:54pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on May 16th, 2024 at 6:20pm:
Frank wrote on May 16th, 2024 at 5:49pm:
Net-zero is not enough – millions must go


One Nation will extend its zero-net migration policy and focus on permitting only highly skilled migrants from culturally cohesive countries into Australia. Migrants must demonstrate a sound level of English for assimilation purposes.

Pauline Hanson must be commended for pushing a net-zero immigration policy, in line with repeated polls going back years showing that large majorities of Australians think immigration is too high.

Unfortunately, her net zero goal does not solve the problem of the immigrants who are already here, many of whom have gained citizenship, and even if achieved could easily be undone by the next government which decided to reopen the floodgates.

As council elections in Australia and across the West have long shown, immigrants vote along ethnic and religious lines whereas native White people do not, resulting in local governments dominated by minority groups, who, of course, act mainly in their own interests, at the expense of everyone else. Why wouldn’t they?

Last week, for example, dozens of Muslim councillors were elected across the UK while running on pro-Palestine platforms. At least one screamed “Allah Akbar” after winning.

Well, as of the 2021 Census there were 7,029,262 overseas-born people in Australia, and 21,306,662 Australian citizens, out of a total resident population of 25,685,412. Three years on the population is estimated to be over 27 million.

By June 2023, the foreign-born population had risen by 1.2 million, and since then hundreds of thousands more immigrants have been allowed in.

In the year to June 2023, 192,947 people became citizens, including 40,361 Indians, the largest group by nationality.

What these figures show is that the bulk of the problem, the 5.5 million non-citizens (more than 17% of the population), is easily dealt with.

These people could have their visas cancelled overnight, which would instantly solve Australia’s housing crisis, ease congestion, and increase social cohesion.

Criminals dual citizens could also be forced to give up their Australian passports.

But even without a sudden and sweeping visa cancellation decision, it would be quite easy to motivate many of the foreign-born to leave voluntarily, with little to no impact on the lives of Anglo-Celtic Australians.

Here is a short list of measures that would be simple to implement and enjoy majority public support:

Close non-Christian religious institutions, schools and places of worship
Ban non-Christian religious garb, eg. the hijab, the kippah
Mandate the use of English only in all government departments and public services
Ban foreign ownership of property – current owners forced to sell
Ban the use of foreign languages by businesses in signs, menus, websites, language spoken at work, etc.
Ban the flying of foreign flags except at foreign embassies
End all government assistance for the foreign-born who have never worked or paid tax – no Medicare, no Centrelink
Shut down SBS and all other foreign language media, public and privately owned
Ban the celebration of foreign festivals and holidays
Ban Halal and Kosher food production
Ban remittances
Raise language requirements for universities to native English speaker Year 12 proficiency
This would result in millions of people who don’t belong in Australia leaving of their own accord, while enforcement could be self-funded by heavy fines for non-compliance along with the confiscation of property. It may even benefit the budget.

And as for the inevitable humans rights complaints, Covid showed that the government is more than willing to violate them for the common good, and that the average Australian simply does not care.



Er ...one little mistake in there: "ban Kosher food"?.

(I would ban it, but that's another story...).

 


Ban Halal certification of which food is now only a part. It's being placed on everything they(Muslims) can come up with.

A money making scam of epic proportions.

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The Transparency Market Research expects the global Halal products market, valued at $2.70 trillion in 2015, will rise to $10.51 trillion by 2024, showcasing 16.2% of the Compound Annual Growth Rate (CAGR) within 8 years.

https://brandingforum.org/news/industry/halal-industry-in-2024/#:~:text=The%20Tr...
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Reply #1088 - May 16th, 2024 at 7:18pm
 
Gnads wrote on May 16th, 2024 at 6:54pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on May 16th, 2024 at 6:20pm:
Frank wrote on May 16th, 2024 at 5:49pm:
Net-zero is not enough – millions must go


One Nation will extend its zero-net migration policy and focus on permitting only highly skilled migrants from culturally cohesive countries into Australia. Migrants must demonstrate a sound level of English for assimilation purposes.

Pauline Hanson must be commended for pushing a net-zero immigration policy, in line with repeated polls going back years showing that large majorities of Australians think immigration is too high.

Unfortunately, her net zero goal does not solve the problem of the immigrants who are already here, many of whom have gained citizenship, and even if achieved could easily be undone by the next government which decided to reopen the floodgates.

As council elections in Australia and across the West have long shown, immigrants vote along ethnic and religious lines whereas native White people do not, resulting in local governments dominated by minority groups, who, of course, act mainly in their own interests, at the expense of everyone else. Why wouldn’t they?

Last week, for example, dozens of Muslim councillors were elected across the UK while running on pro-Palestine platforms. At least one screamed “Allah Akbar” after winning.

Well, as of the 2021 Census there were 7,029,262 overseas-born people in Australia, and 21,306,662 Australian citizens, out of a total resident population of 25,685,412. Three years on the population is estimated to be over 27 million.

By June 2023, the foreign-born population had risen by 1.2 million, and since then hundreds of thousands more immigrants have been allowed in.

In the year to June 2023, 192,947 people became citizens, including 40,361 Indians, the largest group by nationality.

What these figures show is that the bulk of the problem, the 5.5 million non-citizens (more than 17% of the population), is easily dealt with.

These people could have their visas cancelled overnight, which would instantly solve Australia’s housing crisis, ease congestion, and increase social cohesion.

Criminals dual citizens could also be forced to give up their Australian passports.

But even without a sudden and sweeping visa cancellation decision, it would be quite easy to motivate many of the foreign-born to leave voluntarily, with little to no impact on the lives of Anglo-Celtic Australians.

Here is a short list of measures that would be simple to implement and enjoy majority public support:

Close non-Christian religious institutions, schools and places of worship
Ban non-Christian religious garb, eg. the hijab, the kippah
Mandate the use of English only in all government departments and public services
Ban foreign ownership of property – current owners forced to sell
Ban the use of foreign languages by businesses in signs, menus, websites, language spoken at work, etc.
Ban the flying of foreign flags except at foreign embassies
End all government assistance for the foreign-born who have never worked or paid tax – no Medicare, no Centrelink
Shut down SBS and all other foreign language media, public and privately owned
Ban the celebration of foreign festivals and holidays
Ban Halal and Kosher food production
Ban remittances
Raise language requirements for universities to native English speaker Year 12 proficiency
This would result in millions of people who don’t belong in Australia leaving of their own accord, while enforcement could be self-funded by heavy fines for non-compliance along with the confiscation of property. It may even benefit the budget.

And as for the inevitable humans rights complaints, Covid showed that the government is more than willing to violate them for the common good, and that the average Australian simply does not care.



Er ...one little mistake in there: "ban Kosher food"?.

(I would ban it, but that's another story...).

 


Ban Halal certification of which food is now only a part. It's being placed on everything they(Muslims) can come up with.

A money making scam of epic proportions.



How is it a scam?
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Reply #1089 - May 16th, 2024 at 7:21pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on May 16th, 2024 at 6:27pm:
Yadda wrote on Sep 2nd, 2022 at 5:09pm:


Elon Musk is hoping to establish a colony on Mars.....
......probably because he knows, that there isn't very much intelligent life on this planet.         Tongue



Most of the human beings on this planet are insane [irrational], imo.   [i.e. most of them are happy to tolerate LAWLESSNESS.]

It must be The End Times bobby ?


I see what you mean. But in the absence of JC's promised return, would you settle for effective international law designed by men?


Like the UN in Gaza?
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Reply #1090 - May 17th, 2024 at 1:30am
 
“ Dutton pledges to slash permanent migration to 140,000 a year”.

“ smh.

I’ll vote for that and half the amount again!

Good bye Albo, good bye Penny!


“ Mr Dutton also promised a two-year ban on foreign investors and temporary residents purchasing existing homes in Australia.”

“ abcnews

Lot of people are going lose a lot of money.

I hope Dutton has tightened his security. Big business isn’t going be happy with these sort of announcements!
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Reply #1091 - May 17th, 2024 at 6:36am
 
Daves2017 wrote on May 17th, 2024 at 1:30am:
“ Dutton pledges to slash permanent migration to 140,000 a year”.

“ smh.

I’ll vote for that and half the amount again!

Good bye Albo, good bye Penny!


“ Mr Dutton also promised a two-year ban on foreign investors and temporary residents purchasing existing homes in Australia.”

“ abcnews

Lot of people are going lose a lot of money.


I hope Dutton has tightened his security. Big business isn’t going be happy with these sort of announcements!


Lot of people have been getting a lot of unearned money for far too long now - it's time to start to pay the piper.

It's Pushback time in many areas of Western society.... keep up the pressure.

P.s. I'm about to go into battle with a thieving bank.... watch this space.
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Reply #1092 - May 17th, 2024 at 7:14am
 
Daves2017 wrote on May 17th, 2024 at 1:30am:
“ Dutton pledges to slash permanent migration to 140,000 a year”.

“ smh.

I’ll vote for that and half the amount again!

Good bye Albo, good bye Penny!


“ Mr Dutton also promised a two-year ban on foreign investors and temporary residents purchasing existing homes in Australia.”

“ abcnews

Lot of people are going lose a lot of money.

I hope Dutton has tightened his security. Big business isn’t going be happy with these sort of announcements!


i've thought about it and his proposed cuts might actually be more meaningless than it appears, it's a sleight of hand. the current permanent intake per year is 190,000, he only intends to cut that, so by 50,000. the so-called temps make up the bulk of the numbers and they will still be coming, his 'cut' only affects the approval of permanents.

https://x.com/AvidCommentator/status/1791048942370894065

chances are he's going to be leaving a lot more people on bridging visas for longer, they'll still be here, they'll still be coming, they just won't be getting approved for permanency as quickly.
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Reply #1093 - May 17th, 2024 at 9:49am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on May 16th, 2024 at 7:18pm:
Gnads wrote on May 16th, 2024 at 6:54pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on May 16th, 2024 at 6:20pm:
Frank wrote on May 16th, 2024 at 5:49pm:
Net-zero is not enough – millions must go


One Nation will extend its zero-net migration policy and focus on permitting only highly skilled migrants from culturally cohesive countries into Australia. Migrants must demonstrate a sound level of English for assimilation purposes.

Pauline Hanson must be commended for pushing a net-zero immigration policy, in line with repeated polls going back years showing that large majorities of Australians think immigration is too high.

Unfortunately, her net zero goal does not solve the problem of the immigrants who are already here, many of whom have gained citizenship, and even if achieved could easily be undone by the next government which decided to reopen the floodgates.

As council elections in Australia and across the West have long shown, immigrants vote along ethnic and religious lines whereas native White people do not, resulting in local governments dominated by minority groups, who, of course, act mainly in their own interests, at the expense of everyone else. Why wouldn’t they?

Last week, for example, dozens of Muslim councillors were elected across the UK while running on pro-Palestine platforms. At least one screamed “Allah Akbar” after winning.

Well, as of the 2021 Census there were 7,029,262 overseas-born people in Australia, and 21,306,662 Australian citizens, out of a total resident population of 25,685,412. Three years on the population is estimated to be over 27 million.

By June 2023, the foreign-born population had risen by 1.2 million, and since then hundreds of thousands more immigrants have been allowed in.

In the year to June 2023, 192,947 people became citizens, including 40,361 Indians, the largest group by nationality.

What these figures show is that the bulk of the problem, the 5.5 million non-citizens (more than 17% of the population), is easily dealt with.

These people could have their visas cancelled overnight, which would instantly solve Australia’s housing crisis, ease congestion, and increase social cohesion.

Criminals dual citizens could also be forced to give up their Australian passports.

But even without a sudden and sweeping visa cancellation decision, it would be quite easy to motivate many of the foreign-born to leave voluntarily, with little to no impact on the lives of Anglo-Celtic Australians.

Here is a short list of measures that would be simple to implement and enjoy majority public support:

Close non-Christian religious institutions, schools and places of worship
Ban non-Christian religious garb, eg. the hijab, the kippah
Mandate the use of English only in all government departments and public services
Ban foreign ownership of property – current owners forced to sell
Ban the use of foreign languages by businesses in signs, menus, websites, language spoken at work, etc.
Ban the flying of foreign flags except at foreign embassies
End all government assistance for the foreign-born who have never worked or paid tax – no Medicare, no Centrelink
Shut down SBS and all other foreign language media, public and privately owned
Ban the celebration of foreign festivals and holidays
Ban Halal and Kosher food production
Ban remittances
Raise language requirements for universities to native English speaker Year 12 proficiency
This would result in millions of people who don’t belong in Australia leaving of their own accord, while enforcement could be self-funded by heavy fines for non-compliance along with the confiscation of property. It may even benefit the budget.

And as for the inevitable humans rights complaints, Covid showed that the government is more than willing to violate them for the common good, and that the average Australian simply does not care.



Er ...one little mistake in there: "ban Kosher food"?.

(I would ban it, but that's another story...).

 


Ban Halal certification of which food is now only a part. It's being placed on everything they(Muslims) can come up with.

A money making scam of epic proportions.



How is it a scam?


That sort of money tax free?

Placed on items/products unrelated to food?

Placed on food items that are naturally halal & don't require certification?

Why is it required on womens perfumes and sanitary items?

Why is it required on bottled water?

Why are electrical manufacturers and retailers paying halal certification on electrical goods? (happening in Indonesia)

etc etc etc.

It may not be considered a scam had it just remained on meat & food processing and not using pork products ..... similar to Kosher.

But it has gone far beyond that.

And that $10 trillion globally what is it all used for?

I'll give you a guess at where a lot of it goes. Roll Eyes
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