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Reply #2280 - Jul 17^th, 2026 at 12:05pm

Yadda wrote on Jul 17^th, 2026 at 10:04am:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 16^th, 2026 at 11:36pm:

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but note Musk's remark - looking forward - that "AI will make work optional and money irrelevant"......

In the 1950's 1960's governments around the world were saying that productivity would mean a 3 to 4 day work week for all.

In reality the benifits all went to about 1% of people while wages were reduced in real terms.

It was naive to think the benifits would be shared back then and a million percent less likely today.

Musk is proof of this - just how much does he share from his Trillion dollars ?

He is a prime example of the 1% & he will continue to keep it all.

Like the 'OIL families' in the Gulf, and the Iranian Mullahs,
on the other side of the gulf,
they keep it all too.

Its called a 'Lord and serf' system.

COMPARE;
What are the Gulf 'OIL families' and Iranian Mullahs doing with their wealth ?

And what is Elon Musk doing with his wealth ?

1. Oil made its possessors rich, unless they were silly enough to fight the US and Israel.

1. eg re S. Arabia: (google)

Funded by oil wealth, the state provides citizens with heavily subsidized or free services like education, healthcare, and utilities, alongside direct cash assistance for low-income families

ditto for states like Qatar with excellent free govtt funded health services, and one of the highest living standards per capita in the world.

As for Musk, he's working on establishing a colony on Mars.....

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Reply #2281 - Jul 17^th, 2026 at 12:52pm

Frank wrote on Jul 17^th, 2026 at 10:49am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 16^th, 2026 at 3:11pm:

2.C-i governments can issue money out of thin air IF the resources required to house clothe and feed everyone (aka 'socialism') are available for purchase by the government (avoiding inflation).

But that requires people to work, to convert available resources into goods and services we all need. So we need a public and private sector (the latter driven by self-interest) operating side by side.

Preferably with everyone participating in the economy, no unemployment necessary (unless you are rich enough to support yourself.)

SO what IS the incentive to work if government can give you money out of thin air?

You omitted point #1, proving you read want you want to read rather than address what is written (like writing "work" instead of "works", in "an economy which works for all"...deplorable).

#1. Abos nail it on the head with their term indicating contempt for the dole: "sit-down money"; most healthy adults want to participate in the nation's economy, thereby supporting themselves" in a purposeful life.

Subsistance on the dole is NOT a purposeful life, unless AI enables governments to fund a high enough universal income (UHI, not a UBI...) allowing citizens to follow their own ideas to engage in a purposeful life., as suggested by Musk (who envisages an AI-assisted provision of goods and services revolution).

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Who is going to produce all the stuff that you can simply buy for fiat money?

Human workers or AI-directed robots; do try to keep up....and only govt. can buy stuff with fiat money (you and I have to earn or borrow bank-issued credit money.)

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What IS the point of fiat money if it is an exchange for thing you can have without doing anything in return?

1. Currently, ie, before the coming AI-assisted robot revolution: the "point" of fiat money is to enable c-i governments to deliver the essentials for all, without being forced to rely on taxpayer money.

https://publicmoneypublicgood.net/

Note: public money, not 'taxpayer money'.

2. Govt. can't deliver the essentials for all UNLESS either humans or robots do the necessary work.

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How do you make people choose work instead of sit-down money?

The current system does that pretty well: make the dole low enough to ensure people WANT to work.

eg re the recently announced closure of the Bell Bay manganese smelter:

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"To assist the devastated community, an employment hub was activated at the George Town Library, and both state and federal governments have established on-ground support services for affected workers.

Guess why the workers consider their loss of employment "devastating"...

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You are completely out of your mind.

Refuted above.....don't look in the mirror.

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Reply #2282 - Jul 17^th, 2026 at 12:54pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 17^th, 2026 at 11:57am:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 16^th, 2026 at 11:36pm:

In the 1950's 1960's governments around the world were saying that productivity would mean a 3 to 4 day work week for all. In reality the benifits all went to about 1% of people while wages were reduced in real terms. It was naive to think the benifits would be shared back then and a million percent less likely today. Musk is proof of this - just how much does he share from his Trillion dollars ? He is a prime example of the 1% & he will continue to keep it all.

As a matter of fact: (google)

In 1930, economist John Maynard Keynes predicted that by the year 2030, technological advancements would increase productivity enough to reduce the standard working week to just 15 hours. He theorized that humanity’s basic material needs would be easily met, making work mostly optional and shifting the human struggle to filling newfound leisure time.

He was wrong.....but Musk's predictions may prove to be right.

As for Musk: it's not a matter of an individual sharing his wealth with the community, it's
a matter of good government delivering the essentials for all.

And in the era of fiat currencies, we know the legal currency-issuer doesn't need taxpayer money to purchase the necessary resources (provided the resources exist).

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a matter of good government delivering the essentials for all

It has been precisely bad government that has meant that the technelogically driven productivity increases of the last 50 years was allowed to go to the Musk and co 1%. World wide government bribes is what led to the failure of benifits to be shared properly, Government abdicated their role and allowed the few to take the lot.

Hey but they did enjoy all those donations that we have all paid for. Yes big surprise that the same people who own the governments got all the benifits generated over more than half a century while joking about trickle down and such.

Trickle down is the fantasy that if you give all the money to rich people they will naturally just share it with their employees out of the goodness of their heart. This has been demonstrated over half a century where wage levels have been stagnant in real terms and buisness profits and top level wages have increased by many thousands of percent on the same measure over the same period.

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Reply #2283 - Jul 17^th, 2026 at 6:09pm

Dnarever wrote on Jul 17^th, 2026 at 12:54pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 17^th, 2026 at 11:57am:

[quote author=Jim_Puddle-Duck link=1660808671/2276#2276 date=1784208989]

In the 1950's 1960's governments around the world were saying that productivity would mean a 3 to 4 day work week for all. In reality the benifits all went to about 1% of people while wages were reduced in real terms. It was naive to think the benifits would be shared back then and a million percent less likely today. Musk is proof of this - just how much does he share from his Trillion dollars ? He is a prime example of the 1% & he will continue to keep it all.

As a matter of fact: (google)

In 1930, economist John Maynard Keynes predicted that by the year 2030, technological advancements would increase productivity enough to reduce the standard working week to just 15 hours. He theorized that humanity’s basic material needs would be easily met, making work mostly optional and shifting the human struggle to filling newfound leisure time.

He was wrong.....but Musk's predictions may prove to be right.

As for Musk: it's not a matter of an individual sharing his wealth with the community, it's
a matter of good government delivering the essentials for all.

And in the era of fiat currencies, we know the legal currency-issuer doesn't need taxpayer money to purchase the necessary resources (provided the resources exist).

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TGD: "a matter of good government delivering the essentials for all"

It has been precisely bad government that has meant that the technelogically driven productivity increases of the last 50 years was allowed to go to the Musk and co 1%.

Correct; whereas democratic socialists want good government "which works for all".

But while bobby bleats about "cultural Marxism" as the cause of govt. dysfunction in our time, you blame

"world wide government bribes leading to the failure of benifits to be shared properly, Government abdicated their role and allowed the few to take the lot, "

rather than addressing the actual cause, namely the systemic dysfunction following adoption of Friedman's Neoclassical monetary dogma in the 80s, which displaced the formerly successful Keynesian 'welfare state' era (1946-1970s).

Governments weren't "bribed", they were sold the 'free trade' cool-aide by laissez faire university-level economists, led by Friedman, who insisted government intervention destroys 'economic efficiency'. Politicians are inclined to accept the dominant tertiary economic schools because they know nothing about macro economics.

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Hey but they did enjoy all those donations that we have all paid for. Yes big surprise that the same people who own the governments got all the benifits generated over more than half a century while joking about trickle down and such.

Half right: the wealthy lobby governments to support the 'trickle down' economy, which benefits the wealthy.

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Trickle down is the fantasy that if you give all the money to rich people they will naturally just share it with their employees out of the goodness of their heart. This has been demonstrated over half a century where wage levels have been stagnant in real terms and buisness profits and top level wages have increased by many thousands of percent on the same measure over the same period.

Again half right: not out of the "goodness of their hearts", but because Neoclassical "non-interventionist" economic dogma benefitted the wealthy greatly.

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Reply #2284 - Jul 17^th, 2026 at 6:19pm

Mr. Saad offers a list of parasitic ideas that distort the way we think by denying or playing down objective truth: postmodernism, cultural relativism, social constructivism and “biophobia” (the fear of using biology to explain human behavior). “All of these idea-parasites were spawned on university campuses, in some esoteric humanities department,” he says. “But they’ve broken out of the ‘lab’ and have caused people to abandon their capacity to think properly.” Now “we’re adjudicating what constitutes being a man or a woman, when up until recently tens of billions of people who’d existed on earth were fully able to navigate that conundrum.”

Mr. Saad calls postmodernism “the granddaddy of all parasitic ideas.” That would make the great-granddaddy cultural relativism, the brainchild of German Jewish anthropologist Franz Boas (1858-1943). Boas and his acolytes argued, in Mr. Saad’s summary, that “there are no human universals. Every culture has to be judged in its own idiosyncratic reality.” For the West to “impose absolute deontological statements on a culture”—to hold a normatively ethical view of civilization—“is racist. Who are you to judge female genital mutilation? Honor killings? Child brides?”

To see how this leads to suicidal empathy, consider immigration. “We refuse to argue that some people stemming from certain cultures may be less likely to assimilate into the ethos of the Western tradition,” Mr. Saad says. “That feels non-empathetic. So we end up acting as if 500,000 new immigrants from Waziristan are the same as 500,000 from Denmark.”

Relativism leads to a toxic form of diversity. “People like Justin Trudeau”—Mr. Carney’s predecessor as prime minister—“believe that greater diversity results in only positive outcomes. And that’s just laughably, demonstrably false.” As an example, Mr. Saad says, “there shouldn’t be diversity in the West when it comes to what we do with gays. Gays should be allowed to flourish and live peacefully like anyone else.” And we don't want a society “where there is a debate and diversity as to whether Jews are cockroaches. But if you import millions of people who think that, then you will get that diversity of thought.”

Nothing sets Mr. Saad off more than postmodernism, “a dreadful idea” that came into vogue in the 1960s thanks to a trio of Frenchman, Jacques Derrida, Jacques Lacan and Michel Foucault. “Postmodernism purports that there are no objective truths, other than this one objective truth—that there are no objective truths.” That lays the ground for all the other parasitic ideas: “Men are women. Gaza is peaceful. Zionists are terrorists. Up is down.”

Only the West is suicidal in its empathy. Israel is mostly an exception, “because they don’t need anyone’s help to die. You don’t commit suicide when someone’s trying to kill you already.” The Japanese aren’t committing what Mr. Saad calls “civilizational seppuku,” even though the word for ritual suicide is theirs. Neither are the Chinese. “If I’m very self-assured about my cultural identity and heritage, I’m much less likely to succumb to suicidal empathy,” he says. “If you truly believe the West is built on stolen land, slavery, Islamophobia and genocide, then it makes perfect sense for me to kill my society because it’s so corrupt.”

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It’s no surprise that he admires President Trump, perhaps the least suicidally empathetic politician in the Western world. Can Mr. Trump and his administration turn the tables on the suicidal empathizers?

Mr. Saad fears not. “He’s only here for a limited time, right? So, he’s a doorstop, an ephemeral doorstop to the tsunami of suicidal empathy. If there isn’t a longer-lasting change that actually shifts the culture away from regarding suicidal empathy as the highest virtue, then Donald Trump will only have served as a pause button.” While it was “much better, in my view, that Trump won instead of the lobotomized one, there’s too much more that needs to be done.”

Still, the U.S., he says, is in much better shape than Canada, which is in a “Stage 5 state of civilizational seppuku—one higher than Stage 4, which is the worst stage of cancer.” Other countries that are as “doomed” as Canada include Sweden, Norway, the U.K. and Germany. Part of the problem is that the end of the Cold War has meant that Western societies no longer have to affirm their own values: “We no longer believe that we are exemplars, better than other societies.”

How far along is the process of civilizational seppuku? “Let’s say the ceremonial blade is 7 inches long. We already have it in 2 inches deep. Demography is destiny. Go to France, go to Britain, come to Canada. We are starting to disembowel ourselves.”

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Reply #2285 - Jul 17^th, 2026 at 7:01pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 17^th, 2026 at 11:57am:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 16^th, 2026 at 11:36pm:

In the 1950's 1960's governments around the world were saying that productivity would mean a 3 to 4 day work week for all. In reality the benifits all went to about 1% of people while wages were reduced in real terms. It was naive to think the benifits would be shared back then and a million percent less likely today. Musk is proof of this - just how much does he share from his Trillion dollars ? He is a prime example of the 1% & he will continue to keep it all.

As a matter of fact: (google)

In 1930, economist John Maynard Keynes predicted that by the year 2030, technological advancements would increase productivity enough to reduce the standard working week to just 15 hours. He theorized that humanity’s basic material needs would be easily met, making work mostly optional and shifting the human struggle to filling newfound leisure time.

He was wrong.....but Musk's predictions may prove to be right.

As for Musk: it's not a matter of an individual sharing his wealth with the community, it's
a matter of good government delivering the essentials for all.

And in the era of fiat currencies, we know the legal currency-issuer doesn't need taxpayer money to purchase the necessary resources (provided the resources exist).

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predicted that by the year 2030, technological advancements would increase productivity enough to reduce the standard working week to just 15 hours.

He was correct about the technological advancements and productivity increases, he was wrong to assume that workers would be allowed to share in the gains. He assumed that the one small group would completely corrupt government and be allowed to take the lot. He had assumed that government would continue to govern for the people and not just for big business.

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Reply #2286 - Jul 17^th, 2026 at 7:24pm

Frank wrote on Jul 17^th, 2026 at 6:19pm:

Mr. Saad offers a list of parasitic ideas that distort the way we think by denying or playing down objective truth: postmodernism, cultural relativism, social constructivism and “biophobia” (the fear of using biology to explain human behavior). “All of these idea-parasites were spawned on university campuses, in some esoteric humanities department,” he says. “But they’ve broken out of the ‘lab’ and have caused people to abandon their capacity to think properly.” Now “we’re adjudicating what constitutes being a man or a woman, when up until recently tens of billions of people who’d existed on earth were fully able to navigate that conundrum.”

haha .... he iike you (who asks questiions and then ignores the answers)ia an economic ignoramus who ignores the reality of external macroeconomics on people's living conditions - while the economy is churning out billionaires in a cost of living crisis - likes to pretend he understands why we have "abandoned our capacity to think properly.”

Pathetic.

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Mr. Saad calls postmodernism “the granddaddy of all parasitic ideas.” That would make the great-granddaddy cultural relativism, the brainchild of German Jewish anthropologist Franz Boas (1858-1943). Boas and his acolytes argued, in Mr. Saad’s summary, that “there are no human universals. Every culture has to be judged in its own idiosyncratic reality.” For the West to “impose absolute deontological statements on a culture”—to hold a normatively ethical view of civilization—“is racist. Who are you to judge female genital mutilation? Honor killings? Child brides?”

Of course there are human universals (as a result of possessing a conscious, reasoning cortex): eg, [i]morality, justice and fairness; but Saad's diversion to identity politics is as egregious as Boas' "relativism".

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Still, the U.S., he says, is in much better shape than Canada, which is in a “Stage 5 state of civilizational seppuku—one higher than Stage 4, which is the worst stage of cancer.” Other countries that are as “doomed” as Canada include Sweden, Norway, the U.K. and Germany. Part of the problem is that the end of the Cold War has meant that Western societies no longer have to affirm their own values: “We no longer believe that we are exemplars, better than other societies.”

I want to puke....

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...The billionaires club, while millions of chidren are dying in war and poverty. ....

...Trump not withstanding (!)...

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Reply #2287 - Jul 17^th, 2026 at 7:30pm

Dnarever wrote on Jul 17^th, 2026 at 7:01pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 17^th, 2026 at 11:57am:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 16^th, 2026 at 11:36pm:

In the 1950's 1960's governments around the world were saying that productivity would mean a 3 to 4 day work week for all. In reality the benifits all went to about 1% of people while wages were reduced in real terms. It was naive to think the benifits would be shared back then and a million percent less likely today. Musk is proof of this - just how much does he share from his Trillion dollars ? He is a prime example of the 1% & he will continue to keep it all.

As a matter of fact: (google)

In 1930, economist John Maynard Keynes predicted that by the year 2030, technological advancements would increase productivity enough to reduce the standard working week to just 15 hours. He theorized that humanity’s basic material needs would be easily met, making work mostly optional and shifting the human struggle to filling newfound leisure time.

He was wrong.....but Musk's predictions may prove to be right.

As for Musk: it's not a matter of an individual sharing his wealth with the community, it's
a matter of good government delivering the essentials for all.

And in the era of fiat currencies, we know the legal currency-issuer doesn't need taxpayer money to purchase the necessary resources (provided the resources exist).

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predicted that by the year 2030, technological advancements would increase productivity enough to reduce the standard working week to just 15 hours.

He was correct about the technological advancements and productivity increases, he was wrong to assume that workers would be allowed to share in the gains. He assumed that the one small group would completely corrupt government and be allowed to take the lot. He had assumed that government would continue to govern for the people and not just for big business.

OK, so how can govt. in fact "ensure workers share in the gains", to overcome corruption by "one small group"?

Tax the wealthy?

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Reply #2288 - Jul 17^th, 2026 at 8:51pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 17^th, 2026 at 7:24pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 17^th, 2026 at 6:19pm:

Mr. Saad offers a list of parasitic ideas that distort the way we think by denying or playing down objective truth: postmodernism, cultural relativism, social constructivism and “biophobia” (the fear of using biology to explain human behavior). “All of these idea-parasites were spawned on university campuses, in some esoteric humanities department,” he says. “But they’ve broken out of the ‘lab’ and have caused people to abandon their capacity to think properly.” Now “we’re adjudicating what constitutes being a man or a woman, when up until recently tens of billions of people who’d existed on earth were fully able to navigate that conundrum.”

haha .... he iike you (who asks questiions and then ignores the answers)ia an economic ignoramus who ignores the reality of external macroeconomics on people's living conditions - while the economy is churning out billionaires in a cost of living crisis - likes to pretend he understands why we have "abandoned our capacity to think properly.”

Pathetic.

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Mr. Saad calls postmodernism “the granddaddy of all parasitic ideas.” That would make the great-granddaddy cultural relativism, the brainchild of German Jewish anthropologist Franz Boas (1858-1943). Boas and his acolytes argued, in Mr. Saad’s summary, that “there are no human universals. Every culture has to be judged in its own idiosyncratic reality.” For the West to “impose absolute deontological statements on a culture”—to hold a normatively ethical view of civilization—“is racist. Who are you to judge female genital mutilation? Honor killings? Child brides?”

Of course there are human universals (as a result of possessing a conscious, reasoning cortex): eg, [i]morality, justice and fairness; but Saad's diversion to identity politics is as egregious as Boas' "relativism".

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Still, the U.S., he says, is in much better shape than Canada, which is in a “Stage 5 state of civilizational seppuku—one higher than Stage 4, which is the worst stage of cancer.” Other countries that are as “doomed” as Canada include Sweden, Norway, the U.K. and Germany. Part of the problem is that the end of the Cold War has meant that Western societies no longer have to affirm their own values: “We no longer believe that we are exemplars, better than other societies.”

I want to puke....

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Wall Street Journal

...The billionaires club, while millions of chidren are dying in war and poverty. ....

...Trump not withstanding (!)...

You are an idiot.

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Reply #2289 - Jul 17^th, 2026 at 10:26pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 17^th, 2026 at 7:30pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 17^th, 2026 at 7:01pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 17^th, 2026 at 11:57am:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 16^th, 2026 at 11:36pm:

In the 1950's 1960's governments around the world were saying that productivity would mean a 3 to 4 day work week for all. In reality the benifits all went to about 1% of people while wages were reduced in real terms. It was naive to think the benifits would be shared back then and a million percent less likely today. Musk is proof of this - just how much does he share from his Trillion dollars ? He is a prime example of the 1% & he will continue to keep it all.

As a matter of fact: (google)

In 1930, economist John Maynard Keynes predicted that by the year 2030, technological advancements would increase productivity enough to reduce the standard working week to just 15 hours. He theorized that humanity’s basic material needs would be easily met, making work mostly optional and shifting the human struggle to filling newfound leisure time.

He was wrong.....but Musk's predictions may prove to be right.

As for Musk: it's not a matter of an individual sharing his wealth with the community, it's
a matter of good government delivering the essentials for all.

And in the era of fiat currencies, we know the legal currency-issuer doesn't need taxpayer money to purchase the necessary resources (provided the resources exist).

Quote:

predicted that by the year 2030, technological advancements would increase productivity enough to reduce the standard working week to just 15 hours.

He was correct about the technological advancements and productivity increases, he was wrong to assume that workers would be allowed to share in the gains. He assumed that the one small group would completely corrupt government and be allowed to take the lot. He had assumed that government would continue to govern for the people and not just for big business.

OK, so how can govt. in fact "ensure workers share in the gains", to overcome corruption by "one small group"?

Tax the wealthy?

When you look at trickle down it was implimented by governments - they didn't have to.
Do you know the Liberals have opposed almost every cost of living increase in over 50 years ? Wonder why wages have been stagnant over the same period ? Government can reduce work hours but in reality they really didn't. etc. As you said they don't tax the wealthy. Every year many of the most profitable companies pay zero tax. Governments not only do not act on this but they go out of their way to allow additional reductions and tax work arounds. They don't act to make it better they act to make it worse and it isn't an accident.

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technological advancements would increase productivity

The fact that this did happen is well documented and undeniable, where the money went is also well documented and well known. Where it didn't go is the same. It is a fact that overall wages have been stagnant for over 50 years. This has been driven by government for the benifit of those who donate to them. This is how so few aere allowed to take so much and how so many were left behind. The corrupt relationship between the most wealthy and Governments world wide. In most countries the donors own the political parties on both sides.

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Reply #2290 - Jul 19^th, 2026 at 11:26am

Frank wrote on Jul 17^th, 2026 at 8:51pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 17^th, 2026 at 7:24pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 17^th, 2026 at 6:19pm:

Mr. Saad offers a list of parasitic ideas that distort the way we think by denying or playing down objective truth: postmodernism, cultural relativism, social constructivism and “biophobia” (the fear of using biology to explain human behavior). “All of these idea-parasites were spawned on university campuses, in some esoteric humanities department,” he says. “But they’ve broken out of the ‘lab’ and have caused people to abandon their capacity to think properly.” Now “we’re adjudicating what constitutes being a man or a woman, when up until recently tens of billions of people who’d existed on earth were fully able to navigate that conundrum.”

haha .... he iike you (who asks questiions and then ignores the answers)ia an economic ignoramus who ignores the reality of external macroeconomics on people's living conditions - while the economy is churning out billionaires in a cost of living crisis - likes to pretend he understands why we have "abandoned our capacity to think properly.”

Pathetic.

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Mr. Saad calls postmodernism “the granddaddy of all parasitic ideas.” That would make the great-granddaddy cultural relativism, the brainchild of German Jewish anthropologist Franz Boas (1858-1943). Boas and his acolytes argued, in Mr. Saad’s summary, that “there are no human universals. Every culture has to be judged in its own idiosyncratic reality.” For the West to “impose absolute deontological statements on a culture”—to hold a normatively ethical view of civilization—“is racist. Who are you to judge female genital mutilation? Honor killings? Child brides?”

Of course there are human universals (as a result of possessing a conscious, reasoning cortex): eg, [i]morality, justice and fairness; but Saad's diversion to identity politics is as egregious as Boas' "relativism".

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Still, the U.S., he says, is in much better shape than Canada, which is in a “Stage 5 state of civilizational seppuku—one higher than Stage 4, which is the worst stage of cancer.” Other countries that are as “doomed” as Canada include Sweden, Norway, the U.K. and Germany. Part of the problem is that the end of the Cold War has meant that Western societies no longer have to affirm their own values: “We no longer believe that we are exemplars, better than other societies.”

I want to puke....

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Wall Street Journal

...The billionaires club, while millions of chidren are dying in war and poverty. ....

...Trump not withstanding (!)...

You are an idiot.

Dear Frank, as others have noticed (!), you are notorious for resorting to abuse rather than addressing the issue at hand.

Have a go at exercising your brain.......eg:

I wrote

"Of course there are human universals (as a result of possessing a conscious, reasoning cortex): eg, morality, justice and fairness; but Saad's diversion to identity politics is as egregious as Boas' "relativism"."

Where's the "idiocy" in that statement?

Please explain......

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Reply #2291 - Jul 19^th, 2026 at 11:33am

thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 19^th, 2026 at 11:26am:

Frank wrote on Jul 17^th, 2026 at 8:51pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 17^th, 2026 at 7:24pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 17^th, 2026 at 6:19pm:

Mr. Saad offers a list of parasitic ideas that distort the way we think by denying or playing down objective truth: postmodernism, cultural relativism, social constructivism and “biophobia” (the fear of using biology to explain human behavior). “All of these idea-parasites were spawned on university campuses, in some esoteric humanities department,” he says. “But they’ve broken out of the ‘lab’ and have caused people to abandon their capacity to think properly.” Now “we’re adjudicating what constitutes being a man or a woman, when up until recently tens of billions of people who’d existed on earth were fully able to navigate that conundrum.”

haha .... he iike you (who asks questiions and then ignores the answers)ia an economic ignoramus who ignores the reality of external macroeconomics on people's living conditions - while the economy is churning out billionaires in a cost of living crisis - likes to pretend he understands why we have "abandoned our capacity to think properly.”

Pathetic.

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Mr. Saad calls postmodernism “the granddaddy of all parasitic ideas.” That would make the great-granddaddy cultural relativism, the brainchild of German Jewish anthropologist Franz Boas (1858-1943). Boas and his acolytes argued, in Mr. Saad’s summary, that “there are no human universals. Every culture has to be judged in its own idiosyncratic reality.” For the West to “impose absolute deontological statements on a culture”—to hold a normatively ethical view of civilization—“is racist. Who are you to judge female genital mutilation? Honor killings? Child brides?”

Of course there are human universals (as a result of possessing a conscious, reasoning cortex): eg, [i]morality, justice and fairness; but Saad's diversion to identity politics is as egregious as Boas' "relativism".

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Still, the U.S., he says, is in much better shape than Canada, which is in a “Stage 5 state of civilizational seppuku—one higher than Stage 4, which is the worst stage of cancer.” Other countries that are as “doomed” as Canada include Sweden, Norway, the U.K. and Germany. Part of the problem is that the end of the Cold War has meant that Western societies no longer have to affirm their own values: “We no longer believe that we are exemplars, better than other societies.”

I want to puke....

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Wall Street Journal

...The billionaires club, while millions of chidren are dying in war and poverty. ....

...Trump not withstanding (!)...

You are an idiot.

Dear Frank, as others have noticed (!), you are notorious for resorting to abuse rather than addressing the issue at hand.

Have a go at exercising your brain.......eg:

I wrote

"Of course there are human universals (as a result of possessing a conscious, reasoning cortex): eg, morality, justice and fairness; but Saad's diversion to identity politics is as egregious as Boas' "relativism"."

Where's the "idiocy" in that statement?

Please explain......

By the Frankian definition anyone who has an opinion different to his is an idiot.

Frank would make an excellent keeper of the definitions in any respectable ideocracy.

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Re: Cultural Marxism is everywhere.
Reply #2292 - Jul 19^th, 2026 at 11:49am

thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 19^th, 2026 at 11:26am:

Frank wrote on Jul 17^th, 2026 at 8:51pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 17^th, 2026 at 7:24pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 17^th, 2026 at 6:19pm:

Mr. Saad offers a list of parasitic ideas that distort the way we think by denying or playing down objective truth: postmodernism, cultural relativism, social constructivism and “biophobia” (the fear of using biology to explain human behavior). “All of these idea-parasites were spawned on university campuses, in some esoteric humanities department,” he says. “But they’ve broken out of the ‘lab’ and have caused people to abandon their capacity to think properly.” Now “we’re adjudicating what constitutes being a man or a woman, when up until recently tens of billions of people who’d existed on earth were fully able to navigate that conundrum.”

haha .... he iike you (who asks questiions and then ignores the answers)ia an economic ignoramus who ignores the reality of external macroeconomics on people's living conditions - while the economy is churning out billionaires in a cost of living crisis - likes to pretend he understands why we have "abandoned our capacity to think properly.”

Pathetic.

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Mr. Saad calls postmodernism “the granddaddy of all parasitic ideas.” That would make the great-granddaddy cultural relativism, the brainchild of German Jewish anthropologist Franz Boas (1858-1943). Boas and his acolytes argued, in Mr. Saad’s summary, that “there are no human universals. Every culture has to be judged in its own idiosyncratic reality.” For the West to “impose absolute deontological statements on a culture”—to hold a normatively ethical view of civilization—“is racist. Who are you to judge female genital mutilation? Honor killings? Child brides?”

Of course there are human universals (as a result of possessing a conscious, reasoning cortex): eg, [i]morality, justice and fairness; but Saad's diversion to identity politics is as egregious as Boas' "relativism".

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Still, the U.S., he says, is in much better shape than Canada, which is in a “Stage 5 state of civilizational seppuku—one higher than Stage 4, which is the worst stage of cancer.” Other countries that are as “doomed” as Canada include Sweden, Norway, the U.K. and Germany. Part of the problem is that the end of the Cold War has meant that Western societies no longer have to affirm their own values: “We no longer believe that we are exemplars, better than other societies.”

I want to puke....

Quote:

Wall Street Journal

...The billionaires club, while millions of chidren are dying in war and poverty. ....

...Trump not withstanding (!)...

You are an idiot.

Dear Frank, as others have noticed (!), you are notorious for resorting to abuse rather than addressing the issue at hand.

Have a go at exercising your brain.......eg:

I wrote

"Of course there are human universals (as a result of possessing a conscious, reasoning cortex): eg, morality, justice and fairness; but Saad's diversion to identity politics is as egregious as Boas' "relativism"."

Where's the "idiocy" in that statement?

Please explain......

You are an idiot because your responses (always the same) bear no relation to what has been said.
This is why parrot is such an apt moniked for you.

Look at the first section from my post on Saad and your 'response' to it: absolute zero connection. Your response to a set of ideas is to say 'oh, he ignored macroeconomics and billionnaires'
You have a set of lines, a set of manias - money printing, one party state, every idea not your own is lizerd brained, 'addressed above' (meaning avoided/misunderstood above) - and you dish them out in responsd to everything, no matter how unconnected they are to your monomanias. You have zero capacity for critical reglection, or even for comprehending ideas that are not identical to your parroting.

This is why call you an idiot.

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Re: Cultural Marxism is everywhere.
Reply #2293 - Jul 19^th, 2026 at 12:40pm

Dnarever wrote on Jul 17^th, 2026 at 10:26pm:

When you look at trickle down it was implimented by governments - they didn't have to.

Governments do what the dominant economic school tells them to do; eg, Keynesianism (1946 - 1970s) was displaced by Neoclassicism (1980s to the present).

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Do you know the Liberals have opposed almost every cost of living increase in over 50 years ?

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Everyone opposes cost of living increases, especially when mean wages are stagnant.

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Wonder why wages have been stagnant over the same period ?

The Thatcher/Reagan 'free-market' ideology destroyed unions' abilities to fight for higher wages.

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Government can reduce work hours but in reality they really didn't. etc. As you said they don't tax the wealthy. Every year many of the most profitable companies pay zero tax. Governments not only do not act on this but they go out of their way to allow additional reductions and tax work arounds. They don't act to make it better they act to make it worse and it isn't an accident.

Yes; but you persist in blaming governments when economists, ie post-Keynesian, Neoclassical economists, are responsible for bad government policies such as privatization and lower government spending.

[Keynesian deficit spending economics was swept aside by the Arab oil embargos in the 70s embargos which destroyed the cost structure in the West and led to 'stagflation'. But Neoclassical economics which displaced Keynesianism has its own contradictions, which the world is facing now in a c-o-l crisis].

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The fact that (technological advancements would increase productivity)
did happen is well documented and undeniable

Yes, both Keynes I and eveyone agrees with you....and Musk rekons it won't be long before work is optional (due to the productivty advances of the coming AI revolution).

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where the money went is also well documented and well known.

The money went from workers to capitalists (as union power was smashed, beginning with Thatcher), and government spending was constrained from raising taxes - "other people's money" according to Thatcher - required to deliver essential public services; hence the run down of public services we see today (public housing, free uni etc)

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Where it didn't go is the same.

Addressed above.

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It is a fact that overall wages have been stagnant for over 50 years. This has been driven by government for the benifit of those who donate to them.

Rich capitalists, aided by Neoclassical free-market orthodoxy, fight unions and lobby/donate to government.

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This is how so few aere allowed to take so much and how so many were left behind. The corrupt relationship between the most wealthy and Governments world wide. In most countries the donors own the political parties on both sides.

Yes, except centre-Left parties are now wedded to the same Neoclassical orthodoxy as centre Right parties, and the electorate is saying 'a pox on both parties'....

You still haven't answered the question: failing authorization of Treasury to issue fiat money to fund government (google it), how much do you want to tax the wealthy?

Gary Stevenson (youtube) admits his proposal for a 2% tax increase on the very wealthy won't be sufficient to reverse increasing extreme inequality.

And nations haven't worked out (or agreed) how to stop the very wealthy from shifting their wealth to overseas tax shelters, despite Thomas Picketty's work on the subject (google it).

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Re: Cultural Marxism is everywhere.
Reply #2294 - Jul 20^th, 2026 at 12:37pm

It seems Burnham might actually tax wealth...is he a 'cultural Marxist?

(Daily Mail)

Burnham's new strategy chief backed 'highly popular' wealth tax

Andy Burnham has stoked fresh fears he will introduce a punitive wealth tax after making a major supporter of the idea his No10 strategy chief.

Matthew McGregor, who was appointed on Friday, said that hitting ("hitting" ....?) people with more than £10million in assets with the levy would be 'a highly popular way' of raising £24billion for the Treasury.

"Fresh fears"? ......about reducing inequality and poverty in the UK?

Pathetic reporting.

Mr Burnham declined to rule out introducing a wealth tax on Wednesday, telling Gary Lineker's Goalhanger podcast: 'I do believe we need a greater sense of fairness and people feeling that things are being done in the right way and a fair way.

'But at the same time, you know, I don't want to sort of be perceived as somebody who's coming in with grudges and agendas and, you know, going to just immediately find or demonise one group or create a new way of dividing people.'

Burnham wants to please everyone, but if he doesn't have the nous to utilize the currency-issuing capacity of the UK Treasury, he will have to risk the scorn of the greedy rich....

In 2024 Mr McGregor was also among the signatories of an open letter to Chancellor Rachel Reeves demanding a wealth tax to pay for the impact of climate change.

'Just as the government is using windfall taxes on the extortionate profits of oil and gas companies to help fairly fund our transition to clean energy, it is only fair that super-rich individuals – who possess vast wealth and are the biggest emitters – are also taxed more on their assets to ensure we successfully and fairly tackle the climate crisis and ultimately create a society that is more equal and just,' it said.

Other signatories included the CEOs of Greenpeace and Friends of the Earth, and it was endorced by the trade union Unite

"Cultural Marxists", all of them....

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