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Reply #2190 - Jun 22^nd, 2026 at 1:10pm

Dnarever wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2026 at 12:50pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 16^th, 2026 at 1:40pm:

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Will redistribute to someone who didn't

While this is untrue the right do literally redistribute to the more wealthy, I guess you prefer that. Every singe tax policy as example will take money from the poor and give it to the wealthy.

Look at Trumps tax cuts ?
Look at the unafordable Howard tax cuts ?

Time after time its always been the same.

Look at the theory of trickle down ecanomics. - The theory basically is to give money to the wealthy and somehow they will from nothing but the goodness of their heart trickle it down to the people with less ?

Nobody believes that this has ever in reality happened.
It is so absurd a theory it is little more than a joke but it is consistently used to justify conservative governments giving money to the wealthy.

Reverse Robin Hood is a consistant reality in conservative policy and politics.

So comrade - Marxism is the answer?

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Reply #2191 - Jun 22^nd, 2026 at 11:16pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2026 at 1:10pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2026 at 12:50pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 16^th, 2026 at 1:40pm:

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Will redistribute to someone who didn't

While this is untrue the right do literally redistribute to the more wealthy, I guess you prefer that. Every singe tax policy as example will take money from the poor and give it to the wealthy.

Look at Trumps tax cuts ?
Look at the unafordable Howard tax cuts ?

Time after time its always been the same.

Look at the theory of trickle down ecanomics. - The theory basically is to give money to the wealthy and somehow they will from nothing but the goodness of their heart trickle it down to the people with less ?

Nobody believes that this has ever in reality happened.
It is so absurd a theory it is little more than a joke but it is consistently used to justify conservative governments giving money to the wealthy.

Reverse Robin Hood is a consistant reality in conservative policy and politics.

So comrade - Marxism is the answer?

Australia once had a healthy combination of Market capitalism mixed with solid social policy. The best civilisations seem to be a sensible mix, too much of either is always a problem.

Australia has drifted to far to the right over the last 4 decades or so we have lost a lot of our social protections and subject to fairly harsh workplace conditions and lost services and utilities.

Marxism was a ecanomic philosophy that functionaly died around 200 years ago and had never been put into practise. There is virtually no such thing as Marxism in the western world Except for Groucho Marxists like myself.

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Reply #2192 - Jun 22^nd, 2026 at 11:26pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2026 at 1:10pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2026 at 12:50pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 16^th, 2026 at 1:40pm:

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Will redistribute to someone who didn't

While this is untrue the right do literally redistribute to the more wealthy, I guess you prefer that. Every singe tax policy as example will take money from the poor and give it to the wealthy.

Look at Trumps tax cuts ?
Look at the unafordable Howard tax cuts ?

Time after time its always been the same.

Look at the theory of trickle down ecanomics. - The theory basically is to give money to the wealthy and somehow they will from nothing but the goodness of their heart trickle it down to the people with less ?

Nobody believes that this has ever in reality happened.
It is so absurd a theory it is little more than a joke but it is consistently used to justify conservative governments giving money to the wealthy.

Reverse Robin Hood is a consistant reality in conservative policy and politics.

So comrade - Marxism is the answer?

You seem to prefer government to take money away from you and give it to the most wealthy people, So many people here in this same boat. I really don't get it.

I have been in closed rooms with genuine conservatives and I can tell you guys that the real righties laugh at you guys - you will never be one of them in their view.

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Reply #2193 - Jun 22^nd, 2026 at 11:33pm

Did you know that the original Democratic-republican party became the modern democratic party. Not the old Democratic party and that the republican party started about 30 years later.

At first sight it is easy to think that the old Democratic-Republican party became the republican party when they became undemocratic but that isnt what happened.

Aparently the Republican party was laways undemocratic.

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Reply #2194 - Jun 22^nd, 2026 at 11:37pm

Dnarever wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2026 at 11:26pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2026 at 1:10pm:

So comrade - Marxism is the answer?

You seem to prefer government to take money away from you and give it to the most wealthy people, So many people here in this same boat. I really don't get it.

I have been in closed rooms with genuine conservatives and I can tell you guys that the real righties laugh at you guys - you will never be one of them in their view.

I am not rich but I'm not poor either.
I get by after a lifetime of creating $millions in taxes for Govts to fritter away.

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Reply #2195 - Jun 23^rd, 2026 at 11:54am

Bobby. wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2026 at 11:37pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2026 at 11:26pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2026 at 1:10pm:

So comrade - Marxism is the answer?

You seem to prefer government to take money away from you and give it to the most wealthy people, So many people here in this same boat. I really don't get it.

I have been in closed rooms with genuine conservatives and I can tell you guys that the real righties laugh at you guys - you will never be one of them in their view.

I am not rich but I'm not poor either.
I get by after a lifetime of creating $millions in taxes for Govts to fritter away.

The only difference is if you want it all to go to the wealthy or for a very small amount to go into somewhat socially helpful areas and the rest to go to the wealthy. Remember that is is the wealthy corposations that pay for and own both political entities. Neither the left or right will bite the hand that feeds them.

In tax for instance you see the right give tax breaks exclusivly to the wealthy and the Left doing it more accross the board - some to the lower wage levels but a lot to the wealthy.

(my keyboard seems to be typing the wrong letters I don't think it is my fingers doing it - almost every post I am correcting. Probably missing some.) Hope my brain isn't doing a Trump.

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Reply #2196 - Jun 23^rd, 2026 at 11:59am

Bobby. wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2026 at 11:37pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2026 at 11:26pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2026 at 1:10pm:

So comrade - Marxism is the answer?

You seem to prefer government to take money away from you and give it to the most wealthy people, So many people here in this same boat. I really don't get it.

I have been in closed rooms with genuine conservatives and I can tell you guys that the real righties laugh at you guys - you will never be one of them in their view.

I am not rich but I'm not poor either.
I get by after a lifetime of creating $millions in taxes for Govts to fritter away.

Thats the point - why do so many people in our position set out to support the group that are activly trying as hard as they can to screw us. We are the people who they have activly targeted to disadvantage for many decades.

You are the guy the Libs say trickle down will help as they turn into a corner chuckle and snicker their miserable heads off at their joke. Yes I was there they do think it is halarious.

People in our position are the people that they joke about and laugh about. I know I have been in the room.

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Reply #2198 - Jun 23^rd, 2026 at 12:04pm

Dnarever wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2026 at 11:54am:

The only difference is if you want it all to go to the wealthy or for a very small amount to go into somewhat socially helpful areas and the rest to go to the wealthy. Remember that is is the wealthy corposations that pay for and own both political entities. Neither the left or right will bite the hand that feeds them.

In tax for instance you see the right give tax breaks exclusivly to the wealthy and the Left doing it more accross the board - some to the lower wage levels but a lot to the wealthy.

(my keyboard seems to be typing the wrong letters I don't think it is my fingers doing it - almost every post I am correcting. Probably missing some.) Hope my brain isn't doing a Trump.

Everyone gets slugged these days - from the lowly worker to the wealthiest worker.
Payroll tax is one example -
it's money you can't get paid by your employer because the Govt. takes it.

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Reply #2199 - Jun 23^rd, 2026 at 4:08pm

The results of cultural Marxism in the UK?

Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And weak men create hard times.

100 years ago, the British Empire ruled a quarter of the earth.

Today? Factories gone, energy costs crushing families, borders wide open, and a political class that punishes its own citizens for noticing.

Big jump from 25% of the world to less than 0.1%.

This is what national decline actually looks like, and it happened FAST.

They weren’t conquered from outside — they were hollowed out from within by weak leaders who betrayed their own people and allowed the enemy through the gate.

That’s what happens when you abandon your countrymen, your culture, and your beliefs.

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Reply #2200 - Jun 23^rd, 2026 at 6:27pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2026 at 4:08pm:

The results of cultural Marxism in the UK?

Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And weak men create hard times.

100 years ago, the British Empire ruled a quarter of the earth.

Today? Factories gone, energy costs crushing families, borders wide open, and a political class that punishes its own citizens for noticing.

Big jump from 25% of the world to less than 0.1%.

This is what national decline actually looks like, and it happened FAST.

They weren’t conquered from outside — they were hollowed out from within by weak leaders who betrayed their own people and allowed the enemy through the gate.

That’s what happens when you abandon your countrymen, your culture, and your beliefs.

The British empire was world domination by invasion. In recent times they gave most of these countries back to thair owners. This had nothing to do with failure and less to do with Marxism - that claim is just silly. In fact though not related at the peak of Marxism the UK basically ruled the world and they have wound back from the 1900's when Marxism was in decline to the point that it didn't really exist.

Basically the opposite of your claim even though in reality it had nothing to do with either.

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Reply #2201 - Jun 23^rd, 2026 at 7:55pm

Dnarever wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2026 at 6:27pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2026 at 4:08pm:

The results of cultural Marxism in the UK?

Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And weak men create hard times.

100 years ago, the British Empire ruled a quarter of the earth.

Today? Factories gone, energy costs crushing families, borders wide open, and a political class that punishes its own citizens for noticing.

Big jump from 25% of the world to less than 0.1%.

This is what national decline actually looks like, and it happened FAST.

They weren’t conquered from outside — they were hollowed out from within by weak leaders who betrayed their own people and allowed the enemy through the gate.

That’s what happens when you abandon your countrymen, your culture, and your beliefs.

The British empire was world domination by invasion. In recent times they gave most of these countries back to thair owners. This had nothing to do with failure and less to do with Marxism - that claim is just silly. In fact though not related at the peak of Marxism the UK basically ruled the world and they have wound back from the 1900's when Marxism was in decline to the point that it didn't really exist.

Basically the opposite of your claim even though in reality it had nothing to do with either.

Silly duckwittery. Marxism was at its peak from 1917 - Rusdian revolution, have you heard of it, duckwit?

Third world national liberation movements were very strongly Marxist, and not just in British colonies. Latin American liberation theology is the must mature expression of the use of Marxism in local, in the case of latin America Catholic, cultural frames.
Marxism is a method - dialectical and historical materialism - and as such a method ot is eminently adaptable. And so it IS adapted. In politics, culture, arts, social analysis. As a method, it is everywhere.

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Reply #2202 - Jun 23^rd, 2026 at 8:36pm

Frank wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2026 at 7:55pm:

Silly duckwittery. Marxism was at its peak from 1917 - Rusdian revolution, have you heard of it, duckwit?

Third world national liberation movements were very strongly Marxist, and not just in British colonies. Latin American liberation theology is the must mature expression of the use of Marxism in local, in the case of latin America Catholic, cultural frames.
Marxism is a method - dialectical and historical materialism - and as such a method ot is eminently adaptable. And so it IS adapted. In politics, culture, arts, social analysis. As a method, it is everywhere.

And we have Labor, the ABC the SBS and all local councils -
promulgating Marxism -

they tell you all the time what to do, what to think, what to feel -
you wanna work 8, 10 hours a day - you've got nothing, you own nothing? -
you want a "chivato", an informer on every corner,
watching everything you do, everything you say?

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Reply #2203 - Jun 23^rd, 2026 at 8:48pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2026 at 12:04pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2026 at 11:54am:

The only difference is if you want it all to go to the wealthy or for a very small amount to go into somewhat socially helpful areas and the rest to go to the wealthy. Remember that is is the wealthy corposations that pay for and own both political entities. Neither the left or right will bite the hand that feeds them.

In tax for instance you see the right give tax breaks exclusivly to the wealthy and the Left doing it more accross the board - some to the lower wage levels but a lot to the wealthy.

(my keyboard seems to be typing the wrong letters I don't think it is my fingers doing it - almost every post I am correcting. Probably missing some.) Hope my brain isn't doing a Trump.

Everyone gets slugged these days - from the lowly worker to the wealthiest worker.
Payroll tax is one example -
it's money you can't get paid by your employer because the Govt. takes it.

You think employers would give that money to employees if they didn't have to give it to the government?

Grin

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Reply #2204 - Jun 23^rd, 2026 at 9:23pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2026 at 8:48pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2026 at 12:04pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2026 at 11:54am:

The only difference is if you want it all to go to the wealthy or for a very small amount to go into somewhat socially helpful areas and the rest to go to the wealthy. Remember that is is the wealthy corposations that pay for and own both political entities. Neither the left or right will bite the hand that feeds them.

In tax for instance you see the right give tax breaks exclusivly to the wealthy and the Left doing it more accross the board - some to the lower wage levels but a lot to the wealthy.

(my keyboard seems to be typing the wrong letters I don't think it is my fingers doing it - almost every post I am correcting. Probably missing some.) Hope my brain isn't doing a Trump.

Everyone gets slugged these days - from the lowly worker to the wealthiest worker.
Payroll tax is one example -
it's money you can't get paid by your employer because the Govt. takes it.

You think employers would give that money to employees if they didn't have to give it to the government?

Grin

Yes - I got reminded of it at every pay review and also
by the accountant in a little chat we had once.
The topic? -
how much it cost to employ me.

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