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Do you actually think there will be a positive benefit?

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Seems very harsh for waving a flag? 


Criminals get less for stabbing someone.

Bias_2012 wrote on Aug 12^th, 2022 at 8:53pm:



People born with Nazi Disease usually have no idea they are carrying it... we get one or two here... often purporting to be of the 'woke left', but whose every action and behaviour is Nazi to the core...

Belgarion wrote on Aug 12^th, 2022 at 8:02pm:

I have to disagree.  The public display of any/all Nazi symbolism has nothing
at all to do with anybody's "freedom of expression".  Quite the contrary in
fact—the swastika is a symbol of oppression, tyranny, and suffering.

And there's no evidence that banning the swastika becomes "more attractive"
to other disaffected people.  That's simply wishful thinking by those who support
its display in public—for whatever bizarre reasons.

AusGeoff wrote on Aug 13^th, 2022 at 9:56am:


The law will not change people's perception of it. At least, not in the way you want.

You don't seem to be aware of what we are discussing. What positive benefit do you see from the ban in terms of the popularity of right wing extremism, and how do you think the law will achieve them?

What have we actually gained from abandoning freedom of speech?

AusGeoff wrote on Aug 12^th, 2022 at 7:44pm:


Actually I've got no problem with that. As a mother to 4 beautiful children I do not want them seeing shyte like that today AFTER ALL that's happened BECAUSE of that flag. Also as an Aunty to 4 nieces and nephews who are half Jewish (my husband's sister is married to a Jewish scientist) there's no way I'd want to see such a terrible visual prompt for them because these kids know that they have great grandparents who were personally affected by what that flag stood for.

If people don't get that visual prompts function as traumatic triggers then that's on them to learn more before they pass judgement. 

Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 13^th, 2022 at 1:55pm:



Hi Lisa,
it's an idea that cultural Marxists came up with as one part of their
left wing, woke, gay, virtue signalling, multicultural propaganda.
They are giving their ideas teeth and claws.
Expect to see more of it.

AusGeoff wrote on Aug 13^th, 2022 at 10:13am:


You are very naive, you have a lot to learn. Tell me what happened to the baby born with two heads in the Northern Territory - We must be eternally vigilant against tyranny

From small things, big things grow, and if we don't call out Nazi behaviour from within our society and Parliament, it can get worse. Banning is something the German Nazis did a lot of, they banned everything they didn't like. So banning is Nazi behaviour, tyrannical behaviour

Bob Menzies tried to ban the Communist Party, and the People said "NO", and rightly so ... eventually the Communist Party died a natural death in Australia. Menzies was trying to do exactly what the German Nazis did ... and he was acting like a Nazi and he got called out on it. The People were vigilant, to protect free speech

Menzies re-started conscription in the early 60s, and the similarities between the way it was handled it, and with Nazism, was striking. I posted an innocent topic in the "Philosophy" board about those similarities called "Conscripts and Jews Compared", but it got banned (deleted), at least my thorough hour long search failed to find it. The topic listed familiar tactics the Nazis used to get Jews to comply, which then, the Liberal Government used to get Conscripts to comply - cruel and unusual punishment inflicted upon innocent people. Read about Simon Townsend's punishment, there was no empathy, no compassion, and no humility. Our enemy was not the North Vietnamese (whoever they were at the time), our enemy was the Nazi Liberal Party Government

And if you are a very wise and smart thinker, they still are, they still treat [ex]conscripts the way they did in the 60s ... Nazi like

Public hospitals need to wake up too, there's plenty of Nazi creatures without empathy or compassion who call themselves nurses, doctors, and managers there as well

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What is your problem with the statement?

And you are still avoiding the question: What positive benefit do you see from the ban in terms of the popularity of right wing extremism, and how do you think the law will achieve it?

You are naive because you think there will be an actual benefit from this.

What positive benefit do you see from the ban in terms of the popularity of right wing extremism, and how do you think the law will achieve it?

freediver wrote on Aug 13^th, 2022 at 2:48pm:

Easy... your claim is absurd.

freediver wrote on Aug 13^th, 2022 at 2:48pm:

Well, I thought it would've been obvious what the positives were from
banning the swastika in public.  I'm guessing you're either very young,
or not a student of German history and the insidious rise of Nazism.

Do you truly want to support that distorted, ultra-socialist lifestyle in
Australia by allowing people to potentially flood our streets with its
inherent symbolism of oppression and tyranny?   Sad really.

AusGeoff wrote on Aug 13^th, 2022 at 3:08pm:


Are you having difficulty understanding the question? Flapping your arms while you speak isn't going to help you.

What positive benefit do you see from the ban in terms of the popularity of right wing extremism, and how do you think the law will achieve it?

Bias_2012 wrote on Aug 13^th, 2022 at 3:35pm:



LOL.

Captain Caveman wrote on Aug 14^th, 2022 at 4:58am:



Yes, banning is a Nazi act to begin with

Is the Hammer & Sickle symbol banned? It's just as bad, or worse

Bias_2012 wrote on Aug 14^th, 2022 at 12:30pm:

LOL... it's more than obvious now in your defence of carrying the Nazi symbol
that you have not the faintest notion of its history as utilised by the repressive,
racist German national socialists from 1920 until the end of WW2, that saw
millions of innocent civilians killed in cold blood.

I'll excuse your ignorance on the basis of your apparent youth, but as you grow
into a mature, thinking adult, you'll no doubt change your unenlightened opinion.

AusGeoff wrote on Aug 14^th, 2022 at 1:51pm:


Are you having difficulty understanding the question? Flapping your arms while you speak isn't going to help you.

What positive benefit do you see from the ban in terms of the popularity of right wing extremism, and how do you think the law will achieve it?

Frank wrote on Aug 14^th, 2022 at 2:32pm:


As I'm sure you know, the swastika is an ancient religious symbol,
predominantly in various Eurasian, as well as some African and
native American cultures, and is still used as a symbol of divinity
and spirituality in the Hinduism, Buddhism and Jainism religions.

It was appropriated by the Nazi Party and by current neo-Nazis as
emblematic of the Aryan race.  It continues to be strongly associated
with antisemitism and white supremacism.   Which is why it should
be banned.

I also can't believe that you seem to consider Nazism acceptable in
"certain circumstances". If you do, then you might like to reread a
few WW2 history books for a better perspective on its horrors.

AusGeoff wrote on Aug 15^th, 2022 at 7:54pm:

Don't be an idiot just because you can be.  I did say, 'certain circumstances':  discussing nazism and the swastika in the context of history, Indian philosophy, intellectual development (the stuff you are proudly ignorant of), history, philosophy (ouch!! ouch!!), sources and antecedents, results, aftermaths, etc.

Topics for discussion. Discussion, examination, reflection, study, etc, etc are NOT acceptance.  FFS.

Reading the sort of comments such as those from Frank and Freediver (above)
I'm surprised at their apparent tolerance of the white supremacist's use of
the repellent symbolism of the swastika, and Nazism.

Following Nazi Germany’s defeat in 1945, subsequent German governments
continued the ban on Nazi symbols and propaganda, including the swastika.
Today in Germany and other European states, public display of Nazi symbols,
including on the Internet, is prohibited by law and individuals violating such
terms are subject to criminal proceedings.

I can only hope that these two are simply taking the piss;  I'd hate to think
they were serious.

AusGeoff wrote on Aug 15^th, 2022 at 9:24pm:

Ignorant, parochial.


The swastika is not the same in Poland and India. Nazism is not the same in Germany, Poland, France etc that lived under it as it is in Australia, or the US or UK that defeated it.

You are ignorant. Don't flaunt it.

So you don't think the banning will have any effect on any right wing groups?

AusGeoff wrote on Aug 15^th, 2022 at 9:24pm:



Surprised? 

Oh wait, you're still fairly new here

John Smith wrote on Aug 16^th, 2022 at 7:11pm:


I would think so, yes.

John Smith wrote on Aug 16^th, 2022 at 7:11pm:


Does it also mean that lefty street protestors, protesting against righties, will be breaking the law if they display the swastika to denigrate the righties?

Frank wrote on Aug 16^th, 2022 at 10:30pm:


That's actually not a swastika.  It's a Hindu religious symbol on
the Goa Lawah Temple in Indonesia.  Nothing to do with Nazism.

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greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 17^th, 2022 at 5:52pm:



Hard to believe that's an oversight isn't it.

mothra wrote on Aug 17^th, 2022 at 6:29pm:


VERY hard to believe.

AusGeoff wrote on Aug 17^th, 2022 at 4:47pm:


You don't think being martyrs for freedom of expression might help their image?

Why did this even go to trial?

Wagga Wagga man charged with displaying Nazi symbols over shopfront poster

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-07-11/wagga-wagga-man-charged-with-displaying-nazi-symbols/105520548

A man has been charged under recently introduced laws banning the display of Nazi symbols over a shopfront poster depicting Coalition politicians and Australian billionaires as German World War II soldiers.

The display, a series of posters depicting then-opposition leader Peter Dutton, former deputy prime minister Michael McCormack, and miners Gina Rinehart and Clive Palmer dressed as Nazis, appeared in a Wagga Wagga shop window during the March federal Election campaign.

On March 31, police were alerted to the business storefront display on the city's main street.

At the time, police told the ABC that it had sought legal advice, and it was determined the display did not break the Australian Criminal Code.

On Tuesday July 8 "following further inquiries", police charged the 69-year-old with knowingly displaying Nazi symbols without an excuse.

NSW hate crime laws were passed in February this year in response to an increase in hate speech and a string of anti-Semitic incidents in the state.

The shop owner was served a court attendance notice to appear on August 20.

McCormack slams posters of himself, Dutton, Rinehart and Palmer in Nazi uniforms

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-04-01/former-deputy-pm-slams-nazi-posters-wagga-shopfront/105121020

https://live-production.wcms.abc-cdn.net.au/e8c0270cf56b080fafc7144102922bed

Former Deputy Prime Minister Michael McCormack has slammed a display in a storefront window in southern New South Wales that depicts Coalition politicians and billionaires as Nazis.

The series of posters portrays Mr McCormack, Opposition Leader Peter Dutton, and business leaders Gina Rinehart and Clive Palmer in German World War II army uniforms.

The posters are on display in a storefront on Wagga Wagga's main street.

Mr McCormack, the Member for Riverina, which includes Wagga Wagga, slammed the display.

Mr McCormack said on social media he was pictured alongside the Opposition leader and "mining magnates" in "World War II-era German uniform … Iron Cross medals and Nazi eagle emblems have also been added".

He said he had alerted Mr Dutton's office about the display.

"He's not going to get bogged down with some vile window in a country main street that shouldn't have happened in the first place," he said.

A pixelated version of Mr McCormack's poster has since replaced the initial image of him.

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Aug 20^th, 2025 at 7:50pm:


Or a Finnish one?  They belted the Russians, you know...and breed fine women...

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Aug 20^th, 2025 at 8:59pm:


Wait until they see our fins in the water.... it's coming to a head ...

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Aug 20^th, 2025 at 7:50pm:



And how do they tell the difference between hailing a taxi and
using a Nazi salute?

The Mind Boggled at 'NSW Second State' - how many separate and  (gasps) sovereign 'states' is it now?

The New State of Northunter ... stretching from the Hunter River and a parallel from its source to the borders with Queenslund and south australia - as the first stop in splitting up the over-fat and controlled by central city government  (Capital City in Hunger Games) state of NSW - now long outdated with modern travel and technology and population growth - into more manageable regional states with more interest in their own real issues and not those of city Slickers and Grifters.

I'll map that First Step up for yez..

NSW,
Newcastle, Sydney and Wollongong.

How does one tell the difference between a Finnish swastika and a German one?