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Re: NSW Second State to Ban Nazi Symbols
Reply #15 - Aug 13th, 2022 at 2:45pm
 
AusGeoff wrote on Aug 13th, 2022 at 10:13am:
Bias_2012 wrote on Aug 12th, 2022 at 8:53pm:
As long as they understand it's a symbol of extreme socialism. I'm surprised though that the Liberal Party is joining in to ban it, they were doing what the Nazis did when they conscripted thousands of young blokes in the 60s, taking them off to camps and treated them like dirt, giving them nothing and throwing them on the waste heap when they'd finished exploiting them. I've never voted for the Nazi Liberal coalition, and never will, (nor the ALP)

Nazi symbols wouldn't be out of place outside Public Hospitals, for all the people they've killed, my mother included. They kill children as well, just like Dr Mengele, Karl Brandt, Carl Clauberg did in Nazi Germany ... mercy killings

You can ban the symbols, but you can't take the "Nazi" out of the politicians who are born that way


I'm sorry, but this has to be one of the most absurd, fanciful, injudicious
comments I've read here on this topic!

Do you really believe this sort of bullshit, or are you just stirring the pot?




You are very naive, you have a lot to learn. Tell me what happened to the baby born with two heads in the Northern Territory - We must be eternally vigilant against tyranny

From small things, big things grow, and if we don't call out Nazi behaviour from within our society and Parliament, it can get worse. Banning is something the German Nazis did a lot of, they banned everything they didn't like. So banning is Nazi behaviour, tyrannical behaviour

Bob Menzies tried to ban the Communist Party, and the People said "NO", and rightly so ... eventually the Communist Party died a natural death in Australia. Menzies was trying to do exactly what the German Nazis did ... and he was acting like a Nazi and he got called out on it. The People were vigilant, to protect free speech

Menzies re-started conscription in the early 60s, and the similarities between the way it was handled it, and with Nazism, was striking. I posted an innocent topic in the "Philosophy" board about those similarities called "Conscripts and Jews Compared", but it got banned (deleted), at least my thorough hour long search failed to find it. The topic listed familiar tactics the Nazis used to get Jews to comply, which then, the Liberal Government used to get Conscripts to comply - cruel and unusual punishment inflicted upon innocent people. Read about Simon Townsend's punishment, there was no empathy, no compassion, and no humility. Our enemy was not the North Vietnamese (whoever they were at the time), our enemy was the Nazi Liberal Party Government

And if you are a very wise and smart thinker, they still are, they still treat [ex]conscripts the way they did in the 60s ... Nazi like

Public hospitals need to wake up too, there's plenty of Nazi creatures without empathy or compassion who call themselves nurses, doctors, and managers there as well



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Re: NSW Second State to Ban Nazi Symbols
Reply #16 - Aug 13th, 2022 at 2:46pm
 
freediver wrote on Aug 13th, 2022 at 11:02am:
...What have we actually gained from abandoning freedom of speech?

LOL... are you taking the piss?

Banning the public display of the swastika is denying freedom of speech?  Seriously?

What about jailing people for distributing 3D child pornography to receptive,
paying customers? Isn't that also denying the pornographers their freedom
of speech?  After all, they're just pictures—like the swastika—so they can't
really harm anybody can they.


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Re: NSW Second State to Ban Nazi Symbols
Reply #17 - Aug 13th, 2022 at 2:48pm
 
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Banning the public display of the swastika is denying freedom of speech?  Seriously?


What is your problem with the statement?

And you are still avoiding the question: What positive benefit do you see from the ban in terms of the popularity of right wing extremism, and how do you think the law will achieve it?
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Re: NSW Second State to Ban Nazi Symbols
Reply #18 - Aug 13th, 2022 at 3:00pm
 
Bias_2012 wrote on Aug 13th, 2022 at 2:45pm:
AusGeoff wrote on Aug 13th, 2022 at 10:13am:
I'm sorry, but this has to be one of the most absurd, fanciful, injudicious
comments I've read here on this topic!
Do you really believe this sort of bullshit, or are you just stirring the pot?

You are very naive, you have a lot to learn. Tell me what happened to the baby born with two heads in the Northern Territory - We must be eternally vigilant against tyranny...

Are you by any chance clairvoyant?  If not, then you're totally ill-equipped to
judge someone's character from a few online posts.  Even my close friends
have never called me "naive" so I'm a bit puzzled as to how you think you
know me so well?  And at my age, there's not a whole lot left for me to learn LOL.


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Re: NSW Second State to Ban Nazi Symbols
Reply #19 - Aug 13th, 2022 at 3:02pm
 
You are naive because you think there will be an actual benefit from this.

What positive benefit do you see from the ban in terms of the popularity of right wing extremism, and how do you think the law will achieve it?
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Reply #20 - Aug 13th, 2022 at 3:06pm
 
SBS are not backward in displaying the Swastika, they display about a hundred times a year to the public

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Re: NSW Second State to Ban Nazi Symbols
Reply #21 - Aug 13th, 2022 at 3:08pm
 
freediver wrote on Aug 13th, 2022 at 2:48pm:
Quote:
Banning the public display of the swastika is denying freedom of speech?  Seriously?


What is your problem with the statement?

Easy... your claim is absurd.

freediver wrote on Aug 13th, 2022 at 2:48pm:
And you are still avoiding the question: What positive benefit do you see from the ban in terms of the popularity of right wing extremism, and how do you think the law will achieve it?

Well, I thought it would've been obvious what the positives were from
banning the swastika in public.  I'm guessing you're either very young,
or not a student of German history and the insidious rise of Nazism.

Do you truly want to support that distorted, ultra-socialist lifestyle in
Australia by allowing people to potentially flood our streets with its
inherent symbolism of oppression and tyranny?   Sad really.


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Re: NSW Second State to Ban Nazi Symbols
Reply #22 - Aug 13th, 2022 at 3:09pm
 
Bias,
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We must be eternally vigilant against tyranny



We are vigilant -
there has been plenty in Victoria under the reign of Dirty Dan the despot:
some of the longest lockdowns in the world,
including house arrest and curfews for over 5.5 million people,
forced vaccinations of experimental vaccines.
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Re: NSW Second State to Ban Nazi Symbols
Reply #23 - Aug 13th, 2022 at 3:18pm
 
AusGeoff wrote on Aug 13th, 2022 at 3:08pm:
freediver wrote on Aug 13th, 2022 at 2:48pm:
Quote:
Banning the public display of the swastika is denying freedom of speech?  Seriously?


What is your problem with the statement?

Easy... your claim is absurd.

freediver wrote on Aug 13th, 2022 at 2:48pm:
And you are still avoiding the question: What positive benefit do you see from the ban in terms of the popularity of right wing extremism, and how do you think the law will achieve it?

Well, I thought it would've been obvious what the positives were from
banning the swastika in public.  I'm guessing you're either very young,
or not a student of German history and the insidious rise of Nazism.

Do you truly want to support that distorted, ultra-socialist lifestyle in
Australia by allowing people to potentially flood our streets with its
inherent symbolism of oppression and tyranny?   Sad really.




Are you having difficulty understanding the question? Flapping your arms while you speak isn't going to help you.

What positive benefit do you see from the ban in terms of the popularity of right wing extremism, and how do you think the law will achieve it?
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Re: NSW Second State to Ban Nazi Symbols
Reply #24 - Aug 13th, 2022 at 3:35pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 13th, 2022 at 3:09pm:
Bias,
Quote:
We must be eternally vigilant against tyranny



We are vigilant -
there has been plenty in Victoria under the reign of Dirty Dan the despot:
some of the longest lockdowns in the world,
including house arrest and curfews for over 5.5 million people,
forced vaccinations of experimental vaccines.



You mean this Nazi? ..... yes, we must be eternally vigilant

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Re: NSW Second State to Ban Nazi Symbols
Reply #25 - Aug 13th, 2022 at 3:40pm
 
Bias_2012 wrote on Aug 13th, 2022 at 3:35pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 13th, 2022 at 3:09pm:
Bias,
Quote:
We must be eternally vigilant against tyranny



We are vigilant -
there has been plenty in Victoria under the reign of Dirty Dan the despot:
some of the longest lockdowns in the world,
including house arrest and curfews for over 5.5 million people,
forced vaccinations of experimental vaccines.



You mean this Nazi? ..... yes, we must be eternally vigilant

https://static.timesofisrael.com/ajn/uploads/2020/08/116098861_10157181539570474...





LOL.


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Re: NSW Second State to Ban Nazi Symbols
Reply #26 - Aug 14th, 2022 at 4:58am
 
Fascism at its finest.
Bad move imo.



Watch all the freaks call me a nazi sympathiser without actually seeing the big picture here.  Roll Eyes
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Re: NSW Second State to Ban Nazi Symbols
Reply #27 - Aug 14th, 2022 at 12:30pm
 
Captain Caveman wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 4:58am:
Fascism at its finest.
Bad move imo.



Watch all the freaks call me a nazi sympathiser without actually seeing the big picture here.  Roll Eyes



Yes, banning is a Nazi act to begin with

Is the Hammer & Sickle symbol banned? It's just as bad, or worse








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Reply #28 - Aug 14th, 2022 at 1:04pm
 
Indonesia banned the Hammer & Sickle symbol ...

"In April 2017, Indonesian police detained a Malaysian tourist at a hotel in Mataram for wearing a T-shirt with an image of the hammer and sickle symbol."


To be fair dinkum, the Libs and Labs should ban the Hammer & Sickle as well, or don't ban any symbols at all

The Hammer & Sickle is representative of repression, oppression, starvation, murder, injustice, dictatorship, show trials, no democracy, etc etc






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Re: NSW Second State to Ban Nazi Symbols
Reply #29 - Aug 14th, 2022 at 1:51pm
 
Bias_2012 wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 12:30pm:
...Yes, banning is a Nazi act to begin with.

LOL... it's more than obvious now in your defence of carrying the Nazi symbol
that you have not the faintest notion of its history as utilised by the repressive,
racist German national socialists from 1920 until the end of WW2, that saw
millions of innocent civilians killed in cold blood.

I'll excuse your ignorance on the basis of your apparent youth, but as you grow
into a mature, thinking adult, you'll no doubt change your unenlightened opinion.




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