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Re: a referendum we actually need
Reply #105 - Sep 10^th, 2022 at 10:43am

Grappler Truth Teller wrote on Sep 10^th, 2022 at 9:58am:

'dividie' doesn't 'refute' anything - he simply offers a rhetorical different opinion - that is not refuting - it is merely offering an opinion.

A few here make that mistake, some deliberately, since they are both uneducated and essentially childish in their approach to life and discussion.

Their 'refutation' is like that Monty Python sketch...

"No it's not..."

refuted in #104. The BLACK gap is real, not opinion.

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thegreatdivide Gold Member Offline Australian Politics<br /> Posts: 13798 Gender:	Re: a referendum we actually need Reply #106 - Sep 10^th, 2022 at 10:44am ..
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Re: a referendum we actually need
Reply #107 - Sep 10^th, 2022 at 11:41am

thegreatdivide wrote on Sep 10^th, 2022 at 10:43am:

Grappler Truth Teller wrote on Sep 10^th, 2022 at 9:58am:

'dividie' doesn't 'refute' anything - he simply offers a rhetorical different opinion - that is not refuting - it is merely offering an opinion.

A few here make that mistake, some deliberately, since they are both uneducated and essentially childish in their approach to life and discussion.

Their 'refutation' is like that Monty Python sketch...

"No it's not..."

refuted in #104. The BLACK gap is real, not opinion.

We are not having a referendum on whether the gap exists TGD. You still have to think for yourself. Try it.

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Re: a referendum we actually need
Reply #108 - Sep 10^th, 2022 at 12:57pm

freediver wrote on Sep 10^th, 2022 at 11:41am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Sep 10^th, 2022 at 10:43am:

Grappler Truth Teller wrote on Sep 10^th, 2022 at 9:58am:

'dividie' doesn't 'refute' anything - he simply offers a rhetorical different opinion - that is not refuting - it is merely offering an opinion.

A few here make that mistake, some deliberately, since they are both uneducated and essentially childish in their approach to life and discussion.

Their 'refutation' is like that Monty Python sketch...

"No it's not..."

refuted in #104. The BLACK gap is real, not opinion.

We are not having a referendum on whether the gap exists TGD. You still have to think for yourself. Try it.

We ARE having a referendum owing to the nation's disgraceful black gap. If the race-based gap didn't exist, we wouldn't be having a referndum for a black voice.

Of course you ignored #104 which highlighted the fact.

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Reply #109 - Sep 10^th, 2022 at 1:55pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Sep 10^th, 2022 at 12:57pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 10^th, 2022 at 11:41am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Sep 10^th, 2022 at 10:43am:

Grappler Truth Teller wrote on Sep 10^th, 2022 at 9:58am:

'dividie' doesn't 'refute' anything - he simply offers a rhetorical different opinion - that is not refuting - it is merely offering an opinion.

A few here make that mistake, some deliberately, since they are both uneducated and essentially childish in their approach to life and discussion.

Their 'refutation' is like that Monty Python sketch...

"No it's not..."

refuted in #104. The BLACK gap is real, not opinion.

We are not having a referendum on whether the gap exists TGD. You still have to think for yourself. Try it.

We ARE having a referendum owing to the nation's disgraceful black gap. If the race-based gap didn't exist, we wouldn't be having a referndum for a black voice.

Of course you ignored #104 which highlighted the fact.

Probably, but that wouldn't actually refute what anyone else is saying. You still have to think for yourself. Try it.

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Re: a referendum we actually need
Reply #110 - Sep 10^th, 2022 at 2:06pm

freediver wrote on Sep 10^th, 2022 at 1:55pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Sep 10^th, 2022 at 12:57pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 10^th, 2022 at 11:41am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Sep 10^th, 2022 at 10:43am:

Grappler Truth Teller wrote on Sep 10^th, 2022 at 9:58am:

'dividie' doesn't 'refute' anything - he simply offers a rhetorical different opinion - that is not refuting - it is merely offering an opinion.

A few here make that mistake, some deliberately, since they are both uneducated and essentially childish in their approach to life and discussion.

Their 'refutation' is like that Monty Python sketch...

"No it's not..."

refuted in #104. The BLACK gap is real, not opinion.

We are not having a referendum on whether the gap exists TGD. You still have to think for yourself. Try it.

We ARE having a referendum owing to the nation's disgraceful black gap. If the race-based gap didn't exist, we wouldn't be having a referndum for a black voice.

Of course you ignored #104 which highlighted the fact.

Probably, but that wouldn't actually refute what anyone else is saying. You still have to think for yourself. Try it.

You asked for it - frauddiver -

Say what "others are saying", and what I must refute, and why " it wouldn't refute what others are saying".

Go on, now it's your chance to pin me down on your terms of the debate, frauddiver, while you refuse to address #104.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49963 At my desk.	Re: a referendum we actually need Reply #111 - Sep 10^th, 2022 at 2:13pm You don't have to refute anything. I just wanted you to realise that actually refuting what someone else says is not as simple as offering a tangentially relevant opinion that you think they might disagree with.
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Re: a referendum we actually need
Reply #112 - Sep 10^th, 2022 at 2:40pm

freediver wrote on Sep 10^th, 2022 at 2:13pm:

You don't have to refute anything. I just wanted you to realise that actually refuting what someone else says is not as simple as offering a tangentially relevant opinion that you think they might disagree with.

Addressed in #104. Refutation with facts makes it simple. ...the race-based gap exists, how we eradicate it is up for debate.

Grapps and Gnads reckon 'personal responsibility' is the beginning and end of the matter, so we just have to accept living with the gap.

Losers.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49963 At my desk.	Re: a referendum we actually need Reply #113 - Sep 10^th, 2022 at 2:48pm Quote: Addressed in #104. Ah. You win because you have won. Perhaps it is best if you don't try to refute anything.
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thegreatdivide Gold Member Offline Australian Politics<br /> Posts: 13798 Gender:	Re: a referendum we actually need Reply #114 - Sep 10^th, 2022 at 2:53pm freediver wrote on Sep 10^th, 2022 at 2:48pm: Quote: Addressed in #104. Ah. You win because you have won. Perhaps it is best if you don't try to refute anything. That's not debate; you need to quote what I said, and then refute it...
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49963 At my desk.	Re: a referendum we actually need Reply #115 - Sep 10^th, 2022 at 4:15pm Would you agree that in order to refute what someone is saying, you must first understand what they are saying?
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Re: a referendum we actually need
Reply #116 - Sep 10^th, 2022 at 8:56pm

freediver wrote on Sep 10^th, 2022 at 4:15pm:

Would you agree that in order to refute what someone is saying, you must first understand what they are saying?

No, I'm saying you are a fraud, who prefers to divert when he can't/won't debate.

Frauddiver, quote from #104 (anything will do), and then attempt to refute it, or confirm your obviously fraudulent nature.

Oh..and point out where/how I "haven't understood what someone was saying"....

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49963 At my desk.	Re: a referendum we actually need Reply #117 - Sep 10^th, 2022 at 9:23pm thegreatdivide wrote on Sep 10^th, 2022 at 8:56pm: freediver wrote on Sep 10^th, 2022 at 4:15pm: Would you agree that in order to refute what someone is saying, you must first understand what they are saying? No Yeah, I didn't think you would.
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 76360 Gender:	Re: a referendum we actually need Reply #118 - Sep 10^th, 2022 at 9:27pm thegreatdivide wrote on Sep 10^th, 2022 at 8:56pm: No, I'm saying you are a fraud, who prefers to divert when he can't/won't debate. That pretty much sums FD up.
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Re: a referendum we actually need
Reply #119 - Sep 10^th, 2022 at 9:43pm

freediver wrote on Sep 10^th, 2022 at 9:23pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Sep 10^th, 2022 at 8:56pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 10^th, 2022 at 4:15pm:

Would you agree that in order to refute what someone is saying, you must first understand what they are saying?

No

Yeah, I didn't think you would.

I see John Smith has you sorted...

so.... last chance:

Frauddiver, quote from #104 (anything will do), and then attempt to refute it, or confirm your obviously fraudulent nature.

Oh..and point out where/how I "haven't understood what someone was saying"..

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