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Sir lastnail Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 30923 Gender:	MONEY & MURDER IN HOSPITALS Aug 5^th, 2022 at 10:53pm Check it out MONEY & MURDER IN HOSPITALS - The world needs to know this! https://rumble.com/v1dmjkb-money-and-murder-in-hospitals-the-world-needs-to-know...
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Reply #1 - Aug 5^th, 2022 at 11:41pm

Good evening, Sir Nail.

Nah, I'll pass, thanks.

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And that was from May last year. Just imagine how bad it must be by now. Shocked

I think you've probably hit the bottom of the conspiracy theory rabbit hole by now, Sir Nail.

Oh, it was my birthday today - 65 years old and I've never felt better. No issues whatsoever after having my 4 Covid vaccinations since mid last year, how are you feeling these days?

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Reply #2 - Aug 6^th, 2022 at 9:00am

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 5^th, 2022 at 10:53pm:

Check it out Wink

MONEY & MURDER IN HOSPITALS...

The mockumentary is simply an aggregation of conspiracy theory bullshit.

Its makers, Janet Ossebaard and Cynthia Koeter are both nut cases in the
mould of Jones, Rogan, Carlson, et al.

Check out this site.

Buying into conspiracy theories can be exciting—that’s what makes them
dangerous.

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Reply #3 - Aug 9^th, 2022 at 11:50pm

It’s an old saying that doctors can bury their mistakes. The old folk used to tell me that a bit extra squirt of morphine or whatever and the oldies are gone. That’s why many elderly didn’t want to go to hospital.
There’s 700,000 deaths annually in the USA and about 86,000 annually in Australia.
Anything can happen… and I kept an interesting newspaper cut out from decades ago. “Death takes a holiday”
In Spain… doctors/nurses went on strike for a few weeks.
The death rate plummeted!
When they all returned back to hospital to work again … the death rates went up!
It was a fascinating article. I archive lots of unusual things and others I kept… about break through a with certain illnesses… ready in 5 years… well I had that article from 15 years prior and nothing ever came of it.
It is well known than big farma can buy out these researchers and shelve the miraculous discoveries. Especially if it doesn’t involve them to be able to give out $cript$.

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Baronvonrort Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20613 Gender:	Re: MONEY & MURDER IN HOSPITALS Reply #4 - Aug 9^th, 2022 at 11:56pm Sophia wrote on Aug 9^th, 2022 at 11:50pm: It’s an old saying that doctors can bury their mistakes. That saying is still valid today.
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Reply #5 - Aug 10^th, 2022 at 4:09am

Sophia wrote on Aug 9^th, 2022 at 11:50pm:

...In Spain… doctors/nurses went on strike for a few weeks.
The death rate plummeted!
When they all returned back to hospital to work again … the death rates went up...

Link(s) please.

Sophia wrote on Aug 9^th, 2022 at 11:50pm:

It is well known than big pharma can buy out these researchers and shelve the miraculous discoveries. Especially if it doesn’t involve them to be able to give out $cript$.

Nope. It's not "well known". Again, link(s) please.

But here's some factual evidence to disprove your Spanish death rate claim:

The impact of strike action on patient morbidity.

Strikes ranged from 13 to 118 days, with a mean strike length of 56 days.

• Strike action has little impact on patient morbidity, almost all studies reported no adverse outcomes,

• Strike action by healthcare staff can be carried out safely in relation to patient morbidity.

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Reply #6 - Aug 10^th, 2022 at 11:28am

AusGeoff wrote on Aug 10^th, 2022 at 4:09am:

Sophia wrote on Aug 9^th, 2022 at 11:50pm:

...In Spain… doctors/nurses went on strike for a few weeks.
The death rate plummeted!
When they all returned back to hospital to work again … the death rates went up...

Link(s) please.

Sophia wrote on Aug 9^th, 2022 at 11:50pm:

It is well known than big pharma can buy out these researchers and shelve the miraculous discoveries. Especially if it doesn’t involve them to be able to give out $cript$.

Nope. It's not "well known". Again, link(s) please.

But here's some factual evidence to disprove your Spanish death rate claim:

The impact of strike action on patient morbidity.

Strikes ranged from 13 to 118 days, with a mean strike length of 56 days.

• Strike action has little impact on patient morbidity, almost all studies reported no adverse outcomes,

• Strike action by healthcare staff can be carried out safely in relation to patient morbidity.

A link to the report about Spain and doctors on strike?
I wrote it was a newspaper report… way before I was on any internet.
I did write I kept that newspaper article in my storage …. One day, when we shift house (downsizing) hopefully in next 12 months… I will then sort through all my stuff and will scan and send it through.

In the meantime… here’s an interesting link about how strikes affect deaths.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/au/blog/slightly-blighty/201510/why-do-patients-...

As for big farma stopping certain advancements which won’t include them being able to profit from… you say that’s not well known… perhaps that’s right… it may not be well known… not even my husband knew of a certain situation where 3 American scientists had successfully stabilised redox signalling molecules… after 16 years of trial and error…. Only to have a meeting from 4 big farma officials flying into Utah in their private plane… to offer $1 billion us… to shelve product and to retire the other 40 scientists.
These 3 scientists didn’t take the offer. And the product was launched in 2010. Then when it was launched… before it could get off the ground… the shills that criticised it was so damned obvious…
But you know… those good men persisted and it’s proven now…successfully.
No thanks to any big farma.
Reminds me of the adage that evil prevails when good people do nothing.

Hubby didn’t believe it either until we went to Broadbeach convention centre a few short years ago… where thousands others were also… then hubby learnt of it.
I do have links, and YouTubes etc and testimonials… of it all…. I’m not going to put it up in here.
You may wonder why big farma wants stuff shelved? Doing big payouts?
Because the stuff they want shelved is natural. Good healthy stuff… no prescription needed.

But….yes… you are right… it’s not well known that big farma do these things.
Funny thing is… why would Olivia need to open yet another cancer centre in Melbourne when we have Peter Mac?
Would hate to think of all the red tape she had to go through to achieve it.
Must be in the legal wording.

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Reply #7 - Aug 10^th, 2022 at 2:24pm

probably not correct but is the hospital model the best model for health?
is the medication model the best model for health?

hospitals are fantastic at treating trauma, car accidents,burns, broken bones.
its amazing.

but we have to go back to the beginnings of modern medicine to find one of the biggest problems.

the worlds richest man, JD Rockerfeller brought up most of the existing drug manufacturers.

and then he used his political influence to stack the american medical association and establish the current medical model.

this is based on diseases and hospitals and doctors who are only allowed to prescribe drugs which the authorities approve of and the basic exclusion of preventative medicine (because there is no money in it)

so we do nothing with people on atrocious diets until they have a heart attack or develop diabetes and then we use , often 4 or 5 patented drugs to try to control the disease.

its very expensive and also very lucarative.

are people better off being treated this way?

probably not.

i see a guy in his 40's died in adelaide today when he had a heart attack in his car and it took an hour for an ambulance to get to him.

the current hospital model will call for more ambulance and more hospitals (and they are going to need them with overweight now being at 70 % for men)

wouldnt it be better to ask "why did a guy in his 40's have a heart attack.
the guy weighed 130 according to the 2 by standers who lifted him out of the car and tried CPR.

what does modern medicine and hospitals have to offer this guy.

not much

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 119779 Melbourne Gender:	Re: MONEY & MURDER IN HOSPITALS Reply #8 - Aug 10^th, 2022 at 3:01pm Hi Aqua, when I was a kid I'd sometimes read the death notices in the newspaper. It would say someone in their 50s had died of old age - natural causes. We would never call 50s old age now. Are we expecting to live too long?
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Reply #9 - Aug 10^th, 2022 at 3:44pm

the very very expensive medications keep you "alive" but you wont be healthy.

most people will find their old age is just spent at the doctors and the chemists trying not to die.

as cash dries up, they will become more and more anxious about accessing scarce resources.

a hospital bed, an ambulance, an operation for a hip or knee will become more and more competitive to access. you will wait longer and the standards will drop .
already half the towns in rural qld and nsw have lost their doctors and doctors wont take on new patients

best to be as self reliant as you can

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Reply #10 - Aug 10^th, 2022 at 3:48pm

aquascoot wrote on Aug 10^th, 2022 at 2:24pm:

i see a guy in his 40's died in adelaide today when he had a heart attack in his car and it took an hour for an ambulance to get to him.

And why was that, I wonder?

(Hint: these tragedies didn't seem to be happening before Australia decided to open up and let Covid rip).

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Carl D Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10957 Rivervale, Perth Gender:	Re: MONEY & MURDER IN HOSPITALS Reply #11 - Aug 10^th, 2022 at 3:55pm Oh, and before aquascoot comes along and tells us all again that Covid is a "big nothing burger for most people" I read somewhere last week that 1 in every 12 hospital beds around Australia is being used by a Covid patient at the moment.
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Reply #12 - Aug 10^th, 2022 at 5:03pm

i doubt they are there just because of covid.

covid would be the final straw for a body demolished by bad food and poor health choices.

governments arent going to build more hospitals.

the beds are simply too expensive.

How many hospital beds are in Australia?

The Facts | AustralianHospitalshttp://hospitals.org.au › voice-of-reason › the-facts
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Has the number of hospital beds decreased?
Between 1987/88 and 2019/20 the total number of overnight beds decreased by 57 per cent whilst the number of day-only beds, increased more than five-fold as medical innovations have led to an increase in same-day procedures.5 Nov 2021

there is a move away from beds for anything but day surgery.

as the number of people over 80 quadruples in the next 15 years,and bearing in mind old people often need long term beds as they cant be sorted out in 1 day, they will simply not be able to be admitted.
i expect , pretty soon, governments will do a deal where nursing home patients dont get put in ambulances and sent to public hospitals if they get sick

the hospital will probably send a nurse practitioner out to the nursing home to provide care on site

then this will flow over into nurse practitioners looking after the elderly at home and ambulances not being called except if the gatekeepers say so first

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Reply #13 - Aug 10^th, 2022 at 5:08pm

aquascoot wrote on Aug 10^th, 2022 at 2:24pm:

i see a guy in his 40's died in adelaide today when he had a heart attack in his car and it took an hour for an ambulance to get to him.

thats because Ambulances were ramping for up to 6 hours that day in Adelaide because of high staff absenteeism and a high number of covid patients in the hospital meaning they couldn't unload the ambulances because there were no staff to deal with it and no beds to move them into..

This was what the lock downs were trying to prevent the whole time you were crying about lockdowns

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Reply #14 - Aug 10^th, 2022 at 5:10pm

aquascoot wrote on Aug 10^th, 2022 at 5:03pm:

i doubt they are there just because of covid.

that's irrelevant. if a patient has covid he has to be isolated from the other patients and staff are at a higher risk of being infected. Resources are been used to deal with the covid instead of the other ailments that patients might suffer

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