Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2022 at 8:58pm:



Because by their 'identity', they have a life expectancy some 15 years less than 'non-abos'.

You got to fix that (rather,  the government has to fix it, because you can't fix it), if you want to stop people -including fair-minded whites - banging on about injustice to first nations' people.


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Diversion; Meister pointed to enough identities already, no more please....

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No, it creates a demand for separate nationhood ....put that in your pipe and smoke it for a while....  

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And nationality is a convention....

(permanent aboriginal seats in Parliament)

As before - that is a totally separate question and would require a totally separate referendum.  You can't just arbitrarily mix things up like that.  BTW - Maori seats was a position imposed on all by the government of the day ..... it was an administrative issue and not a referred to the people one.

Remember that back then the majority of people didn't have votes ..... and plebiscites were unheard of... voting rights depended on your property ownership..... same as here...

https://nzhistory.govt.nz/politics/maori-and-the-vote/setting-up-seats

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2022 at 12:47pm:

And it clearly has met no overwhelming resistance from the NZ people since its establishment in 1868.

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 29^th, 2022 at 10:40pm:


Who cares about what we MIGHT BE ASKED?

Here's the question WE ARE ASKING RIGHT NOW: Where is the over half a BILLION dollars required to fund this referendum coming out of? Aged Care? Health? Education? Housing?

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2022 at 12:40pm:



Correct - part of the reason for that is genetic, there is the violence and stress they impose on one another in far too many cases, the diet they choose to pursue, and they lead a life of often substance abuse.  Those are personal issues most of which can be fixed by them.  They do not want 'intervention' - they want to 'do things their way'.

Doesn't matter what 'nationality' is - it is what it is.... being part of a nation, a group with generally the same requirements.  It is impossible to simply abolish nations and then have totally open borders - clearly all  cultures are not equal in their behaviour and values ... and each is as entitled as any other to stick to what they want.

We simply don't whip our women for adultery - if we did there's be plenty with scars on their backs to equal those of a galley slave... we don't stone them either ... so we are quite content with out own national identity, thank you.  We don't need any help with that....

NONE of this has anything to do with the demand for a shadow government...... something that no group is entitled to here under our rules...

As an aside - I warned yez all years ago about Labor and their quota for women.... now the fruit is starting to be eaten by the bats .... once you swallow the idea that quotas are the way forward, you will swallow this equally divisive nonsense as well.  I warned yez not to vote for Labor.....

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2022 at 1:06pm:

A shadow government has not been proposed, you are merely parroting the mindset of your generation and the generations before, as iconified by Joh Bjelke-Petersen.

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2022 at 1:09pm:

As the English did to the Scots at the turn of the 18th century.

Geriatric sensibility is ineradicable. You are the recipient of the white trash cultural milieu you were born into.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2022 at 1:17pm:


Why did you make that wrong conclusion to what I said? Which was:

"we can look forward to passage of time and assimilation to render permanent representation of that culture  superfluous".