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Re: The question about a voice will be asked...
Reply #510 - Aug 6^th, 2022 at 6:19pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 6^th, 2022 at 11:49am:

Johnnie wrote on Aug 5^th, 2022 at 7:26pm:

Who cares about the Stone Age mob living off the taxpayer out in the bush,

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-05-04/indigenous-voice-to-parliament-vote-compa...

"Vote Compass data finds most Australians support Indigenous Voice to Parliament — and it has grown since the last election"

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Albo should have told them there is a 3% unemployment rate and they should get off their backsides and go and get a job while he was up north last week tending a sanitised smoking ceremony,

Real unemployment is closer to 7% (note involuntary under-employment, and those who have given up looking) and if the unemployed don't match the available jobs, government will need to intervene in the job market.

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i doubt Jacinta gives a rats either, she is on a good wicket now and can milk it for all its worth.

Yes, well all politicians' dreams of improving society evaporate when they are confronted with the sterile institutional reality of the contest between those who have money and those who don't.

Nevertheless Jacinta will be able to convince herself her understanding of the abo condition is correct.

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New data shows three quarters of Australians agree it's time for a referendum to create an Indigenous Voice to Parliament — but not all the major parties do.

Vote Compass asked whether Australia should amend its constitution to establish a representative body or "Voice" to advise Parliament on laws and policies affecting Indigenous peoples.

There was clear support for the idea — overall 73 per cent of Australians agreed '"strongly" or "somewhat" that there should be constitutional change to give Indigenous Australians a greater say over their lives.

Anyone know what people were actually asked in this poll?

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Re: The question about a voice will be asked...
Reply #512 - Aug 6^th, 2022 at 6:22pm

Racist Blacknecks are more the real problem for society - running riot and demanding everything under the sun just for being Black... look at the crime figures and such..... spousal and family violence and murder...

Anyone who imagines that ordinary folk who despise such activities and loathe the very idea of preferential treatment for some over others in an egalitarian democracy are 'redneck racists' is a total moron.

Keffir! Heal Thyself!!

What would be the response if someone said that Whites needed their extra outside the voting booth Voice at every level of government?

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Re: The question about a voice will be asked...
Reply #513 - Aug 6^th, 2022 at 6:54pm

John Smith wrote on Aug 6^th, 2022 at 6:19pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 6^th, 2022 at 5:48pm:

no

There is a poll on it, khunt.

why bother with the poll? This forum is full of racist rednecks and you ban people who disagree with you.

Luckily for Australia this forum is not representative of the general community Roll Eyes

Why bother voting in it John?

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Reply #514 - Aug 6^th, 2022 at 6:59pm

FD wrote on Aug 6^th, 2022 at 2:18pm:

Johnnie wrote on Aug 5^th, 2022 at 10:53pm:

FD wrote on Aug 5^th, 2022 at 10:39pm:

Johnnie wrote on Aug 5^th, 2022 at 10:14pm:

FD wrote on Aug 5^th, 2022 at 9:48pm:

Johnnie wrote on Aug 5^th, 2022 at 7:26pm:

Who cares about the Stone Age mob living off the taxpayer out in the bush, Albo should have told them there is a 3% unemployment rate and they should get off their backsides and go and get a job while he was up north last week tending a sanitised smoking ceremony, i doubt Jacinta gives a rats either, she is on a good wicket now and can milk it for all its worth.

Spanking ceremony. The Boongs showed Albo. They put him over their knee and gave him a jolly good rogering.

Next comes the referendum, where you'll get a jolly good rogering too. The Aussies will give the Boongs a go, and you'll complain, oh, so unfair.

We'll be there for you, Matty, no worries. We'll hear you. Oh, I know, we'll say, you're in so much pain. Where does it hurt? The anus?

You poor thing. Which hole would you like us to use next?

You are a crude Khunt. There are 200,000 of these Stone Age peoples living out there answering to no one and now they want a voice, they can go and get fkkd.

Now now, Matty, if you take that attitude, you'll be well and truly fucked. I'll be going slops myself, right after the Boongs take your worthless virginity.

And believe me, it'll be a landslide. If I was you, I'd be getting my bottom ready. Just be sure to purse your lips when it's my turn, dear. I love it when you look all dazed and stupid.

Franks knows what I mean.

Is that all you got, 200,000 of them ffs doing nothing and Khunts like you think they are entitled to do nothing, round em up bring em in and brand em.

Just so. Aquascoot calls this farming them.

So typical of the leftards, no?

No. What can we do with these hundreds of thousands of Boongs who just sit out in the scrub drinking all day every day, its no use giving them a voice, they wouldn't even know what day of the week it is, Khunt.

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FD Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 100065	Re: The question about a voice will be asked... Reply #515 - Aug 6^th, 2022 at 7:04pm freediver wrote on Aug 6^th, 2022 at 5:48pm: no There is a poll on it, khunt. No worries. Are you, or have you ever been, a naughty old racist? Or, like the old boy, do you deny it? A simple yes or no will suffice.
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Re: The question about a voice will be asked...
Reply #516 - Aug 6^th, 2022 at 7:12pm

John Smith wrote on Aug 6^th, 2022 at 6:19pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 6^th, 2022 at 5:48pm:

no

There is a poll on it, khunt.

why bother with the poll? This forum is full of racist rednecks and you ban people who disagree with you.

Luckily for Australia this forum is not representative of the general community Roll Eyes

Good point, JS, I think this one deserves a reply.

FD, is this board stacked with those who are, or have ever been, naughty old racists?

A simple yes or no, please. We'll reserve the right for supplementaries in response to denial or cringing, spineless evasion.

Cheers.

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Re: The question about a voice will be asked...
Reply #517 - Aug 6^th, 2022 at 7:15pm

Johnnie wrote on Aug 6^th, 2022 at 6:59pm:

FD wrote on Aug 6^th, 2022 at 2:18pm:

Johnnie wrote on Aug 5^th, 2022 at 10:53pm:

FD wrote on Aug 5^th, 2022 at 10:39pm:

Johnnie wrote on Aug 5^th, 2022 at 10:14pm:

FD wrote on Aug 5^th, 2022 at 9:48pm:

Johnnie wrote on Aug 5^th, 2022 at 7:26pm:

Who cares about the Stone Age mob living off the taxpayer out in the bush, Albo should have told them there is a 3% unemployment rate and they should get off their backsides and go and get a job while he was up north last week tending a sanitised smoking ceremony, i doubt Jacinta gives a rats either, she is on a good wicket now and can milk it for all its worth.

Spanking ceremony. The Boongs showed Albo. They put him over their knee and gave him a jolly good rogering.

Next comes the referendum, where you'll get a jolly good rogering too. The Aussies will give the Boongs a go, and you'll complain, oh, so unfair.

We'll be there for you, Matty, no worries. We'll hear you. Oh, I know, we'll say, you're in so much pain. Where does it hurt? The anus?

You poor thing. Which hole would you like us to use next?

You are a crude Khunt. There are 200,000 of these Stone Age peoples living out there answering to no one and now they want a voice, they can go and get fkkd.

Now now, Matty, if you take that attitude, you'll be well and truly fucked. I'll be going slops myself, right after the Boongs take your worthless virginity.

And believe me, it'll be a landslide. If I was you, I'd be getting my bottom ready. Just be sure to purse your lips when it's my turn, dear. I love it when you look all dazed and stupid.

Franks knows what I mean.

Is that all you got, 200,000 of them ffs doing nothing and Khunts like you think they are entitled to do nothing, round em up bring em in and brand em.

Just so. Aquascoot calls this farming them.

So typical of the leftards, no?

No. What can we do with these hundreds of thousands of Boongs who just sit out in the scrub drinking all day every day, its no use giving them a voice, they wouldn't even know what day of the week it is, Khunt.

Weeks are a Western invention, Matty. Moi?

I'd ban them. Let's get everybody out to the scrub to learn from the Boongs. We'll have a nice old drink.

We know your solution. It seems to fit in rather well with the tone and culture of the board, no?

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Re: The question about a voice will be asked...
Reply #518 - Aug 6^th, 2022 at 7:23pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Aug 6^th, 2022 at 2:35pm:

Ah - so not agreeing with you is 'non-thinking' - how drearily 1984 of you.

Not at all, I was commending you for actually taking the time to think, as in trying to understand the situation. (though my doubts about the quality of your thinking remain, which is a different thing).

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'no more harm than good' - ergo - no good will come of it and the potential harm has not been considered, as usual - we should spend $500m to alter the constitution to set in concrete discrimination and a shadow government.

er...repeat and and rinse .....the voice is not a shadow governement.

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It's good to see you 'thinking' - but you are way off beam.

Ok, let's see what you've got:

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WTF does wanting a pregnancy test have to do with REAL discrimination? Does sexual dysfunction go on the Medicare - do countless other things? You can buy a preggers test at the chemist's...

Ok, I'll call a truce on the women thing: I suppose abo women face many of the same issues, by the mere fact of being women.

But I won't call a truce on 'personal responsibility' being the end of individual well-being.

So let's see if you learned anything from my lesson on macroeconmics (which you claimed has 'phark all' consequence), and how it affects individuals.

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If that's all women have to worry about - they have no problems..... and do you know what? As for 'concentrated in the lower paid and often caring occupations' - just WTF do you imagine are the best jobs in most country areas? Workin' at the hospital, on the council, in retail, in real estate - where women are by far the vast majority and men can scarcely get a look in.

I will address this because you are now considering macreconomic effects on the lives of individuals.

Yes, no doubt women are the better bread winners in many country areas where farming can be a marginal occupation (in droughts, poor markets etc). But overall, women are still paid less than men.

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What on earth are you basing your argument on about 'poor, poor women' this time? the simple reality is that there is a national wage case and negotiated wage increases from time to time as well... and in each category of work NOBODY can be legally reduced in income below the specified amount per hour worked....

And it's widely recognized the caring occupations, mainly female, are underpaid - despite, or because of, national wage cases determined by neoliberal ideologues.

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Find something better to work on.. some REAL issue for women these days..... with the preferential schooling, the never-ending scholarships at uni, the preference for placement in courses, the shoe-horning into areas they are little interested in, their majority presence in courses while still being treated as a 'minority' (???), the gifts of 'governor' jobs and high public servant positions based on affirmative action over the years and some weird concept of restoring some historical imbalance long dead...

Apart from the issue of caring jobs being poorly paid, at the other end of the wage scale women surely don't get a free ride; recall the fate of Oz Post's CEO, merely because she awarded a watch to someone; a truly disgraceful pile-on by politicians scoring a cheap point.

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What IS your problem with men being restored to a genuine equal opportunity and genuine affirmative action going to clear cases of genuine need as opposed to giving certain demographics endless AA for life?

My problem is with the vicious neoliberal job market which pits individuals - and men and women fighting for better wages - against one-another while the CEOs of the big end of town laugh all the way to the bank.

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they've had it since 1982 - that's forty years now, sonny - older than you, it seems... when do you think AA should be abolished in favour of genuine equal opportunity on genuine merit and performance?

...continuing with your inadequate 'personal responsibility' ideology.
A functional system engenders satisfactory participation by all, in the nation's economic life.

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Now - WHAT are the REAL issues for women these days, pray tell?

Low superannuation accounts on retiring, due to absences from the workforce for child bearing and rearing. And lower rates of home ownership on retirement.

https://www.domain.com.au/news/women-have-lower-rates-of-home-ownership-in-austr...

Women have lower rates of home ownership in Australia than men: research

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Best you stick to the Lord of The Flies in your 'thinking' - "Kill the Boomers - Drink Their Blood!"

Like I said, i'm happy to drop the woman thing (a complication and diversion from the topic) , in order to get you back on track, ie, facing, dealing with, and 'closing the gap'.

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Re: The question about a voice will be asked...
Reply #519 - Aug 6^th, 2022 at 7:30pm

FD wrote on Aug 6^th, 2022 at 7:12pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 6^th, 2022 at 6:19pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 6^th, 2022 at 5:48pm:

no

There is a poll on it, khunt.

why bother with the poll? This forum is full of racist rednecks and you ban people who disagree with you.

Luckily for Australia this forum is not representative of the general community Roll Eyes

Good point, JS, I think this one deserves a reply.

FD, is this board stacked with those who are, or have ever been, naughty old racists?

A simple yes or no, please. We'll reserve the right for supplementaries in response to denial or cringing, spineless evasion.

Cheers.

Paki nonsense, Mustafaken.

There are many more openly Lefty poster here than openly conservative ones. No 'extreme right wing' but a couple of avowed Marxists, which is as far left as you can go. Most people here are middle of the road with progressive sympathies but with largely traditional, sober, considered values. They are just labelled far right by the khunts and turds.

You idiotic 'narrative' 9ie rape and deforming of the language0 is no proof of anything other that your ... er... rape and debasement of the language.

Look at your own way of self-identifying, for example....

(Thank you, Sigmund, the return of the unconscious, what? Name is fate. Assumed name is recognition of fate).

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Reply #520 - Aug 6^th, 2022 at 7:31pm

FD wrote on Aug 6^th, 2022 at 7:15pm: