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Reply #75 - Aug 6th, 2022 at 5:21pm
 
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If I let myself be bought then I am no longer free.

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Reply #76 - Aug 6th, 2022 at 5:27pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 6th, 2022 at 4:52pm:
“interesting to me as a woman” says Larry  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



just in case anyone forgot what sex he was supposed to be Grin Grin
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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.
 
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Reply #77 - Aug 6th, 2022 at 5:32pm
 
Just got a truckload of new members from here. Guess most people see through FD’s deflection about the MASSIVE doxxing went on here and the sewer.

I was libelled in the sewer—identified by a photo IQ had doxxed. Ask FD what he did about that.
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Reply #78 - Aug 6th, 2022 at 5:49pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 6th, 2022 at 5:21pm:
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Please note everyone!!!! Freediver knows exactly what Monk is!
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Reply #79 - Aug 6th, 2022 at 5:50pm
 
the forums psycho is going through one of it's manic stages again ... won't be long before it's banned again Grin Grin
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Reply #80 - Aug 6th, 2022 at 6:33pm
 
John_Taverner wrote on Aug 6th, 2022 at 7:52am:
waggawoody wrote on Aug 5th, 2022 at 6:14pm:
John_Taverner wrote on Aug 5th, 2022 at 6:09pm:
Do any of you antivaxxers have dental work without anaesthetic?

I was just wondering, because the risk of complications from anaesthetic injection (eg Lidocaine) is much higher than that from Pfizer

If you choose to keep a stiff upper lip and forego that particular "assault on your human rights", I'd like to be a fly on the wall.

Of course we all know that everything you read on Facebook is dead set (/sarc off)



Pfizer?
Pfizer?


Pfizer?


http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1659381791/20#20


Can you name any large US corporation that hasn't been sued, or which doesn't have dirty laundry?

Do you really believe that if a company has dirty laundry, none of their products could be any good?


This is people's health at stake. Understand?

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So do you have your dental work done without those Big Pharma anaesthetics?


My teeth are in excellent condition and the only time I go to the dentist is for scaling/polishing and I certainly don't need a pain killer for that.
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Hamas, to my great regret, is Israel’s creation

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Reply #81 - Aug 6th, 2022 at 6:36pm
 
AusGeoff wrote on Aug 6th, 2022 at 8:30am:
waggawoody wrote on Aug 5th, 2022 at 5:05pm:
...That ties in with what we're hearing from the UK - that hospitals are sending the dead straight to crematoriums and bypassing funeral directors as they are overwhelmed with dead bodies.


From Sage Journals, 6 September 2021:

"Funerals have long been of interest to social scientists. Previous sociological work has
examined the relationship between individuality, belief and tradition within funeral
services, founded on the assumption that public rituals have psycho-social benefit for
organisers and attendees.

With the introduction of direct cremation to the UK, and the impact of the COVID pandemic
on funeral service attendance in 2020 and 2021, critique of this assumption is now needed.

Drawing on interviews with recently bereaved people who organised a direct cremation
in late 2017, this [article] illustrates how compromise, control and consistency are key
drivers for not having a funeral service. The article argues that a declining importance
in the fate of the body and a move towards "invite-only" commemorative events represents
a waning need for social support offered by a public, communal funeral service. In turn,
this indicates a sequestration, or privatisation, of the contemporary funeral."

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/00380385211036350

—I see no issues at all with a direct hospital to crematorium pathway if the family so desires.
   Just as burial has become outdated, so have funerals in all their morbid glory.  I certainly
   don't want a funeral when I depart this mortal coil.




But is that so?


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Re: So many now dying suddenly
Reply #82 - Aug 6th, 2022 at 8:55pm
 
John_Taverner wrote on Aug 6th, 2022 at 2:15pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 6th, 2022 at 9:58am:
As regards your attachment : Why would you put up one of my fav magazines (the other is Better Homes and Gardens) for consideration?


1. Groan. Do you like reading fiction pretending to be fact? (I  don't mean Better Homes and Gardens)

I can now see your attraction to Facebook.

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/lifestyle/sa-weekend/come-on-these-trashy-mags-ar...

2. A lot more people have died or had serious reactions from local anaesthetic than from Pfizer Comirnaty.

I got a filling for the first time in 10 years two days ago. That's why I mentioned Lidocaine, another Pfizer product.

Remember this:
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Multi national organisations PLAY politics (often of the Machiavellian variety) every day. ......Big Pharma as an entity is typified by this category.


3. In essence, Pfizer does bad things, therefore anything Pfizer makes is bad. Beethoven likes trees therefore my dog is Beethoven. That kind of thing.

You used that argument against Pfizer Comirnaty, but wouldn't it also apply to Lidocaine?

At least you're not anti fluoridation. I also grew up with fluoridated water.


John...stop assuming so much about me.

1. Those magazines I've mentioned are interesting to me as a woman. I've won competitions through them and I find I learn quite a lot about recipes, fashion, home decor ideas and gardening as well as arts n crafts. I love all that type of stuff.

2. Got a link for that claim?

3. No that's not what I inferred. I'll take this opportunity to correct you there. John, if someone breaches your trust you would expect to have a certain level of hesitation in ever trusting them again. Yes? What if that same person breaches your trust a few times? At what stage would YOU John, draw the line ??

This question may well be answered using the 1 gauge we all have deep inside our hearts and minds as well as in our gut feeling  : The BS meter.
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Re: So many now dying suddenly
Reply #83 - Aug 7th, 2022 at 1:43am
 
John_Taverner wrote on Aug 6th, 2022 at 2:15pm:
A lot more people have died or had serious reactions from local anaesthetic than from Pfizer Comirnaty.


I haven't heard of anything like that.  Can you give us a link?

I only ask because with a mouthful of crappy baby boomer
teeth, I must've had hundreds of locals in my lifetime at the
dentist, with ne'er a worry.      Apart from dribbling my next
coffee down my chin, à la Dudley Moore LOL.


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Reply #84 - Aug 7th, 2022 at 2:54am
 
waggawoody wrote on Aug 4th, 2022 at 6:44pm:
AusGeoff wrote on Aug 4th, 2022 at 1:12am:
I also note that you couldn't even name 12 of the
purported 17,000 doctors who'd signed the declaration.    Why is that?   
Don't you know any of them?  Or does this list not even exist?

What part of, the first link, just scroll down, do you not understand?

Yes, I read through that list of medical signatories, and couldn't help
noticing that numerous of them had no appropriate clinical qualifications
in order to comment meaningfully on viruses or vaccines.  In fact a few
of them are acknowledged by the medical profession as quacks; see my little list:

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Robert Malone, MD; Peter McCullough, MD; Pierre Kory, MD;
Simone Gold, MD; Paul Marik, MD;  Vladimir Zelenko, MD;
Christiane Northrup, MD; Richard Urso, MD;Stella Immanuel, MD;
Prof. Andrea Stramezzi; Peter Parry, MD; Tess Lawrie, MD.


waggawoody wrote on Aug 4th, 2022 at 6:44pm:
Besides, all the money is in vaccines. Bill Gates has openly admitted he expects a 20 to 1 return on his investment in vaccines.

You've willfully and totally misrepresented this, and really shows up the
misinformation that the lying anti-vaxxers propagate.  Shame on you.

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Gates revealed the best investment he has ever made in an essay in
The Wall Street Journal. It’s the $10 billion he’s invested, through the
Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, into three particular organizations that
increase access to vaccines and medicines for people who need
them around the world
.  Gates says investing $10 billion in Gavi, the
Vaccine Alliance; the Global Fund; and the Global Polio Eradication Initiative,
which help deliver drugs to developing countries... is helping young
children live, get the right nutrition, contribute to their countries—that
has a payback that goes beyond any typical financial return.

waggawoody wrote on Aug 4th, 2022 at 6:44pm:
Not true. Right from the start the vaccines were called experimental...

All vaccines are termed "experimental" as they go through the
research, trials, and testing procedures prior to public release.  Claims
that COVID vaccines were "experimental", have skipped animal testing,
or have not completed initial research trials are false.

waggawoody wrote on Aug 4th, 2022 at 6:44pm:
Otherwise why were pregnant women excluded from the clinical trials yet the vax was declared safe for these women?

Women are always excluded from drug trials—for obvious reasons I would've
thought LOL.

Anyway... back to my point.  Apparently, without copying and
pasting, you're unable to name another 12 doctors from a list
of 17,000.   Seriously?   It's become embarrassingly obvious
that you, and all the other people who cite this "list" have
in fact never seen it.    And who can't even post a link to it LOL.

—Very sad.     Grin

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Reply #85 - Aug 7th, 2022 at 10:02am
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 6th, 2022 at 5:49pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 6th, 2022 at 5:21pm:
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Please note everyone!!!! Freediver knows exactly what Monk is!


Make sure you use protection when you are with Monk and always use a VPN Wink
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Reply #86 - Aug 7th, 2022 at 10:03am
 
AusGeoff wrote on Aug 7th, 2022 at 1:43am:
John_Taverner wrote on Aug 6th, 2022 at 2:15pm:
A lot more people have died or had serious reactions from local anaesthetic than from Pfizer Comirnaty.


I haven't heard of anything like that.  Can you give us a link?

I only ask because with a mouthful of crappy baby boomer
teeth, I must've had hundreds of locals in my lifetime at the
dentist, with ne'er a worry.      Apart from dribbling my next
coffee down my chin, à la Dudley Moore LOL.




They are dropping like flies. Talk to people who work in hospitals and they will tell you the true story.
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Reply #87 - Aug 7th, 2022 at 10:17am
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 7th, 2022 at 10:03am:
They are dropping like flies. Talk to people who work in hospitals and they will tell you the true story.


LOL!  Grin Grin Grin

(Sorry, that's all I can muster up as a reply right now - bit too early in the morning for me).
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Reply #88 - Aug 7th, 2022 at 10:31am
 
Carl D wrote on Aug 7th, 2022 at 10:17am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 7th, 2022 at 10:03am:
They are dropping like flies. Talk to people who work in hospitals and they will tell you the true story.


LOL!  Grin Grin Grin

(Sorry, that's all I can muster up as a reply right now - bit too early in the morning for me).



that's all it deserves. At this stage it's fairly obvious he's beyond help
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Reply #89 - Aug 7th, 2022 at 12:43pm
 
AusGeoff wrote on Aug 7th, 2022 at 1:43am:
John_Taverner wrote on Aug 6th, 2022 at 2:15pm:
A lot more people have died or had serious reactions from local anaesthetic than from Pfizer Comirnaty.


I haven't heard of anything like that.  Can you give us a link?

I only ask because with a mouthful of crappy baby boomer
teeth, I must've had hundreds of locals in my lifetime at the
dentist, with ne'er a worry.      Apart from dribbling my next
coffee down my chin, à la Dudley Moore LOL.




It's anecdotal, but here is a link regarding severe allergic reactions to Lidocaine.  The actual frequency is extremely low, but still one magnitude higher than Pfizer Comirnaty.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5586559/#:~:text=Allergic%20reactio...D.
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These reactions can range in severity from mild to life-threatening, and the clinical manifestations of an antigen reaction can range from mild (with minor skin manifestations over time) to those requiring immediate diagnosis and aggressive treatment to avoid respiratory and cardiovascular collapse which can lead to death.
(link below)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8399637/#:~:text=2.3.&text=The%20co...

A lot more people have died as a result of general anaesthetic of course. It's too high a risk in some patients, but the individual risk may not be known. Nonetheless, I'm sure you must have known someone who was unable to be operated on for that reason.

It all comes down to risk. We have arguably the best regulator in the world in the TGA. There is absolutely no way they would approve any therapy where the risk of the therapy is higher than that of the condition itself.

Thalidomide was one of the reasons the TGA was eventually formed in 1989.

At one time I tried to get a toxic chemical antidote approved from France. It took a lot of correspondance, but eventually after 2 years, it was given provisional approval.

So go ahead with your dental treatment and follow your dentist's advice. If you leave them too long, it could possibly shorten your life. That risk is higher than the risk of allergic reactions.

Of course antivaxxers should avoid the evil Big Pharma local anaesthetic and just suck it up. It's a matter of principle - right? Grin
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