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Reply #450 - Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 2:52pm

Big Donger wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 2:44pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 12:42pm:

Big Donger wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 8:05am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 7:42am:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 7:37am:

I think that's the point that is being ignored meister

Hospitalisations for kovid are trending down
But the death rate is trending up
And it is across all age groups

What is concerning is that big media appear to have no interest in any investigative journalism over this.

If we can't rely on the media to take up these causes on our behalf and in the interest of revealing the truth, who can we rely on?

Excuse me, Meister, are you saying ABC, BBC, CNN, SMH, the Tele, the Aust, the Guardian, the UK Daily Mail, etc, etc, etc, are not talking are not talking about this?

I'm confused.

Is it covid deaths? There have been no studies to determine the possible number of causes of excess deaths.

Covid is being assumed by health authorities but when they're pressed they suggest that also many people did not go to the doctor during the lockdown when they experienced symptoms of diseases other than covid.

What politicians and chief medicos are certain about is that it's not the vaccine contributing to excess deaths.

What justifies their certainty?

Big media isn't asking.

I'd say all those recorded as covid deaths in Australia have been tested for covid, Meister.

If it's Chi-na, that's another matter.

Why would the vaccine lead to covid deaths?

I'm curious myself.

The excess deaths are across all age ranges many of whom did not have covid.

There is growing suspicion that the mRNA spike protein, which can bond to all cells in the body, can affect the heart by causing the immune system to attack heart cells where the spike protein is present. A German study indicates that heart damage from those who died unexpectedly from myocarditis showed the presence of the spike protein around the damaged sites.

There need to be more studies done to confirm the link but, to date, anglosphere chief medicos have not called for any studies to confirm (or refute) the German one.

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Reply #451 - Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 5:01pm

original covid killed through lung damage,

remember the rush to buy 6000 ventilators ( no doubt gathering dust now).

but the 3000 extra deaths per week are mainly cardiac and it is across all age groups.

the highest % excess deaths are in the 20 to 40 yo group.

i'm surprised this isnt the subject of studies to see what is going on.

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Reply #452 - Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 6:07pm

Ee-gad, you're right. Here it is in the media:

https://m.timesofindia.com/life-style/health-fitness/health-news/coronavirus-vac...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2023/01/14/no-evidence-of-more-athletes-ha...

https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/studies-covid-19-vaccination-doesnt-incre...

https://www.kttc.com/2023/01/24/mayo-clinic-physician-weighs-covid-19-vaccine-su...

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-64209221

And here's the media criticising the previous media for reporting it:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jan/13/bbc-cardiologist-aseem-malhotra-li...

All we need is media saying there's not enough media reporting it.

Oh:

https://www.pharmacytimes.com/view/aha-reports-record-number-of-cardiovascular-d...

Ever get the feeling you've been farmed?

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Re: So many now dying suddenly
Reply #453 - Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 6:48pm

Big Donger wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 6:07pm:

Ee-gad, you're right. Here it is in the media:

https://m.timesofindia.com/life-style/health-fitness/health-news/coronavirus-vac...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2023/01/14/no-evidence-of-more-athletes-ha...

https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/studies-covid-19-vaccination-doesnt-incre...

https://www.kttc.com/2023/01/24/mayo-clinic-physician-weighs-covid-19-vaccine-su...

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-64209221

And here's the media criticising the previous media for reporting it:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jan/13/bbc-cardiologist-aseem-malhotra-li...

All we need is media saying there's not enough media reporting it.

Oh:

https://www.pharmacytimes.com/view/aha-reports-record-number-of-cardiovascular-d...

Ever get the feeling you've been farmed?

So we'll be seeing investigations into excess deaths throughout the anglosphere soon, then.

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Reply #454 - Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 7:44pm

If anyone believes that a full investigation into any link between mRNA vaccines' for covid and excess deaths is unwarranted, should look to the Thalidomide atrocity.

There are chilling parallels between pharmaceutical companies and drug distributors' methods to promote Thalidomide and what modern pharmaceutical companies and governments have done to promote mRNA.

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Reply #456 - Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 7:51pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 7:46pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 7:44pm:

If anyone believes that a full investigation into any link between mRNA vaccines' for covid and excess deaths ...

There are no "excess deaths".

Your investigation is based on a lie.

Even the Australian Bureau of Statistics has reported excess deaths for 2022.

In 2022, there were 144,650 deaths that occurred by 30 September and were registered by 30 November, which is 19,986 (16.0%) more than the historical average. - ABS: for 1 Jan to 30 Sep.

That's over 550 per week.

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Reply #457 - Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 8:03pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 7:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 7:46pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 7:44pm:

If anyone believes that a full investigation into any link between mRNA vaccines' for covid and excess deaths ...

There are no "excess deaths".

Your investigation is based on a lie.

Even the Australian Bureau of Statistics has reported excess deaths for 2022.

In 2022, there were 144,650 deaths that occurred by 30 September and were registered by 30 November, which is 19,986 (16.0%) more than the historical average. - ABS: for 1 Jan to 30 Sep.

That's over 550 per week.

Have you heard of a little virus called COVID-19?

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Re: So many now dying suddenly
Reply #458 - Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 8:07pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 8:03pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 7:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 7:46pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 7:44pm:

If anyone believes that a full investigation into any link between mRNA vaccines' for covid and excess deaths ...

There are no "excess deaths".

Your investigation is based on a lie.

Even the Australian Bureau of Statistics has reported excess deaths for 2022.

In 2022, there were 144,650 deaths that occurred by 30 September and were registered by 30 November, which is 19,986 (16.0%) more than the historical average. - ABS: for 1 Jan to 30 Sep.

That's over 550 per week.

Have you heard of a little virus called COVID-19?

So, there should be no investigation, then?

Your attitude on this is the reason the Thalidomide atrocity occurred as it did.

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Re: So many now dying suddenly
Reply #459 - Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 8:14pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 8:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 8:03pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 7:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 7:46pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 7:44pm:

If anyone believes that a full investigation into any link between mRNA vaccines' for covid and excess deaths ...

There are no "excess deaths".

Your investigation is based on a lie.

Even the Australian Bureau of Statistics has reported excess deaths for 2022.

In 2022, there were 144,650 deaths that occurred by 30 September and were registered by 30 November, which is 19,986 (16.0%) more than the historical average. - ABS: for 1 Jan to 30 Sep.

That's over 550 per week.

Have you heard of a little virus called COVID-19?

So, there should be no investigation, then?

Your attitude on this is the reason the Thalidomide atrocity occurred as it did.

Go for it.

I'm pretty sure that they'll find the extra deaths were due to a little pandemic you might have heard about.

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Re: So many now dying suddenly
Reply #460 - Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 8:21pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 8:14pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 8:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 8:03pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 7:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 7:46pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 7:44pm:

If anyone believes that a full investigation into any link between mRNA vaccines' for covid and excess deaths ...

There are no "excess deaths".

Your investigation is based on a lie.

Even the Australian Bureau of Statistics has reported excess deaths for 2022.

In 2022, there were 144,650 deaths that occurred by 30 September and were registered by 30 November, which is 19,986 (16.0%) more than the historical average. - ABS: for 1 Jan to 30 Sep.

That's over 550 per week.

Have you heard of a little virus called COVID-19?

So, there should be no investigation, then?

Your attitude on this is the reason the Thalidomide atrocity occurred as it did.

Go for it.

I'm pretty sure that they'll find the extra deaths were due to a little pandemic you might have heard about.

And how do you know that? The voices?

Investigations of this kind are conducted to conclusively determine the cause of something. There is no other way of determining with maximal confidence the root causes of anything - not scientifically, at least.

Anyway, I thought alpha males disgust you. What kind of people do you think run big pharma companies?

Check out Merck over Vioxx.

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Re: So many now dying suddenly
Reply #461 - Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 8:26pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 8:21pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 8:14pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 8:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 8:03pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 7:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 7:46pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 7:44pm:

If anyone believes that a full investigation into any link between mRNA vaccines' for covid and excess deaths ...

There are no "excess deaths".

Your investigation is based on a lie.

Even the Australian Bureau of Statistics has reported excess deaths for 2022.

In 2022, there were 144,650 deaths that occurred by 30 September and were registered by 30 November, which is 19,986 (16.0%) more than the historical average. - ABS: for 1 Jan to 30 Sep.

That's over 550 per week.

Have you heard of a little virus called COVID-19?

So, there should be no investigation, then?

Your attitude on this is the reason the Thalidomide atrocity occurred as it did.

Go for it.

I'm pretty sure that they'll find the extra deaths were due to a little pandemic you might have heard about.

And how do you know that?

I guess it just seems obvious to normal people that when a deadly pandemic is killing people all over that world that that might have something to do with any higher than normal death rates.

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Re: So many now dying suddenly
Reply #462 - Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 8:34pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 8:26pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 8:21pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 8:14pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 8:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 8:03pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 7:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 7:46pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 7:44pm:

If anyone believes that a full investigation into any link between mRNA vaccines' for covid and excess deaths ...

There are no "excess deaths".

Your investigation is based on a lie.

Even the Australian Bureau of Statistics has reported excess deaths for 2022.

In 2022, there were 144,650 deaths that occurred by 30 September and were registered by 30 November, which is 19,986 (16.0%) more than the historical average. - ABS: for 1 Jan to 30 Sep.

That's over 550 per week.

Have you heard of a little virus called COVID-19?

So, there should be no investigation, then?

Your attitude on this is the reason the Thalidomide atrocity occurred as it did.

Go for it.

I'm pretty sure that they'll find the extra deaths were due to a little pandemic you might have heard about.

And how do you know that?

I guess it just seems obvious to normal people that when a deadly pandemic is killing people all over that world that that might have something to do with any higher than normal death rates.

Normal people, eh? Do you know any?

There are possibly muliple causes of excess deaths but there appears to be a correlation between vaccine uptake in the west and excess deaths that is not being reported in thrid-world countries where vaccine use was low. The vaccine may or may not be part of the cause - only an investigation can determine if there is a link.

There was a time when 'normal people' were assured smoking did not cause lung cancer and asbestos did not cause mesothelioma.

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Reply #463 - Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 11:43pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 7:51pm:

...Even the Australian Bureau of Statistics has reported excess deaths for 2022.

In 2022, there were 144,650 deaths that occurred by 30 September and were registered by 30 November, which is 19,986 (16.0%) more than the historical average. - ABS: for 1 Jan to 30 Sep.

And the rest of those stats:

The age-standardised death rate (SDR) for September 2022
was 43.9 deaths per 100,000 people.

September was the first month that the rate for 2022 was
BELOW the baseline average of 44.8 deaths per 100,000 people.

And of the 19,968 excess deaths, only 232 of those deaths in
October were due to COVID, or 1.2% of them.

—I have to apologise for shooting down your argument. Wink

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Reply #464 - Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 11:46pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 8:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 8:26pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 8:21pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 8:14pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 8:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 8:03pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 7:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 7:46pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 7:44pm:

If anyone believes that a full investigation into any link between mRNA vaccines' for covid and excess deaths ...

There are no "excess deaths".

Your investigation is based on a lie.

Even the Australian Bureau of Statistics has reported excess deaths for 2022.

In 2022, there were 144,650 deaths that occurred by 30 September and were registered by 30 November, which is 19,986 (16.0%) more than the historical average. - ABS: for 1 Jan to 30 Sep.

That's over 550 per week.

Have you heard of a little virus called COVID-19?

So, there should be no investigation, then?

Your attitude on this is the reason the Thalidomide atrocity occurred as it did.

Go for it.

I'm pretty sure that they'll find the extra deaths were due to a little pandemic you might have heard about.

And how do you know that?

I guess it just seems obvious to normal people that when a deadly pandemic is killing people all over that world that that might have something to do with any higher than normal death rates.

Normal people, eh? Do you know any?

There are possibly muliple causes of excess deaths but there appears to be a correlation between vaccine uptake in the west and excess deaths that is not being reported in thrid-world countries where vaccine use was low. The vaccine may or may not be part of the cause - only an investigation can determine if there is a link.

There was a time when 'normal people' were assured smoking did not cause lung cancer and asbestos did not cause mesothelioma.

Maybe it's Jewish space lasers.

Both theories have the same amount of evidence supporting them.

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