AusGeoff wrote on Nov 10^th, 2022 at 8:49pm:


Although these stats are 7 months old, 60/Million and 8/Million is still roughly a ratio of 8 to 1/Million in ICU(60/8=7.5). I was speaking about the chances of dying from this virus(which is all that matters). Once you're in the ICU, you are in a critical stage of this disease. And, depending on what other chronic comorbidities you might have, your prognosis is not very good.

But again, this observation does NOT exist in Australia. And, this ratio has absolutely no relevance at all, in an over-90% vaccinated Australian population. In this population, there are many times more vaccinated people being hospitalized, in ICU's, on ventilators, or dying from this virus.

I am certainly not saying/implying that this vaccine alone has zero affect on this virus. I'm saying that vaccines alone can't determine the outcome of the disease. There are just too many variables to include, before claiming that being vaccinated is the causal link. Correlation does not mean causality. People die from this disease, because their immune system is either compromised, or is under/over performing. Not whether they are vaccinated or not.

Since this virus also infects people RANDOMLY, creating "chance" constructs is also irrelevant. And, since hospital intakes also vary each day, it's not hard to find a daily or a weekly stat, that can support any self-serving confirmation biased narrative you want. Or, you can just find the right stats you want from another country.

AusGeoff wrote on Nov 10^th, 2022 at 8:49pm:


Between Jan. 19th, 2020 and Feb.15, 2021(no vaccines available), there was a total of 28,900 cases(41 active), and 909 deaths(median age 86yo) from/with this disease. Between Feb. 16, 2021 and Dec. 31, 2021, there was an additional 366,604 cases (395,504 total), and 1,327 more deaths(2,239 total) from/with this disease. Between Jan. 1st, 2022 and Nov. 11, 2022, there was an additional 10,078,592 cases (10,474,096 total), and 13,619 more deaths(15,858 total) from this disease.

There have also been 10,364,130 people who have recovered from this virus. That is roughly a 99% recovery rate(98.95%). This represents from the time vaccines were available, a 362 fold increase in the number of cases. And, a 17.4 fold increase in the deaths from/with this virus. 

So, unless we have a different definition of the word "reduce", these stats clearly show that the introduction of vaccines have NOT reduced the numbers of those infected, or the numbers of those dying from this virus.

AusGeoff wrote on Nov 10^th, 2022 at 8:49pm:


What is surprising is your contradiction. First you say, "Wrong!  Of course the vaccines have reduced the death rate from COVID.". And then you agree with me that more people HAVE died from this virus since vaccines were introduced? So, which is it? Do vaccines REDUCE the number of those infected, or those dying from this virus? Or not?

Do you still believe that there are 8 times more unvaccinated people in ICU's than vaccinated? Do you  believe that there are more unvaccinated people dying, than vaccinated people from this virus?

At the end of the day, the average number of people dying each day from/with this virus(over a 1,027 day period), is 15.4 people. And, an average of around 10K cases are being reported each day. This sounds like a lot of cases without context. But with around 15,353 suburbs throughout Australia, this is less than 1 person per suburb becoming infected. There are  around 466 people dying each day in Australia. Covid-19 related deaths represents only 3% of this total. This means, that it would be unlikely that you would personally know anyone who has died from this virus.

Now this is the reality that I'm seeing. What am I NOT seeing in yours?
 

[quote author=wombatwoody link=1658995045/407#407 date=1668239566]

While jabbering in fierce defense of Trudeau's "vaccine" mandate, Trudeau's lawyer keels over

And seven other videos of people "dying suddenly" or just collapsing, in the US, Lebanon, Brazil, India (3) and maybe elsewhere, too - Somewhere in the West, and maybe in some “vaccination” center, a notably “adverse reaction”

https://markcrispinmiller.substack.com/p/while-jabbering-in-fierce-defense [/quote]

I have seen so many live on air collapses it’s awful.

Here’s one with Dan the man present to witness a person dropping.

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSRTAoWV7/

Sophia wrote on Nov 12^th, 2022 at 6:46pm:

Can you please cite a report confirming the junior netball player's fainting
was directly connected with her having been vaccinated recently. 

The reports don't indicate any specific cause, such as exhaustion, or
dehydration, or simply stress for example.

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Sophia wrote on Nov 13^th, 2022 at 7:19am:

So your implication that a COVID vaccination was responsible for the girl
fainting was erroneous after all?  There's nothing to see here then—I agree,
because you just made up a fanciful story.    Tsk, tsk.

It's starting !!

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When it's time to go nobody wants to linger.