greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 5^th, 2022 at 2:53pm:


Another pro-vaxer bites the dust. Who's next ??

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 5^th, 2022 at 10:41am:


The forum owner knows what greggy is. 
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Little pecca spreading lies and misinformation again.What a dopey loser he is.


Here are 93 studies on Ivermectin all show positive results in treating Kung Flu.
https://c19ivm.org/meta.html

If you click on Home with that link it takes you to studies on other drugs used to treat covid.

I really wish people would stop calling people "Antivaxxers". This is just not true. I believe that these people ARE "ANTI-Covid-2-genetically-engineered vaccines. I think they all believe that they have the right to choose what to put into their body or onto their face. Most of these people have had themselves and their children vaccinated against early childhood diseases. So, they are NOT "Antivaxxers". They are "Pro Choicers".

Pro Choicers believe that they should NOT be coerced, shamed, forced, or socially ostracized, into putting something into their body, that forces normal muscles cells to start producing viral pathogens and antigens. Just to mimic an infection.

Once we start going down this cost-efficient road, by producing lab-created bio-instructions(mRNA), to force normal cells to produce designer proteins, we can now force our cells  to  produce any proteins we want. This could become a very dangerous slippery slope(Remember, poisons are also proteins). And, when you also take away our right to choose NOT to be injected, we're now talking about our indifference to "medical fascism", and government-overreach. 

Even if masks were 99.9% effective, 0.1% is a lot of viruses getting through. One sneeze can produce 40,000 droplets with a viral load per droplet of <2 x 10^5 viruses. That's around 8 Billion viruses per sneeze. Or, 8 Million viruses getting through the mask. Remember, it only takes around 100 viruses to infect you.

There is nothing that man can do to prevent any virus from entering your body and infecting you. As long as you can breathe air, a virus can enter your body and infect you.

Vaccines do NOT fight pathogens and antigens. It's our immune system that does. The condition of our immune system is all that matters. And, considering the fact, that over 98%+ of people before and after vaccines have survived, I think that our natural immune system has been more than adequate in protecting us from this microorganism.

Vaccines do not prevent everyone from being infected, spreading, or even dying from this virus. The mortality rate has been consistent in Australia for almost 3 years. The overwhelming majority of deaths, are  from the elderly. And, from those with other serious comorbidities, or with an already compromised immune system.

This virus has a mortality rate lower than that of the measles. And, taking medications will also help manage the symptoms and the transmission. 

Doctors can't cure or heal the body of anything. Doctors can only destroy, remove, replace, repair, and manage the symptoms of a disease. But, it is only the body that can actually cure and heal the body. As long as the condition/illness is not too far advanced(cirrhosis), the stem cells in different parts of the body will heal, repair, and cure itself. It won't look like the original, but it will be close enough. Doctors can only assist in this natural process.

If anyone falls into the high risk categories, they should take this vaccine. It does do what it is suppose to do. And, it does it very well. Sometimes, a little too well. But for most of us it's just not necessary.

ShellShilo wrote on Nov 5^th, 2022 at 4:47pm:

Well, as far as the COVID vaccines are concerned, you ARE an anti-vaxxer.
We're not talking about measles, or any other communicable virus.  You're
against subjecting yourself to this vaccination.    QED.

(Merriam-Webster defines "anti-vaxxer" as a person who opposes the use of
some or all vaccines, regulations mandating vaccination, or usually both.)

So...

According to data published in Scientific American, 7 June this year, the
death rate of unvaccinated individuals was 1.71/100,000 whilst the death
rate for the  vaccinated was 0.22/100,000. 

In simple terms then, the unvaccinated have eight times the COVID
death rate of the vaccinated.  Presumably you're prepared to accept
that far higher risk?  And also the risks of being an asymptomatic carrier of
the virus, and passing it on unwittingly to your family and friends?

As of July 15 2022, Australia had administered approximately 58,022,000
doses of COVID  vaccines, with a reported number of deaths suspected
as directly attributable to the vaccine being 13 in total, which equates to a
1 in 4,463,000 chance of dying from one dose of the vaccines. 

Do those low odds really frighten you sufficiently in order to refuse a
vaccination?  That's actually lower than the odds of being struck by
lightening at 1 in 1,222,000,  being attacked by a shark at 1 in 3,700,000,
or dying in a hurricane at 1 in 62,300.

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 5^th, 2022 at 9:04pm:


I agree with this definition, as the formal and extended definition of an "anti-vaxxer". But I was referring to the general and the more informal definition of the word. This definition simply states that "anti-vaxxers" are against ALL vaccines, and all forced/mandatory vaccinations. But this is NOT an argument over semantics, is it? I think most people would agree, that if you are "anti" something, that you are against that something. This is simply a convenient media label that is more adjunct than relevant. 

Before vaccines were available, there were no coid-19  "anti-vaxxers". When vaccines became available and un-mandated, there were no covid-19 anti-vaxxers. But once the government told people that they couldn't work, couldn't shop, couldn't eat in restaurants, or couldn't travel interstate, unless they had proof that they were vaccinated or uninfected, then people began protesting. Why do you think they were protesting? Do you really think that they were protesting against the efficacy of Covid-19 vaccines? Or, was it the loss of their freedoms?

They protested against being forced to be injected(My Body, My Choice!) with this vaccine. They were also against all medical mandates, lockdowns, and the criminalization of their non-compliance with health orders. So, the media labeled them as "ANTI-VAXXERS". NOT "PRO-CHOICERS". Not as people trying to defend their right to make their own medical decisions. 

But, calling them Defenders of the Right of Choice, just wouldn't give the media the optics they wanted. So, they blanketed them with another nonsense label, "Anti-Vaxxers". This way, people would simply ignore their real cause and purpose. And, would focus only on the media's tag. Bad optics averted!

Again, how much of your freedoms are you willing to give-up to the government, to save you from a flu virus less lethal than the measles?? How many freedoms of other Australians are you willing to sacrifice, to save them from this virus?? How many businesses and lives of your fellow Australians, are you willing to let the government destroy, just for the greater good?

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 5^th, 2022 at 9:04pm:


I have no idea what these results from another country have to do with Australia. You're becoming just a victim of your own confirmation bias. You keep ignoring the obvious elephant in the room. Namely, that NO VACCINATED PERSON IS SUPPOSE TO DIE AT ALL!

Why are vaccinated people dying? Could it be that their immune system is being compromised, or is under/over preforming? Could there be other factors that also affect these mortalities? Other than if they are vaccinated or not? 

Just think a minute. If over 95% of the Australian population is vaccinated, then one would expect the majority of people dying with/from this virus, would be from those vaccinated. This is exactly what we are seeing today. You can't just rationalize or dismiss this fact.

You can't just creatively use the data from other countries, without also providing some relevance and context. Nor, can you use a guy from  another country, who initially refused treatment because of his religious beliefs, and then claim that his death was caused by his own skepticism. 

We are told, that this virus spreads mainly when we sneeze, cough, spit, etc. These symptoms are examples of our immune response trying to get rid of the virus. We even wear masks to reduce this spread. Yet now we are claiming, that anyone who does NOT exhibit these symptoms can also spread this virus. Other than some viral shedding, exactly how do asymptomatic carriers(have no symptoms throughout infection) spread this virus asymptomatically?

This was simply a ploy to infer that everyone in Australia can be unknowingly infected. And that they also must be vaccinated. Just to be safe. But the daily testing have proven that over 90% of Australians have tested  NEGATIVE to this virus. Even our pets weren't safe from becoming the next vaccine candidates. Until the Vets stepped in to stop it. But no one stopped our very young from being exploited.   

I also agree with you, that the risk of any adverse events associated with this vaccine, is negligible. But, if you are NOT in any of the high risk categories, then this risk is just an unnecessary risk.

This is NOT an Ebola or Rabies pandemic. This is NOT a state of war, a massive bushfire or gas leak, or even a dangerous weather anomaly. This is a flu virus with a mortality rate of around 1%. Which hasn't changed in almost 3 years. Regardless of how serious the media tries to spin this virus, the stats just don't support their spin. This is just theatre, and a lot of smoke and mirrors.

   
 

ShellShilo wrote on Nov 5^th, 2022 at 4:47pm:

Well considering the track record of 'Western Medicine' especially out of America. I never once blamed the fear of those people who refused the Vaccine. I think they had every right to say no. How can you trust Medicine from nations more apt at winning wars?
I did support the enforcement of every other protective measure like Lockdowns, masks, etc.
But for fast-tracked Vaccines that could be just as bad as Thalidomide was pumped into women, I believe the fear of such things by people was justified.

As I expected, Sir Lastnail was unable or chose not to address my
comments directed at him in my Reply #351 above.

At least now we know he's full of bullshit, confirmed by this failure.

I'm guessing that most people here have already figured this out, but
at the least, I've now provided evidence confirming it once and for all.