Bobby. wrote on Jul 23
rd, 2022 at 6:29pm:
Karnal wrote on Jul 23
rd, 2022 at 6:23pm:
John Smith wrote on Jul 23
rd, 2022 at 5:26pm:
Karnal wrote on Jul 23
rd, 2022 at 4:59pm:
Maybe it's not who he was running from, JS, but where he was running to.
I get it now. He was trying to find Pence?
I can see why he wouldn't want to let a perfectly good set of gallows go to waste
That's it. You see now? When the Superior Man is presented with lemons, he makes lemonade.
And yes, as multiple Oath Keepers and Proud Boys testified, if they had caught Mike Pence, they would have strung him up. As Dear Leader said, they weren't there to shoot
him. As Dear Leader even admitted, hanging Mike Pence may not be such a bad idea...
Stand back and stand by - that's some plan to bounce out of bed on Jan 6 for, no?
Oh, they say, but Dear Leader never really meant any of it, he was just having a bit of fun.
Then you pull out the tweets and the interviews and the meeting records and the sworn witness statements and you point out the scheme from go to woe - there.
Okay, they say, so he meant it. So what?
So what if the polls showed he'd lose? So what if he planned a few tricks to stay in power? So what if he planned - and implemented - to attack the US government, hang his own Vice President and overturn a presidential election?
So what?
To be honest, JS, I'm not sure what you can say after that.
Damn right -
Trump won that election - it was stolen by invalid votes.
That's not what Mr Trump thinks, Bobby. Remember Bill Barr?
He's the guy you and the Light used to fondly call AG. A tough guy, a real Trump man. Remember him?
One night, just before Jan 6 at 8pm, Bill sat down with Mr Trump and showed him. They spent nearly two hours in the Oval Office, going over every single rumour - ballot dumps, Dominion switching votes, Hugo Chavez, the lot. Bill showed Mr Trump - in detail - how the votes were counted, and where. Every contested state. Mr Trump asked him about a story he'd heard about ballot dumps in a part of Detroit. Bill told him that's how they do it there - they count all the votes in one spot. Oh, and Mr Trump
won those votes.
In the end, Mr Trump wasn't happy, but there was nothing he could say. AG Barr, a Trump man to the bone, had the FBI investigate the 2020 election - that wasn't even the DOJ's job, but he'd done it for the boss. Mr Trump sent Bill home. Bill quit the next day.
On Jan 6, Mr Trump gave his rally speech. Bill watched. He heard Mr Trump repeating stories Bill had thoroughly debunked, including Detroit. Was Bill surprised?
No. He knew how Mr Trump worked. As you know, Mr Trump told over 20,000 lies while he was in office, it's just how he ran. Read the Art of the Deal if you don't believe me, but it was no shock to Bill Barr. What Bill knew, however, is that Mr Trump knew one thing without a doubt: the election had not been stolen from him. Mr Trump had lost, and he knew it.
But do you know? AG didn't need to tell Mr Trump anything Mr Trump's own family and some staff and friends like Hannity hadn't been telling him for weeks: give up. Be a man. Admit you've lost and move on. Bill didn't tell Mr Trump that, but everybody close to him did. The exceptions?
Rudy. Sidney. Roger Stone, John Eastman, and the pillow magnate, Mike Liddell, who advised Mr Trump to launch a military coup. They hung around the White House, getting on everybody's nerves.
Also, every one of them asked Mr Trump for a pardon - just in case. Mr Trump even asked the lawyers if he could pardon himself, over his Ukraine call and other crimes. He was told that was untested, but in all likelihood, no. That one probably wouldn't wash. Mr Trump never did end up pardoning Rudy and all the hangers-on.
He never paid them either.
So no, Bobby, Mr Trump had nothing stolen from him, but more importantly, he knew it. If he ever faces a court for the above crimes, and he feigns ignorance or insanity or bad advice or just bad luck, that won't wash either. Mr Trump, prez, knows better than anybody, and it hurts like hell. Look at the dumb look on his face in your meme. He lost.
You?