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Jul 11th, 2022 at 1:10pm
 
"A group of YouTubers called Fast Lane Truck tested electric and gas-powered trucks to see how far they could haul a trailer, and the results seemed to speak for themselves.

The test was between an electric Ford F-150 pickup and a GMC Denali Ultimate Edition featuring a gas engine, the Independent Journal Review reported Thursday.

The crew left Longmont, Colorado, with the goal of making it to a fast-charging station in Pueblo, the outlet continued:

The F150 charged up and the GMC filled up before taking to the road. The electric truck’s computer estimated 160 miles of range, which included calculating for the size and weight of the trailer. The gas-powered GMC’s computer, also taking the trailer into account, estimated 264 miles of range.

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The electric truck had only traveled 6 miles when the computer recalculated range from 160 to 150 miles, cutting things very close if it was to reach Pueblo. That called for a change of plans — the new charging stop was Colorado Springs, about 45 miles closer.

Fifty miles into the journey, the electric pickup reportedly could not reach Colorado Springs, so the driver later headed toward Castle Rock.

But the gas pickup’s computer apparently said it had 129 miles of range, which was enough to get back to Longmont."

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2022/07/07/watch-youtubers-claim-experiment-with-...
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Reply #1 - Jul 11th, 2022 at 4:01pm
 
what i want answered is how 300 million americans are going to recharge their vehicles at night when the sun isnt shining.

not solar, not wind, not nuclear.

they are going to have to burn fossil fuels to create electricity to charge the car.

is that logical ??
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Reply #2 - Jul 25th, 2022 at 2:36pm
 
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Reply #3 - Jul 25th, 2022 at 4:09pm
 
All EVs sold in Australia are covered by at least an eight-year battery pack warranty,
which guarantees against any construction defects as well as maintaining more than
70% over that period of time.

High-voltage battery warranties for EVs sold in Australia:

    Audi – eight years/160,000km
    BYD – seven years/160,000km

    Hyundai – eight years/160,000km
    Kia – seven years/150,000km on HV battery

    Mercedes-Benz – eight years/160,000km
    MG – seven years/unlimited (commercial limited to 160,000km)

    MINI – seven years/100,000km
    Nissan – eight years/160,000km

    Polestar – eight years/160,000km
    Tesla Model S – eight years/240,000km

    Model X – eight years/240,000km
    Model 3/Y rear wheel drive – eight years/160,000km

    Model 3 Performance/Long Range – eight years/192,000km
    Model Y Performance – eight years/192,000km
    Volvo – eight years/unlimited

Global battery production costs have dropped to approximately US$125/kWh, meaning for
example that car-makers are buying a 100kWh battery pack for $12,500 before they’ve
even dropped it into the car.

Hyundai for its Kona Electric?  $13,465.97 before fitment and labour costs.    Ouch!    Cry

Financial analysts predict the price of battery production will fall below US$100/kWh by
2025—a benchmark figure that will make the cost to produce EVs on par with conventional
vehicles – and to less than US$80/kWh by 2030.

CarSales, How much does it cost to replace an EV battery? 22 July 2022.


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Reply #4 - Jul 25th, 2022 at 8:20pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jul 11th, 2022 at 4:01pm:
what i want answered is how 300 million americans are going to recharge their vehicles at night when the sun isnt shining.

not solar, not wind, not nuclear.

they are going to have to burn fossil fuels to create electricity to charge the car.

is that logical ??

Many factors to weigh up but electric cars already have their place and right now i could be charging my electric vehicle using wind power in SA as it is plentifull, if i had an electric car that is. Electric cars don't suit my needs but for those in the city they should switch.
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Reply #5 - Jul 25th, 2022 at 9:05pm
 
1.05GW from wind in SA at 6pm. Out of over 7GW not exactly plentiful.
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Reply #6 - Jul 25th, 2022 at 9:19pm
 
lee wrote on Jul 25th, 2022 at 9:05pm:
1.05GW from wind in SA at 6pm. Out of over 7GW not exactly plentiful.


Its just a bit of a lull, normally the windy mills are cranking so hard in SA they have to switch off the solar panels during the day.
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Reply #7 - Jul 26th, 2022 at 12:26am
 
Something to ponder ...

As seen on Facebook:

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This machine is required to move 500 tons of earth/ ore which will be refined into one lithium car battery. It burns 900-1000 gallons of fuel in a 12 hour shift. Lithium is refined from ore using sulfuric acid. The proposed lithium mine at Thacker Pass is estimated to require up to 75 semi loads of sulfuric acid a day! The acid does not turn into unicorn food like the whack job AOC believes. A battery in an electric car, lets say an average Tesla, is made of 25 pounds of lithium, 60 pounds of nickel, 44 pounds of manganese, 30 pounds of cobalt, 200 pounds of copper, and 400 pounds of aluminum,  steel, and plastic, etc...... averaging 750-1,000 pounds of minerals, that had to be mined and processed into a battery that merely stores electricity..... Electricity which is generated by oil, gas, coal, or water (and a tiny fraction of wind and solar).... That is the truth, about the lie, of so-called "green" energy". There’s nothing green about the green new deal.
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Reply #8 - Jul 26th, 2022 at 12:26pm
 
Johnnie wrote on Jul 25th, 2022 at 9:19pm:
Its just a bit of a lull, normally the windy mills are cranking so hard in SA they have to switch off the solar panels during the day.


Yeah I saw where renewables provided power for a full four DAYS.

I see it has been up to 2GW today.

https://anero.id/energy

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Reply #9 - Jul 26th, 2022 at 1:07pm
 
Captain Nemo wrote on Jul 26th, 2022 at 12:26am:
A battery in an electric car, lets say an average Tesla, is made of 25 pounds of lithium, 60 pounds of nickel, 44 pounds of manganese, 30 pounds of cobalt, 200 pounds of copper, and 400 pounds of aluminum,  steel, and plastic, etc...... averaging 750-1,000 pounds of minerals, that had to be mined and processed into a battery


That's obscene

Is all that stuff recyclable at the end of the battery's life?

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Reply #10 - Jul 26th, 2022 at 1:42pm
 
Bias_2012 wrote on Jul 26th, 2022 at 1:07pm:
Captain Nemo wrote on Jul 26th, 2022 at 12:26am:
A battery in an electric car, lets say an average Tesla, is made of 25 pounds of lithium, 60 pounds of nickel, 44 pounds of manganese, 30 pounds of cobalt, 200 pounds of copper, and 400 pounds of aluminum,  steel, and plastic, etc...... averaging 750-1,000 pounds of minerals, that had to be mined and processed into a battery


That's obscene

Is all that stuff recyclable at the end of the battery's life?



Most of it would be able to be recycled. So that's something I suppose.

There is a company called NEOMETALS LTD that is developing industrial scale lithium battery recycling.

Maybe get on board? ASX: NMT


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