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Reply #135 - Mar 19^th, 2024 at 1:21am

Bobby. wrote on Mar 18^th, 2024 at 3:16pm:

Sudden EV Explosion..

Very dramatic, but not real as reported. It's a movie setup.

Li-ion batteries don't result in an instantaneous explosive force like that.
Thermal runaway is a relatively slow progressive process—all the cells
in the battery don't suddenly ignite at the same time.

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Reply #136 - Mar 19^th, 2024 at 6:24am

AusGeoff wrote on Mar 19^th, 2024 at 1:21am:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 18^th, 2024 at 3:16pm:

Sudden EV Explosion..

Very dramatic, but not real as reported. It's a movie setup.

Li-ion batteries don't result in an instantaneous explosive force like that.
Thermal runaway is a relatively slow progressive process—all the cells
in the battery don't suddenly ignite at the same time.

I can't find any evidence to back up your claim.

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Reply #137 - Mar 19^th, 2024 at 8:46am

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19^th, 2024 at 6:24am:

AusGeoff wrote on Mar 19^th, 2024 at 1:21am:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 18^th, 2024 at 3:16pm:

Sudden EV Explosion..

Very dramatic, but not real as reported. It's a movie setup.

Li-ion batteries don't result in an instantaneous explosive force like that.
Thermal runaway is a relatively slow progressive process—all the cells
in the battery don't suddenly ignite at the same time.

I can't find any evidence to back up your claim.

Which means simply that you don't understand the mechanics
of Li-ion cells thermal runaway.

They don't "explode" instantaneously like a stick of dynamite.

Watch this video for a typical (and genuine!) EV fire:

The 18650 3.7V cells that power most EVs are exactly identical to
the ones that power your laptop, electric bike or scooter, torches,
or cordless power tools.

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Reply #139 - Mar 20^th, 2024 at 4:09am

AusGeoff wrote on Mar 19^th, 2024 at 1:21am:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 18^th, 2024 at 3:16pm:

Sudden EV Explosion..

Very dramatic, but not real as reported. It's a movie setup.

Li-ion batteries don't result in an instantaneous explosive force like that.
Thermal runaway is a relatively slow progressive process—all the cells
in the battery don't suddenly ignite at the same time.

This whole Electric Vehicle gimmick is a dead end.
You don't see NASA using this path for its Probes.

I've always said : Atomic is the way to go!

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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.

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Reply #140 - Mar 20^th, 2024 at 6:37am

AusGeoff wrote on Mar 19^th, 2024 at 8:46am:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19^th, 2024 at 6:24am:

AusGeoff wrote on Mar 19^th, 2024 at 1:21am:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 18^th, 2024 at 3:16pm:

Sudden EV Explosion..

Very dramatic, but not real as reported. It's a movie setup.

Li-ion batteries don't result in an instantaneous explosive force like that.
Thermal runaway is a relatively slow progressive process—all the cells
in the battery don't suddenly ignite at the same time.

I can't find any evidence to back up your claim.

Which means simply that you don't understand the mechanics
of Li-ion cells thermal runaway.

They don't "explode" instantaneously like a stick of dynamite.

Watch this video for a typical (and genuine!) EV fire:

The 18650 3.7V cells that power most EVs are exactly identical to
the ones that power your laptop, electric bike or scooter, torches,
or cordless power tools.

You do have a point.
each little cell blows up one at a time so I don't see how
the car can be lifted up many meters into the air. Undecided

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 115967 Melbourne Gender:	Re: EV batteries are dangerous. Reply #141 - Mar 20^th, 2024 at 6:38am Jasin wrote on Mar 20^th, 2024 at 4:06am: I blame Moslems. Strange though, they usually use white vans. Not the Jews? Don't they normally get blamed for everything?
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AusGeoff Gold Member Offline Sage of Gippsland Posts: 6025 Victoria Gender:	Re: EV batteries are dangerous. Reply #142 - Mar 20^th, 2024 at 7:26am There are four major failure mechanisms of LI-ion cells: Overcharging, forced discharge, mechanical deformation, and external thermal heating. So you can be pretty sure that your mobile phone ain't gonna explode in your pocket and instantly fry your genitals LOL.
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Reply #143 - Mar 20^th, 2024 at 9:29am

Some of these videos by Bobbie are evidently fake because how could a person with a phone capture an EV exploding and being propelled 5 metres vertically if they did not know it was going to happen?

Other incidents are similar. The person capturing the video must have known the incident being videoed was about to happen.

I wonder how many of these bogus videos are funded and propagated by Tesla.

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Reply #144 - Mar 20^th, 2024 at 11:34am

Laugh till you cry wrote on Mar 20^th, 2024 at 9:29am:

Some of these videos by Bobbie are evidently fake because how could a person with a phone capture an EV exploding and being propelled 5 metres vertically if they did not know it was going to happen?

Other incidents are similar. The person capturing the video must have known the incident being videoed was about to happen.

I wonder how many of these bogus videos are funded and propagated by Tesla.

Who knows?

Not all of the videos in that clip were bullshit. Roll Eyes

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Reply #145 - Mar 21^st, 2024 at 3:11pm

AusGeoff wrote on Mar 20^th, 2024 at 7:26am:

There are four major failure mechanisms of LI-ion cells:

Overcharging, forced discharge, mechanical deformation,
and external thermal heating.

So you can be pretty sure that your mobile phone ain't gonna
explode in your pocket and instantly fry your genitals LOL.

And not all lithium ion batteries are created equal. Wink

https://expion360.com/blogs/news/comparing-pricey-lithium-batteries-to-cheaper-o...

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 115967 Melbourne Gender:	Re: EV batteries are dangerous. Reply #146 - Jun 11^th, 2024 at 6:19pm
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Reply #147 - Jun 11^th, 2024 at 6:26pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2022 at 10:00pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2022 at 9:48pm:

Looks pretty lame compared to a petrol fire. Even the bottles of clag glue we used in primary school could put on more of a show.

I'm sorry that those videos failed to impress you.

Don't get the batteries anywhere near water, Bobby.

If you do you'll end up being eaten by a shark.

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Reply #148 - Jun 11^th, 2024 at 6:33pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 6:26pm:

Don't get the batteries anywhere near water, Bobby.

If you do you'll end up being eaten by a shark.

What on earth is he going on about now?

Oh, boy... if this clown becomes President of the United States again the world is doomed.

Doomed, I tell you.

I believe the first comment for that video says it all:

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@steven0837
17 hours ago (edited)
I think I just got stupider after hearing him . . .

Me too, Steven... me too.

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Reply #149 - Jun 11^th, 2024 at 6:39pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 6:33pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 6:26pm:

Don't get the batteries anywhere near water, Bobby.

If you do you'll end up being eaten by a shark.

What on earth is he going on about now?

He's completely lost it. Lost his last marble.

First, he told us that magnets lose their magnetism when they get wet, and now he believes that if a battery goes under water, and you're in the water with it, you'll be electrocuted or eaten by a shark.

He is totally insane.

(Also a convicted felon and a filthy rapist)

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