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Re: Matt Walsh date with a Feminist
Reply #75 - Jun 15^th, 2022 at 3:03pm

Frank wrote on Jun 15^th, 2022 at 9:24am:

Gender is a grammatical term. Feminine, masculine, neuter - he she it. No others.

Human 'gender' is a recent invention by John Money. From this invention came 'gender reassignment' (as if your birth 'gender' was something 'assigned' to you by an unnamed, ignorant bureaucrat), a correction that an all-wise doctor can now 'reassign', by using hormones and surgery.

It's completely bogus. It's the invention and work of charlatans.

Back in your fact-free zone, I see.

None of that is actually true.

Being trans is not 'bogus', and nor is it the work of 'charlatans' or 'The Left'.

And 'gender reassignment' has been around for a lot longer than John Money (yes, I
researched it - he popularised the word 'gender', not the actual concept itself). Before
surgery was available, trans people used prosthetic breasts and penises - and many
still do. Trans women, for example, often use the very same prosthetic breasts that
women who have undergone mastectomies use, and many sex-toy stores sell fake
penises.

Surgery is NOT mandatory in order to be trans, nor should it be.

As you'd know if you put ANY effort at all into researching the subject, instead of simply
repeating debunked and discredited claims interspersed with outright bigotry.

You ARE going to die on this hill, one way or the other, because FTLW and I are basing
our posts on facts and experience rather than on bigotry and wilful lack of knowledge.

It's up to you whether it will be quick and clean, or drawn-out and gory. Sadly, you seem
to wish it to be the latter.

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Re: Matt Walsh date with a Feminist
Reply #76 - Jun 15^th, 2022 at 3:10pm

Then why try to push the agenda on everyone that it is 'normal' when it clearly isn't? It's like trying to plane against the grain in wood.
It's as bad as that Gay referendum that the Media promoted "If you don't vote 'Yes' - then you are a homo-phobic redneck!"
That's a nasty accusation to make of Australian people for fear of not getting your own 'Gay' way.
Like I said. I threw my Ref-letter in the mail, straight into the bin. Two wrongs don't make a right.

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Re: Matt Walsh date with a Feminist
Reply #77 - Jun 15^th, 2022 at 3:13pm

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jun 15^th, 2022 at 11:04am:

No Puberty Blockers until eighteen!!

Thereby rendering them useless for purpose.

You really didn't think that through, did you?

I also have to wonder at the fact that in every post you repeatedly refer to trans people as
'trannies' - despite knowing perfectly well that both transgender people AND cross-dressers
consider it an obsolete, derogatory and offensive term.

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Re: Matt Walsh date with a Feminist
Reply #78 - Jun 15^th, 2022 at 3:16pm

Jasin wrote on Jun 15^th, 2022 at 3:10pm:

Then why try to push the agenda on everyone that it is 'normal' when it clearly isn't?

It's like trying to plane against the grain in wood.
It's as bad as that Gay referendum that the Media promoted "If you don't vote 'Yes' - then you are a homo-phobic redneck!"
That's a nasty accusation to make of Australian people for fear of not getting your own 'Gay' way.
Like I said. I threw my Ref-letter in the mail, straight into the bin. Two wrongs don't make a right.

But it IS 'normal'.

Trans people have been around for as long as people have.

And they're not 'pushing an agenda' - they're pushing for an end to the
uneducated bigotry and ignorance displayed by the likes of you.

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Re: Matt Walsh date with a Feminist
Reply #79 - Jun 15^th, 2022 at 3:19pm

Kat wrote on Jun 15^th, 2022 at 3:03pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 15^th, 2022 at 9:24am:

Gender is a grammatical term. Feminine, masculine, neuter - he she it. No others.

Human 'gender' is a recent invention by John Money. From this invention came 'gender reassignment' (as if your birth 'gender' was something 'assigned' to you by an unnamed, ignorant bureaucrat), a correction that an all-wise doctor can now 'reassign', by using hormones and surgery.

It's completely bogus. It's the invention and work of charlatans.

Back in your fact-free zone, I see.

None of that is actually true.

Being trans is not 'bogus', and nor is it the work of 'charlatans' or 'The Left'.

And 'gender reassignment' has been around for a lot longer than John Money (yes, I
researched it - he popularised the word 'gender', not the actual concept itself). Before
surgery was available, trans people used prosthetic breasts and penises - and many
still do. Trans women, for example, often use the very same prosthetic breasts that
women who have undergone mastectomies use, and many sex-toy stores sell fake
penises.

Surgery is NOT mandatory in order to be trans, nor should it be.

As you'd know if you put ANY effort at all into researching the subject, instead of simply
repeating debunked and discredited claims interspersed with outright bigotry.

You ARE going to die on this hill, one way or the other, because FTLW and I are basing
our posts on facts and experience rather than on bigotry and wilful lack of knowledge.

It's up to you whether it will be quick and clean, or drawn-out and gory. Sadly, you seem
to wish it to be the latter.

There is no "hill" here, kat.

You cannot thought-control and make people believe nonsense, no matter how often you call them bigots.

Just because a bloke thinks he's a woman - Napoleon, handsome, Korean, persecuted, God's instrument on Earth or whatever - does not make him so. And just because he thinks of himself in a particular way is no obligation on anyone else to agree with his own estimation of himself.

Calling people bigots is a very weak position, it is shorthand for "I can't think of anything which upsets me so I'll call you a bigot by way of the best defence is attack".
Same with all the other tired slogans that are routinely substituted for reasoning: racist, fascist, right wing and the rest of it.

Blokes are blokes, not women, and women are not blokes but women. One can be indulgent but that doesnt change the obvious.
As the tale illustrates, you cannot convince everyone that a naked Emperor is sumptuously clothed. Not even by calling g them bigots.

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Re: Matt Walsh date with a Feminist
Reply #80 - Jun 15^th, 2022 at 3:21pm

Frank wrote on Jun 15^th, 2022 at 3:19pm:

There is no "hill" here, kat.

You cannot thought-control and make people believe nonsense, no matter how often you call them bigots.

Just because a bloke thinks he's a woman - Napoleon, handsome, Korean, persecuted, God's instrument on Earth or whatever - does not make him so. And just because he thinks of himself in a particular way is no obligation on anyone else to agree with his own estimation of himself.

Calling people bigots is a very weak position, it is shorthand for "I can't think of anything which upsets me so I'll call you a bigot by way of the best defence is attack".
Same with all the other tired slogans that are routinely substituted for reasoning: racist, fascist, right wing and the rest of it.

Blokes are blokes, not women, and women are not blokes but women. One can be indulgent but that doesnt change the obvious.
As the tale illustrates, you cannot convince everyone that a naked Emperor is sumptuously clothed. Not even by calling g them bigots.

Trans people think that you're wrong. Scientists and medical experts think that you're wrong. You're scared to discuss if you are wrong. So, let's face it. You're wrong.

Ultimately the issue is this - you don't have any trans friends. Why are you insisting on the right to go out of your way to upset strangers by misgendering them? That's not a rational, or calm position. It's blind hate.

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Re: Matt Walsh date with a Feminist
Reply #81 - Jun 15^th, 2022 at 3:22pm

Kat wrote on Jun 15^th, 2022 at 3:16pm:

Jasin wrote on Jun 15^th, 2022 at 3:10pm:

Then why try to push the agenda on everyone that it is 'normal' when it clearly isn't?

It's like trying to plane against the grain in wood.
It's as bad as that Gay referendum that the Media promoted "If you don't vote 'Yes' - then you are a homo-phobic redneck!"
That's a nasty accusation to make of Australian people for fear of not getting your own 'Gay' way.
Like I said. I threw my Ref-letter in the mail, straight into the bin. Two wrongs don't make a right.

But it IS 'normal'.

Trans people have been around for as long as people have.

And they're not 'pushing an agenda' - they're pushing for an end to the
uneducated bigotry and ignorance displayed by the likes of you.

Just because something has occurred for a long time doesn't make it normal. People have been born with severe handicaps - it doesn't make it normal.

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Re: Matt Walsh date with a Feminist
Reply #82 - Jun 15^th, 2022 at 3:24pm

Frank wrote on Jun 15^th, 2022 at 3:22pm:

Kat wrote on Jun 15^th, 2022 at 3:16pm:

Jasin wrote on Jun 15^th, 2022 at 3:10pm:

Then why try to push the agenda on everyone that it is 'normal' when it clearly isn't?

It's like trying to plane against the grain in wood.
It's as bad as that Gay referendum that the Media promoted "If you don't vote 'Yes' - then you are a homo-phobic redneck!"
That's a nasty accusation to make of Australian people for fear of not getting your own 'Gay' way.
Like I said. I threw my Ref-letter in the mail, straight into the bin. Two wrongs don't make a right.

But it IS 'normal'.

Trans people have been around for as long as people have.

And they're not 'pushing an agenda' - they're pushing for an end to the
uneducated bigotry and ignorance displayed by the likes of you.

Just because something has occurred for a long time doesn't make it normal. People have been born with severe handicaps - it doesn't make it normal.

Being trans is normal, it's not a handicap. But yes, the fact people have been born trans and born handicapped all along proves that both are normal variations in the human experience. Duh

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Re: Matt Walsh date with a Feminist
Reply #83 - Jun 15^th, 2022 at 3:30pm

Frank wrote on Jun 15^th, 2022 at 3:19pm:

Kat wrote on Jun 15^th, 2022 at 3:03pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 15^th, 2022 at 9:24am:

Gender is a grammatical term. Feminine, masculine, neuter - he she it. No others.

Human 'gender' is a recent invention by John Money. From this invention came 'gender reassignment' (as if your birth 'gender' was something 'assigned' to you by an unnamed, ignorant bureaucrat), a correction that an all-wise doctor can now 'reassign', by using hormones and surgery.

It's completely bogus. It's the invention and work of charlatans.

Back in your fact-free zone, I see.

None of that is actually true.

Being trans is not 'bogus', and nor is it the work of 'charlatans' or 'The Left'.

And 'gender reassignment' has been around for a lot longer than John Money (yes, I
researched it - he popularised the word 'gender', not the actual concept itself). Before
surgery was available, trans people used prosthetic breasts and penises - and many
still do. Trans women, for example, often use the very same prosthetic breasts that
women who have undergone mastectomies use, and many sex-toy stores sell fake
penises.

Surgery is NOT mandatory in order to be trans, nor should it be.

As you'd know if you put ANY effort at all into researching the subject, instead of simply
repeating debunked and discredited claims interspersed with outright bigotry.

You ARE going to die on this hill, one way or the other, because FTLW and I are basing
our posts on facts and experience rather than on bigotry and wilful lack of knowledge.

It's up to you whether it will be quick and clean, or drawn-out and gory. Sadly, you seem
to wish it to be the latter.

There is no "hill" here, kat.

You cannot thought-control and make people believe nonsense, no matter how often you call them bigots.

Just because a bloke thinks he's a woman - Napoleon, handsome, Korean, persecuted, God's instrument on Earth or whatever - does not make him so. And just because he thinks of himself in a particular way is no obligation on anyone else to agree with his own estimation of himself.

Calling people bigots is a very weak position, it is shorthand for "I can't think of anything which upsets me so I'll call you a bigot by way of the best defence is attack".
Same with all the other tired slogans that are routinely substituted for reasoning: racist, fascist, right wing and the rest of it.

Blokes are blokes, not women, and women are not blokes but women. One can be indulgent but that doesnt change the obvious.
As the tale illustrates, you cannot convince everyone that a naked Emperor is sumptuously clothed. Not even by calling g them bigots.

Look - you, Frankly, have no idea what you're wittering about.

The very tone of your comments, and that you constantly try (and fail) to refute the
facts that I and others have posted is a good indication that bigotry is in play. As is
trying to align trans people with 'the Left', and making silly references to 'thought
control' as if it's some kind of conspiracy.

There's a hill, all right - and you're floundering.

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Re: Matt Walsh date with a Feminist
Reply #84 - Jun 15^th, 2022 at 3:41pm

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 15^th, 2022 at 3:24pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 15^th, 2022 at 3:22pm:

Kat wrote on Jun 15^th, 2022 at 3:16pm:

Jasin wrote on Jun 15^th, 2022 at 3:10pm:

Then why try to push the agenda on everyone that it is 'normal' when it clearly isn't?

It's like trying to plane against the grain in wood.
It's as bad as that Gay referendum that the Media promoted "If you don't vote 'Yes' - then you are a homo-phobic redneck!"
That's a nasty accusation to make of Australian people for fear of not getting your own 'Gay' way.
Like I said. I threw my Ref-letter in the mail, straight into the bin. Two wrongs don't make a right.

But it IS 'normal'.

Trans people have been around for as long as people have.

And they're not 'pushing an agenda' - they're pushing for an end to the
uneducated bigotry and ignorance displayed by the likes of you.

Just because something has occurred for a long time doesn't make it normal. People have been born with severe handicaps - it doesn't make it normal.

Being trans is normal, it's not a handicap. But yes, the fact people have been born trans and born handicapped all along proves that both are normal variations in the human experience. Duh

Know what cracks me up?

This lot probably interact with trans people quite regularly, if not on a daily basis, and they are
none the wiser. Which is strange, considering they reckon trans people are 'obviously trans' and
that 'they can tell' if someone is or is not.

I wonder what criteria they use in these judgements?

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Re: Matt Walsh date with a Feminist
Reply #85 - Jun 15^th, 2022 at 3:45pm

Kat wrote on Jun 15^th, 2022 at 3:41pm:

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 15^th, 2022 at 3:24pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 15^th, 2022 at 3:22pm:

Kat wrote on Jun 15^th, 2022 at 3:16pm:

Jasin wrote on Jun 15^th, 2022 at 3:10pm:

Then why try to push the agenda on everyone that it is 'normal' when it clearly isn't?

It's like trying to plane against the grain in wood.
It's as bad as that Gay referendum that the Media promoted "If you don't vote 'Yes' - then you are a homo-phobic redneck!"
That's a nasty accusation to make of Australian people for fear of not getting your own 'Gay' way.
Like I said. I threw my Ref-letter in the mail, straight into the bin. Two wrongs don't make a right.

But it IS 'normal'.

Trans people have been around for as long as people have.

And they're not 'pushing an agenda' - they're pushing for an end to the
uneducated bigotry and ignorance displayed by the likes of you.

Just because something has occurred for a long time doesn't make it normal. People have been born with severe handicaps - it doesn't make it normal.

Being trans is normal, it's not a handicap. But yes, the fact people have been born trans and born handicapped all along proves that both are normal variations in the human experience. Duh

Know what cracks me up?

This lot probably interact with trans people quite regularly, if not on a daily basis, and they are
none the wiser. Which is strange, considering they reckon trans people are 'obviously trans' and
that 'they can tell' if someone is or is not.

I wonder what criteria they use in these judgements?

Er... face recognition. Tsk, tsk Roll Eyes

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Re: Matt Walsh date with a Feminist
Reply #86 - Jun 15^th, 2022 at 4:53pm

Kat wrote on Jun 15^th, 2022 at 3:16pm:

Jasin wrote on Jun 15^th, 2022 at 3:10pm:

Then why try to push the agenda on everyone that it is 'normal' when it clearly isn't?

It's like trying to plane against the grain in wood.
It's as bad as that Gay referendum that the Media promoted "If you don't vote 'Yes' - then you are a homo-phobic redneck!"
That's a nasty accusation to make of Australian people for fear of not getting your own 'Gay' way.
Like I said. I threw my Ref-letter in the mail, straight into the bin. Two wrongs don't make a right.

But it IS 'normal'.

Trans people have been around for as long as people have.

And they're not 'pushing an agenda' - they're pushing for an end to the
uneducated bigotry and ignorance displayed by the likes of you.

Maybe they deserve to be disliked, just like Nazi's are.
Maybe they are 'wrong', but just can't accept the fact that they are making a mistake.
Maybe they deserve the same bigotry that smokers, alcoholics and drug addicts get.
Maybe they deserve the same dislike corrupt cops get?
Maybe they just need to accept the fact that they've gone the 'wrong' way.

Two women (lesbians) void the natural procreative ability by their same-sex relationship - but then use 'medical' intervention to justify having kids. Just doesn't make sense on the motive of same-sex in the first place and using Medicine as a cop-out. Wanna have a kid? Then go out and find the opposite sex. Contradictive, hypocritical and denial.

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Re: Matt Walsh date with a Feminist
Reply #87 - Jun 15^th, 2022 at 5:01pm

Trans are so few and far between it is highly unlikely anyone will come across one in real life - over a lifetime. I've come across 1.5 - one was just a gay guy doing it for the 'look at me' .... utter bullshit - but he had a job counseling poofs at a nice return, thank you... the other was clearly a nut case.... some say due to the drugs - to which the instant retort is - why then give them the drugs? Same as that Enmore Axe Tranny saying it was the drogs that drove hir to it.... then recanting on being a tranny while in prison...

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