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Reply #45 - Jun 15^th, 2022 at 9:48am

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 15^th, 2022 at 9:40am:

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jun 15^th, 2022 at 9:28am:

You can cut that one out right now. Whatever you think of Frank, he did not at any time mention 'cock' or anything else.... so that's the last time, OK? Keep your puerile personal affronts out of discussion between adults.

If they don't really want to change their sex, they are not really trans. Simple. It's just a head issue that needs help, like an anorexic girl thinking she's obese.

The reason you are crying is the genitals of strangers. You are crying about cock. You hate gays and not lesbians. You hate trans women and not trans men. You're upset if people with a penis don't live up to your vision of manhood.

You can't 'help' trans people. You can't change that they are trans. There is no way to do this.

Not one word of sense or reason there. Nobody is here crying but you... and YOU are the only one who ever mentions cock. Nobody hates gays or lesbians - we live and let live. Clearly it is the few with a penis and head problems who are upset, otherwise this would not even be under discussion. Trans people can be helped - firstly with proper counselling and focusing on what they ARE first and foremost - they can change their idea of being 'trans' - there is every way to do this instead of going the costly and socially destructive route of accommodating to every fantasy in anyone's head.

They are free to make their own decision once they have attained the age or beginning of reason.

Look at the violence you brought to the table from day one of your appearance - and you haven't stopped yet.

Now use civil terms in discussion, stick to facts and stop trying to offload your problems on others who simply want to discuss this and offer different approaches.

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Re: Matt Walsh date with a Feminist
Reply #46 - Jun 15^th, 2022 at 9:48am

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 15^th, 2022 at 9:27am:

Frank wrote on Jun 15^th, 2022 at 9:24am:

Gender is a grammatical term. Feminine, masculine, neuter - he she it. No others.

Human 'gender' is a recent invention by John Money. From this invention came 'gender reassignment' (as if your birth 'gender' was something 'assigned' to you by an unnamed, ignorant bureaucrat), a correction that an all-wise doctor can now 'reassign', by using hormones and surgery.

It's completely bogus. It's the invention and work of charlatans.

Are you saying DNA didn't exist until we discovered it? I reiterate that most trans folks don't have surgery. They are not as obsessed with cock as you are.

DNA is discovered. Deoxyribonucleic acid is an actual substance.
Human gender is invented. It's was invented in 1955 by a Kiwi, John Money, borrowing a grammatical CONCEPT (note: not an actual substance or thing) and applying it to human CONCEPTS.

Human gender is not a THING, it is an interpretation. Hormone therapy, gender reassignment medical interventions, however, are actual material THINGS and procedures that materially alter healthy bodies.

For an intact bloke to insist that he is a real woman is clearly a matter of gross misinterpretation of the world. To remove a young woman's breasts because she thinks she is a bloke is monstrous. Healthy bodies subjugated to unhealthy minds. For doctors to along with it is dreadful and against every aspect of the first principle of the Hyppocratic Oath: do no harm.

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Re: Matt Walsh date with a Feminist
Reply #47 - Jun 15^th, 2022 at 9:51am

Frank wrote on Jun 15^th, 2022 at 9:48am:

DNA is discovered. Deoxyribonucleic acid is an actual substance.
Human gender is invented. It's was invented in 1955 by a Kiwi, John Money, borrowing a grammatical CONCEPT (note: not an actual substance or thing) and applying it to human CONCEPTS.

Human gender is not a THING, it is an interpretation. Hormone therapy, gender reassignment medical interventions, however, are actual material THINGS and procedures that materially alter healthy bodies.

For an intact bloke to insist that he is a real woman is clearly a matter of gross misinterpretation of the world. To remove a young woman's breasts because she thinks she is a bloke is monstrous. Healthy bodies subjugated to unhealthy minds. For doctors to along with it is dreadful and against every aspect of the first principle of the Hyppocratic Oath: do no harm.

Most societies have a concept for trans people and know they exist. that someone invented the terminology doesn't mean he invented people feeling this way. In 1955? Germans were investigating ways to help trans kids before Hitler burned it all down, more than 20 years before that.

There are still no medical interventions in children. You are still a liar.

All of this boils down to your deep insecurity and fears.

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Grappler Racist Filth Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 90466 Proud Old White Australian Man Gender:	Re: Matt Walsh date with a Feminist Reply #48 - Jun 15^th, 2022 at 10:05am They've been recognised as trans men or trans women - not as full members of each - same as gays were recognised as gays and handled as a separate group. Look at the successful gays and lesbians over the centuries.... who exactly was holding them back? The fact that they've existed proves nothing for your case.
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Re: Matt Walsh date with a Feminist
Reply #49 - Jun 15^th, 2022 at 10:06am

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jun 15^th, 2022 at 10:05am:

They've been recognised as trans men or trans women - not as full members of each - same as gays were recognised as gays and handled as a separate group.

Look at the successful gays and lesbians over the centuries.... who exactly was holding them back?

The fact that they've existed proves nothing for your case.

It proves you lied, it wasn't just invented. Trans and gay were always with us. The successful gays had to hide it. Oscar Wilde went to jail for it. Trans men are men. Gays are humans. They are equal, they don't need special categories

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Re: Matt Walsh date with a Feminist
Reply #50 - Jun 15^th, 2022 at 10:08am

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 15^th, 2022 at 9:51am:

Frank wrote on Jun 15^th, 2022 at 9:48am:

DNA is discovered. Deoxyribonucleic acid is an actual substance.
Human gender is invented. It's was invented in 1955 by a Kiwi, John Money, borrowing a grammatical CONCEPT (note: not an actual substance or thing) and applying it to human CONCEPTS.

Human gender is not a THING, it is an interpretation. Hormone therapy, gender reassignment medical interventions, however, are actual material THINGS and procedures that materially alter healthy bodies.

For an intact bloke to insist that he is a real woman is clearly a matter of gross misinterpretation of the world. To remove a young woman's breasts because she thinks she is a bloke is monstrous. Healthy bodies subjugated to unhealthy minds. For doctors to along with it is dreadful and against every aspect of the first principle of the Hyppocratic Oath: do no harm.

Most societies have a concept for trans people and know they exist. that someone invented the terminology doesn't mean he invented people feeling this way. In 1955? Germans were investigating ways to help trans kids before Hitler burned it all down, more than 20 years before that.

There are still no medical interventions in children. You are still a liar.

All of this boils down to your deep insecurity and fears.

What the Germans did has nothing to do with us.

You are now stating that prescribing gender blockers is not 'medical intervention'?

Stop trying so hard - you're going backwards. I'm not 'insecure' about it - I know exactly what reality is, and I certainly have no 'fears' any more than I 'fear' poofs, or Cheers or Mussos. Your desperate tactics are not working.

You'll have to find new ways to approach these things rather than trying to belittle any who disagree... and that applies across the board to all you Wokeists....

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Re: Matt Walsh date with a Feminist
Reply #51 - Jun 15^th, 2022 at 10:10am

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jun 15^th, 2022 at 10:08am:

What the Germans did has nothing to do with us.

You are now stating that prescribing gender blockers is not 'medical intervention'?

Stop trying so hard - you're going backwards. I'm not 'insecure' about it - I know exactly what reality is, and I certainly have no 'fears' any more than I 'fear' poofs, or Cheers or Mussos. Your desperate tactics are not working.

You'll have to find new ways to approach these things rather than trying to belittle any who disagree... and that applies across the board to all you Wokeists....

Hormone blockers are not permanent. As we've covered.

You are clearly insecure, you cry constantly.

Honestly, I tried to debate and you ran crying. Now I am merely reminding you that you are scum. If you ever grow a pair, we can discuss it. But I've tried

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Re: Matt Walsh date with a Feminist
Reply #52 - Jun 15^th, 2022 at 10:11am

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 15^th, 2022 at 10:06am:

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jun 15^th, 2022 at 10:05am:

They've been recognised as trans men or trans women - not as full members of each - same as gays were recognised as gays and handled as a separate group.

Look at the successful gays and lesbians over the centuries.... who exactly was holding them back?

The fact that they've existed proves nothing for your case.

It proves you lied, it wasn't just invented. Trans and gay were always with us. The successful gays had to hide it. Oscar Wilde went to jail for it. Trans men are men. Gays are humans. They are equal, they don't need special categories

Idiot - I never said they never existed. Somerset Maugham.... Elton John .... Liberace ....

https://www.ranker.com/list/famous-gay-lesbian-and-bisexual-people-born-in-the-1...

Stop grasping at ancient history like some feminist ...... your desperation is showing.

History and the world have left you behind - don't be too upset about that... you can catch up.

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 56931 Gender:	Re: Matt Walsh date with a Feminist Reply #53 - Jun 15^th, 2022 at 10:14am People who are ANTI anything are chasing a weakness. It's the People who are 'Pro' that are following a strength.
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Grappler Racist Filth Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 90466 Proud Old White Australian Man Gender:	Re: Matt Walsh date with a Feminist Reply #54 - Jun 15^th, 2022 at 10:14am As for trannies - they are neither Arthur nor Martha - and must needs have separate categories in which to compete, because to do otherwise is totally an abuse of other contestants. How many trans-men play in men's football?
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Re: Matt Walsh date with a Feminist
Reply #55 - Jun 15^th, 2022 at 10:15am

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jun 15^th, 2022 at 10:14am:

As for trannies - they are neither Arthur nor Martha - and must needs have separate categories in which to compete, because to do otherwise is totally an abuse of other contestants.

How many trans-men play in men's football?

This is bullshit. Trans women are playing sport today and they are not winning all the time. They have no advantage. Women's groups are used to being excluded from sport so they have a personal reason to reject your hate. Women only sports groups are not concerned about trans men playing women's sport. Male bigots are.

Only people over 80 say 'neither Arthur nor Martha'. Yet, you've ranted to me about them all morning

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 56931 Gender:	Re: Matt Walsh date with a Feminist Reply #56 - Jun 15^th, 2022 at 10:16am People who are ANTI anything are chasing a weakness. It's the People who are 'Pro' that are following a strength. Trans people are 'Anti' their own sex, rather than Pro.
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Re: Matt Walsh date with a Feminist
Reply #57 - Jun 15^th, 2022 at 10:17am

Jasin wrote on Jun 15^th, 2022 at 10:16am:

People who are ANTI anything are chasing a weakness.

It's the People who are 'Pro' that are following a strength.

Trans people are 'Anti' their own sex, rather than Pro.

You are an ignorant old maggot. Trans people are not anti their own sex. bugger me, what a buffoon

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 56931 Gender:	Re: Matt Walsh date with a Feminist Reply #58 - Jun 15^th, 2022 at 10:18am People who are ANTI anything are chasing a weakness. It's the People who are 'Pro' that are following a strength. Trans people are 'Anti' their own sex, rather than Pro.
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FutureTheLeftWant Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6625 Gender:	Re: Matt Walsh date with a Feminist Reply #59 - Jun 15^th, 2022 at 10:19am Jasin wrote on Jun 15^th, 2022 at 10:18am: People who are ANTI anything are chasing a weakness. It's the People who are 'Pro' that are following a strength. Trans people are 'Anti' their own sex, rather than Pro. Keep telling the same lies, old man. It will make you feel better. RUN FROM DEBATE!!!
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