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UnSubRocky Gold Member Offline Crocodile Hunter: Origins Posts: 25212 Rockhampton Gender:	Re: Reclaim Australia Reply #15 - May 21^st, 2022 at 1:22pm Oh, yeah. Maybe you can now list the ways that Reclaim Australia telling Muslims to integrate and be law-abiding citizens is a threat to Islam. Or, you know, phock off and expire.
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Reply #16 - May 21^st, 2022 at 3:25pm

UnSubRocky wrote on May 21^st, 2022 at 1:02pm:

Looks like I am interacting with a bot. But, I will respond, just in case it is not one.

Having read up about the Nazis, at least quite a while ago, I cannot say that what I am talking about in response to you is in any way endorsing the Nazis. The whole issue with the Nazis blaming the Jews and then committed an ethnic cleansing of Germany of Jews was in response to the loss of WW1. Many Germans thought that they would not have lost the war had it not been for the business people of Germany wanting to get back to productivity. Many business people had a Jewish background. Jewish people had not been a well-liked community in Europe for centuries.

In contrast to Australia where we have a Muslim population in Australia. The number of Muslims in Australia is about 600,000+ (according to the 2016 census). Whilst I am happy to say that the vast majority of Muslims are decent people. There is a general feeling that areas concentrated with large populations of Muslim people have been nothing but a pain the arse for the rest of the residents in the region. The number of times I hear of people with a Middle Eastern appearance appear on television in relation to a rape or shop robbery charge, at the least, is quite astounding. And if an ethnic group is influential enough with higher degrees of crime rates and antisocial behaviour to prompt a rally by Australians telling Muslims to shape up, then there must be a problem with Muslims in Australia.

I live in Rockhampton and we have a decent sized Bangladeshi community. Nearly all of them Muslim. Not one of them has EVER been a problem. We have had minor problems with other minority groups. But never with the Bangladeshi community. Is it because they have a culture of being law-abiding citizens? Maybe there is something among the Lebanese community that has their culture push a boisterous demeanour in Sydney? It is not Islam that is the problem, but where they hail from.

I happen to be non-religious and, in some ways, anti-religion. I am required by law to allow other people to practice their faith in whatever is deemed law-abiding. I will not tolerate statements that "it is not against the law for a Muslim to rape a non-Muslim" as I had read quoted in the newspaper regarding the Sydney gang rapes. Surely, that is one example of a Muslim trying to assert their dominance over non-Muslims.

Hitler would have been a good president had he not gone and provoked the Second World War. He managed to undo the impoverished nature of the country. He got the people back into jobs. He was riding the investment that the USA had provided to get the industries going. He could probably have renegotiated some favourable deals in paying back war reparations that Germany owed from WW1. But, remilitarising the Rhineland and then invading Poland was enough to get the European nations back on a war footing. I could respect a guy for leading a country to prosperity and being a non-drinker and non-smoker and maintaining strong discipline. But I cannot respect the guy if he pushes towards his revenge goals that prompt another world war.

Btw, 84 posts inside 24 hours might come close to some kind of record here at OzPol. I am quite happy working my "couple of dollars an hour above minimum wage" job. But, even someone that sits hours on end at the computer would surely not be doing much for a job if they have time to type up 84 posts inside a day.

I love the bullshit about bots LOL!!

Yeah, I assume a failed life is why you lie about Islam. You're the same as Nazis.

Yes, if Hitler had only killed Jews and gays he would have been fine with you, right?

Muslims are not over represented in crime stats. That's bullshit. I don't recall seeing the news stories you obviously see reading the Daily Stormer.

I am good at my job *shrug*. I also type faster than most people.

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Reply #17 - May 21^st, 2022 at 3:30pm

UnSubRocky wrote on May 21^st, 2022 at 1:20pm:

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 21^st, 2022 at 11:08am:

List the real ways that Islam is a threat or changing life in Australia by force. Or, you know, bugger off and die

The good way listed is that some of the adherents helped map out the interior of Australia in the late 19th and early 20th century.

Bad ways include:
*Terrorism and militant activity
*ISIL has recruited Australian Muslims to fight for them overseas.
*The encouragement that Muslim Australians are Muslims first and Australians second.
*A Lakemba bookstore selling anti-Semetic literature and children's books depicting Jews as conceited and wanting world domination.
*Lebanese youths and young adults would go about bullying people at Cronulla beach. Some Lebanese had been reported to having called a child a slut because she was wearing a bathing suit. Not a very Christian thing of them to say. And then there is the irritations that the Lebanese caused over time that end up sparking a backlash with violence during the Cronulla riots of 2005.
*The promotion of gender discrimination by Islamic leaders. Goodness knows how they react to the Sydney Gay and Lesbian parades each year.
*Female genital mutilation being performed by Islamic parents on their children. The practice has been outlawed since 1990. And no accredited doctor would practice such barbarity. I wonder what religion the doctor is that would be willing to perform the surgery?
*Muslim Australians also have a higher unemployment and welfare dependency rate than non-Muslim Australians. Perhaps you have heard about the Muslim man who has a number of wives and many children that are all welfare dependent? It is that sort of drain on society that hurts Australia both financially and socially.

There is basically no islamic terrorism in Australia

Irish Aussies went 'home' to fight in the irish civil wars. However I feel about that, it's not an issue to me here

Every Christian I know is Christian first and Aussie second. Who gives a bugger if it's just something they say, and they never break the law (as their faith requires)?

I bought the Protocols of Zion in a Christian church in the 80s. some Muslims are poo, just like you are poo but that doesn't mean all Aussies are

The Cronulla stuff was all bullshit. Everyone knows that

They don't bomb Mardi Gras. My dad who is a Christian would love to kill all gays, he says it often. Attacking Muslims over womens rights and not Christians is a pathetic smoke screen

FGM is not an Islamic practice. It's practiced as widely by Christians. Most Christians and most Muslims reject it

You understand that if that man wanted to cheat centrelink, he'd get his wives to claim higher benefits as single mothers? Those women would be alive and probably on welfare either war?

I don't give a poo if people are on welfare. That's how society works. Muslims are unemployed more often not because they don't want to work, but because of racism

I don't want Muslims to 'integrate', that's bullshit. Reclaim Australia lied about Islam being some sort of problem and demanded Muslims abandon their faith or leave. Same as the Nazis, LOL. There is no problem with Muslims in Australia, you just found a politically correct way (in your mind) to be racist and hate brown people.

And you lost. I helped bury your bullshit.

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Reply #18 - May 21^st, 2022 at 4:22pm

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 21^st, 2022 at 3:25pm:

I love the bullshit about bots LOL!!

Yeah, I assume a failed life is why you lie about Islam. You're the same as Nazis.

Yes, if Hitler had only killed Jews and gays he would have been fine with you, right?

Muslims are not over represented in crime stats. That's bullshit. I don't recall seeing the news stories you obviously see reading the Daily Stormer.

I am good at my job *shrug*. I also type faster than most people.

You will find that bots are quite the thing on forums these days. I discovered one was auto-responding to people on another defunct forum some years ago. 'He' got deleted by the admin.

Your response sounds like you are just auto-responding with crap you have probably posted on another forum. "All minds think alike" maybe your philosophy of your opponents. None of my relatives are Nazis. None of my relatives think like Nazis. I am not a Nazi. I do not think like a Nazi. I can respect someone like Adolf Hitler. But, that does not mean that I like the man. He did enough narcissistic and then terrible things not to like him. As a leader, Adolf got his country up and running. And then he undid the good work with his war-mongering.

My interaction with Muslims is limited to the ones around town here. So, lucky me gets to interact with the good Muslims. However, I have met the really bad ones that take antisocial behaviour to a new level. I have also been to Sydney and seen how they act down there. A real pity that the bad ones give the good Muslims a bad name.

Seeing that you are hung up on associating me with Hitler, how about I associate you with Mugabe, Erdogan, or Malcolm X? If they only killed white, heterosexual, secular people, they would be alright with you?

Muslims make up 10% (or more) of prison populations in various areas. That, despite being only 2% of the country's population. And you do not hear about Muslim crimes, because the news media has to be as politically correct as possible these days.

I do not care if you type 120wpm. 84 posts in a 24 hour period means that you have a lot of free time on your hands. Yesterday must have been your day off.

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Reply #19 - May 21^st, 2022 at 5:02pm

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 21^st, 2022 at 3:30pm:

There is basically no islamic terrorism in Australia

What the phock are you smoking? Man Haron Monis is a prime example of a terrorist. He took a Lindt chocolate cafe as a staging area to make his demands and state that "this is an attack on Australia by Islamic State". As for other terrorism activity, the police have the activity well monitored. Some planned attacks in Australia have been foiled.

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Irish Aussies went 'home' to fight in the irish civil wars. However I feel about that, it's not an issue to me here

I was too young to remember the Irish civil wars reported in the Australian media. But, I would be more supportive of people fighting for their right to independence than I would with an ultraconservative religion trying to impose their way of life on an increasingly secular world (no matter where they come from).

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Every Christian I know is Christian first and Aussie second. Who gives a bugger if it's just something they say, and they never break the law (as their faith requires)?

You have almost got it. I copped abuse from people who claimed to be Christians. But, really, they were just ultraconservative Christians desperate to retain the church as an influential part of Australian life. They acted ironically.

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I bought the Protocols of Zion in a Christian church in the 80s. some Muslims are poo, just like you are poo but that doesn't mean all Aussies are

I think you better rack off to another country, if you think that I am not worthy. I am more influential on the safety and security of Australia than you have ever been. In fact, your Brianesque disposition of sucking upr to minorities could end up doing a lot more harm than whatever good you intend.

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The Cronulla stuff was all bullshit. Everyone knows that

The Cronulla riots would not have happened if Middle Eastern people did not go about creating notable problems in the eastern suburbs of Sydney throughout the time period after their parents got off the planes back in the 1990s (and even 1980s). Once a group of ratbags take on a defenceless lifesaver, it becomes a major problem for the residents.

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They don't bomb Mardi Gras. My dad who is a Christian would love to kill all gays, he says it often. Attacking Muslims over womens rights and not Christians is a pathetic smoke screen

I am not suggesting that Muslims have attacked the Mardi Gras. I am suggesting that Muslims are considerably more anti-gay than most other groups. And here you are defending them.

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FGM is not an Islamic practice. It's practiced as widely by Christians. Most Christians and most Muslims reject it

I would suggest that you look up the history of FGM and where it is still practiced in today's world. Female genital mutilation is abhorred in Australian culture.

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You understand that if that man wanted to cheat centrelink, he'd get his wives to claim higher benefits as single mothers? Those women would be alive and probably on welfare either war?

You did not read between the lines in what I wrote. Just because I said that the man had a number of wives, it does not mean that he was legally married to them. He had at least 3 women that he had fathered children with. And he sponged off his wives for the child endowment they were getting.

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I don't give a poo if people are on welfare. That's how society works. Muslims are unemployed more often not because they don't want to work, but because of racism

Look everyone. The racism card is getting produced. Muslims are not unemployed because of other people's racism. Much of the time, it is because they are not qualified to work in even entry level positions. I must tell my Muslim co-workers about your position on racism against Muslims. They had told me that there are a bunch of Muslims that they have gotten away from in years past. It is more likely that Muslims fail to get employed because of their own racism.

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I don't want Muslims to 'integrate', that's bullshit. Reclaim Australia lied about Islam being some sort of problem and demanded Muslims abandon their faith or leave. Same as the Nazis, LOL. There is no problem with Muslims in Australia, you just found a politically correct way (in your mind) to be racist and hate brown people.

And you lost. I helped bury your bullshit.

Holy f'n sheeit, people. Looks like Future is not looking too bright. You do not want Muslims to integrate. That was part of the issue that prompted Reclaim Australia to issue a protest. Reclaim Australia would not even have existed if there was not an issue with Islamic fundamentalism trying to make their way into Australia. Australia is a secular society. We do not wish religious fundamentalism, whether they are Christian, Muslim, Hindu or whatever religious ultraconservative taking hold in Australia. Religion is obsolete in Australia for many for the last 50 years.

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Reply #20 - May 21^st, 2022 at 9:12pm

UnSubRocky wrote on May 21^st, 2022 at 5:02pm:

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There is basically no islamic terrorism in Australia

What the phock are you smoking? Man Haron Monis is a prime example of a terrorist. He took a Lindt chocolate cafe as a staging area to make his demands and state that "this is an attack on Australia by Islamic State". As for other terrorism activity, the police have the activity well monitored. Some planned attacks in Australia have been foiled.

Man Moris was not an Islamic terrorist, he was simply a nut. That whole situation was handled terribly, no one should have died. But one terrorist is not a wave of terrorism. As you said, 600k peaceful law abiding Muslims in Australia.

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Irish Aussies went 'home' to fight in the irish civil wars. However I feel about that, it's not an issue to me here

I was too young to remember the Irish civil wars reported in the Australian media. But, I would be more supportive of people fighting for their right to independence than I would with an ultraconservative religion trying to impose their way of life on an increasingly secular world (no matter where they come from).

In both cases, it's not happening in Australia, and not a threat to Australia. If anything, it gets the few Muslims radicalised by your ignorant bigotry out of the country

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Every Christian I know is Christian first and Aussie second. Who gives a bugger if it's just something they say, and they never break the law (as their faith requires)?

You have almost got it. I copped abuse from people who claimed to be Christians. But, really, they were just ultraconservative Christians desperate to retain the church as an influential part of Australian life. They acted ironically.

They mean it in precsely the same way Muslims mean it. As a mental trick that means nothing, as being Muslim and being Aussie never compete

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I bought the Protocols of Zion in a Christian church in the 80s. some Muslims are poo, just like you are poo but that doesn't mean all Aussies are

I think you better rack off to another country, if you think that I am not worthy. I am more influential on the safety and security of Australia than you have ever been. In fact, your Brianesque disposition of sucking upr to minorities could end up doing a lot more harm than whatever good you intend.

And you have simply tons of girlfriends, I know. bugger off and die, fascist.

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The Cronulla stuff was all bullshit. Everyone knows that

The Cronulla riots would not have happened if Middle Eastern people did not go about creating notable problems in the eastern suburbs of Sydney throughout the time period after their parents got off the planes back in the 1990s (and even 1980s). Once a group of ratbags take on a defenceless lifesaver, it becomes a major problem for the residents.

The Cronulla riots would not have happened if Alan Jones was not a racist front bottom

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They don't bomb Mardi Gras. My dad who is a Christian would love to kill all gays, he says it often. Attacking Muslims over womens rights and not Christians is a pathetic smoke screen

I am not suggesting that Muslims have attacked the Mardi Gras. I am suggesting that Muslims are considerably more anti-gay than most other groups. And here you are defending them.

They can't be MORE anti gay than Christians. They are about the same. And so long as they have ideas that reject gays and don't hurt them, they have that right

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FGM is not an Islamic practice. It's practiced as widely by Christians. Most Christians and most Muslims reject it

I would suggest that you look up the history of FGM and where it is still practiced in today's world. Female genital mutilation is abhorred in Australian culture.

When I was crushing Reclaim Australia like the bug it is, I read thick books on FGM to educate myself. I didn't just assume everything you filth said was not true. Muslims are at the fore front of fighting FGM, an African cultural practice prominent in all faiths in Africa and in their diaspora. I agree it is horrible. It's not Islamic. And let's face it, you couldn't find a clitoris either way

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You understand that if that man wanted to cheat centrelink, he'd get his wives to claim higher benefits as single mothers? Those women would be alive and probably on welfare either war?

You did not read between the lines in what I wrote. Just because I said that the man had a number of wives, it does not mean that he was legally married to them. He had at least 3 women that he had fathered children with. And he sponged off his wives for the child endowment they were getting.

You can't have three wives in Australia. Polygamous Muslims (a minority) and Christuans (they also exist) clearly don't marry more than one woman. You have ignored the point I made, because you are an ignoramus. The Muslim didn't increase the nunber of people on welfare and, yes, centrelink recognises polygamy for the purpose of lowing welfare payments.

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Reply #21 - May 21^st, 2022 at 9:13pm

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I don't give a poo if people are on welfare. That's how society works. Muslims are unemployed more often not because they don't want to work, but because of racism

Look everyone. The racism card is getting produced. Muslims are not unemployed because of other people's racism. Much of the time, it is because they are not qualified to work in even entry level positions. I must tell my Muslim co-workers about your position on racism against Muslims. They had told me that there are a bunch of Muslims that they have gotten away from in years past. It is more likely that Muslims fail to get employed because of their own racism.

This is ignorant bullshit and you are a moron LOL!!

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I don't want Muslims to 'integrate', that's bullshit. Reclaim Australia lied about Islam being some sort of problem and demanded Muslims abandon their faith or leave. Same as the Nazis, LOL. There is no problem with Muslims in Australia, you just found a politically correct way (in your mind) to be racist and hate brown people.

And you lost. I helped bury your bullshit.

Holy f'n sheeit, people. Looks like Future is not looking too bright. You do not want Muslims to integrate. That was part of the issue that prompted Reclaim Australia to issue a protest. Reclaim Australia would not even have existed if there was not an issue with Islamic fundamentalism trying to make their way into Australia. Australia is a secular society. We do not wish religious fundamentalism, whether they are Christian, Muslim, Hindu or whatever religious ultraconservative taking hold in Australia. Religion is obsolete in Australia for many for the last 50 years. [/quote]

They can integrate. They do integrate. I thought you said assimilate, sorry.

Reclaim Australia existed because there was one event you thought was terrorism, and you lack basic humanity and empathy and decided to hate all Muslims. No one is forcing you to be a Muslim, but Muslims are allowed. This is Australia.

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Reply #22 - May 21^st, 2022 at 9:15pm

UnSubRocky wrote on May 21^st, 2022 at 4:22pm:

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 21^st, 2022 at 3:25pm:

I love the bullshit about bots LOL!!

Yeah, I assume a failed life is why you lie about Islam. You're the same as Nazis.

Yes, if Hitler had only killed Jews and gays he would have been fine with you, right?

Muslims are not over represented in crime stats. That's bullshit. I don't recall seeing the news stories you obviously see reading the Daily Stormer.

I am good at my job *shrug*. I also type faster than most people.

You will find that bots are quite the thing on forums these days. I discovered one was auto-responding to people on another defunct forum some years ago. 'He' got deleted by the admin.

Your response sounds like you are just auto-responding with crap you have probably posted on another forum. "All minds think alike" maybe your philosophy of your opponents. None of my relatives are Nazis. None of my relatives think like Nazis. I am not a Nazi. I do not think like a Nazi. I can respect someone like Adolf Hitler. But, that does not mean that I like the man. He did enough narcissistic and then terrible things not to like him. As a leader, Adolf got his country up and running. And then he undid the good work with his war-mongering.

My interaction with Muslims is limited to the ones around town here. So, lucky me gets to interact with the good Muslims. However, I have met the really bad ones that take antisocial behaviour to a new level. I have also been to Sydney and seen how they act down there. A real pity that the bad ones give the good Muslims a bad name.

Seeing that you are hung up on associating me with Hitler, how about I associate you with Mugabe, Erdogan, or Malcolm X? If they only killed white, heterosexual, secular people, they would be alright with you?

Muslims make up 10% (or more) of prison populations in various areas. That, despite being only 2% of the country's population. And you do not hear about Muslim crimes, because the news media has to be as politically correct as possible these days.

I do not care if you type 120wpm. 84 posts in a 24 hour period means that you have a lot of free time on your hands. Yesterday must have been your day off.

No, I earned $1000 yesterday and still had time to bury your ignorant fascist bullshit. LOL!!!

Malcolm X was a legend, I'll take that. You hate religious minorities. Gonna gues you're not big on gay marriage or helping trans kids. You agree with Hitler

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Reply #23 - May 22^nd, 2022 at 12:27am

Firstly, learn how to quote properly. Or your responses are going to look like you are contradicting yourself a couple times over.

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 21^st, 2022 at 9:12pm:

Man Moris was not an Islamic terrorist, he was simply a nut. That whole situation was handled terribly, no one should have died. But one terrorist is not a wave of terrorism. As you said, 600k peaceful law abiding Muslims in Australia.

Man Monis had the Islamic State flag held up to the window of the Lindt chocolate cafe. He was on record in the media as having a fundamentalist viewpoint. When Monis took the cafe staff and a few patrons hostage, he became a terrorist. Ergo, Man Monis was an example of an Islamic terrorist. Thus, that ends the idea that Islamic terrorism has never existed in Australia. 600,000 peacefu

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I was too young to remember the Irish civil wars reported in the Australian media. But, I would be more supportive of people fighting for their right to independence than I would with an ultraconservative religion trying to impose their way of life on an increasingly secular world (no matter where they come from).

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In both cases, it's not happening in Australia, and not a threat to Australia. If anything, it gets the few Muslims radicalised by your ignorant bigotry out of the country

For one thing, I am not ignorant of terrorism issues. I study these things. And at least getting ignorant and misguided Islamic terrorists out of the country to fight in the desserts of Iraq is better than Islamic terrorists taking cafe patrons hostage. The terrorists can have their heads shot off by the remaining American forces or some genuine tribal member looking to keep the peace. "Getting radicalised Muslims out of the country"??? They should not have been radicalised in the first place. Their Muslim nutcase parents (and grandparents, perhaps) should not have come to Australia in the first place to continue with the schitt from where they escaped.

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As a mental trick that means nothing, as being Muslim and being Aussie never compete

What the hell is this supposed to mean? You conceding that the Muslims have a general loyalty to their religion before the country they live? Please continue to make the Reclaim Australia's point for them. That is another clanger in your file -- and I am making one for you.

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And you have simply tons of girlfriends, I know. bugger off and die, fascist.

Well, my reputation of having had many girlfriends is not in dispute. But your associating of me with right-wing extremism is well misguided. I happen to be centrist. Whether "liberal" or "authoritarian" depends on how I feel around voting time.

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The Cronulla riots would not have happened if Alan Jones was not a racist front bottom

The Cronulla riots were provoked by boisterous and sometimes violent Lebanese gangs terrorising people who could not fight back. When thousands of Sydneysiders converged on Cronulla beach to attack and intimidate anyone that looked Middle Eastern/Lebanese, you could not hear a peep from the Lebanese, until after the rioters went home. Later that night, carloads of Lebanese gangs were going around their home suburbs attacking anyone that looked white. But, then again, that is par for course for any day for the Lebanese in Australia.

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They can't be MORE anti gay than Christians. They are about the same. And so long as they have ideas that reject gays and don't hurt them, they have that right

I would not know. I am neither Christian or Muslim. I take note that Christian priests have a thing of being more pro-gay than anti-gay. Muslims have been known to cut off the genitals of homosexual people. But in Australia, Muslims have a liking for being against gays, calling girls in bathing suits "sluts", and acting like they are above the law.

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Muslims are at the fore front of fighting FGM, an African cultural practice prominent in all faiths in Africa and in their diaspora. I agree it is horrible. It's not Islamic. And let's face it, you couldn't find a clitoris either way

Well, you said so yourself. I had a heap of girlfriends. You were so jealous, you told me to bugger off and die. I dare say that I can find the clitoris much better than you. I would surmise that you, earning your $1000 at home probably do not associate with females much.

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You can't have three wives in Australia. Polygamous Muslims (a minority) and Christuans (they also exist) clearly don't marry more than one woman. You have ignored the point I made, because you are an ignoramus. The Muslim didn't increase the nunber of people on welfare and, yes, centrelink recognises polygamy for the purpose of lowing welfare payments.

You did not even read what I wrote, even after I explained to you what I meant. I did not mean that the guy was *legally married* to more than one wife. I meant that he treated the 3 women that he was with as wives. Of course he is not allowed more than one wife. But, he can have relationships and father children with more than one woman. He does not have to declare that he lives with any of the three. But, he can sponge off their single mother payments.

Your naivete`is astounding.

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Reply #24 - May 22^nd, 2022 at 12:37am

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 21^st, 2022 at 9:13pm:

This is ignorant bullshit and you are a moron LOL!!

But, later....

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They can integrate. They do integrate. I thought you said assimilate, sorry.

Hoisted with your own petard, Lefty.

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Reclaim Australia existed because there was one event you thought was terrorism, and you lack basic humanity and empathy and decided to hate all Muslims. No one is forcing you to be a Muslim, but Muslims are allowed. This is Australia.

Nobody is forcing me to be any religion. I have been asked to convert to various religions. I turned them all down. I gave up on Christianity by the time I was 9 years old. I claimed to be non-religious by the time I was 12 years old. I became anti-religious by the time I was 18 years old. And I learned to be tolerant of people who hold religious beliefs (to themselves) when I was 26 years old.

Reclaim Australia had rallied for more than just one terrorist event. And when you get out of your safe suburb and find out who and what Reclaim Australia is dealing with, you might start doing some thinking of your own. But, until you reprogram your mind into being realistic, your woke, liberal agenda will leave you in a delusional mindset, where you think there are no bad people and all the problems of the world are caused by white, heterosexual people.

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Reply #25 - May 22^nd, 2022 at 12:55am

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Malcolm X was a legend, I'll take that. You hate religious minorities. Gonna gues you're not big on gay marriage or helping trans kids. You agree with Hitler

1. Malcolm X was overrated. I was young when I fell for the idea that Malcolm X was an assertive, educated man. I watched the biopic on him, played by actor Denzel Washington. But, after a general research about the guy, it seemed that he was more of an arsehole than I thought. I do intend on reading his book. But, it would take a bit of convincing if I were to find that I was mistaken about my recent impression of Malcolm X.

2. I do not hate religious minorities. I hate religion. I cannot fathom how people would allow superstition to dictate their lives, over general common sense.

3. I voted "no" for the gay marriage referendum. I did not have anything against gay people getting married. But, after having been witness to heterophobia among the gay community (either in person or having watched various media depicting the gay community as such), I decided to vote "no" on allowing gay marriage. It does not bother me either way, because I am heterosexual, and it is not an issue for me. But, it was an opportunity to add one more vote as a protest vote against heterophobia.

As for trans children, I doubt that children are really old enough to know what they want until they are in their late teens. Someone might think that they are in the wrong gender and want to be associated with the opposite gender as one of them. Others might think that they have no gender. Honestly, I think it is just some cry for help. But, I would draw the line at children (at the insistence of their parents) taking things like estrogen to change their hormones somewhat to further reflect their gender. Leave that decision for when the person is an adult.

4. I agree with Hitler's ability to reorganise post-WW1 Germany into a functional society. I disagree with his war ambitions. None of my family fought in Europe. But, my friend's great uncle lost his entire family in the Holocaust.

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Reply #26 - May 22^nd, 2022 at 1:15am

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 21^st, 2022 at 9:12pm:

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In both cases, it's not happening in Australia, and not a threat to Australia. If anything, it gets the few Muslims radicalised by your ignorant bigotry out of the country

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They can't be MORE anti gay than Christians. They are about the same. And so long as they have ideas that reject gays and don't hurt them, they have that right

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Muslims are at the fore front of fighting FGM, an African cultural practice prominent in all faiths in Africa and in their diaspora. I agree it is horrible. It's not Islamic. And let's face it, you couldn't find a clitoris either way

So many lies from this brainless idiot who is new to this forum.

We have quite a few muslims in our jails on terrorist offences we spend millions trying to deradicalise other muslims which is futile.

This muslim and his friends weren't a threat? Do you have your head in the sand or up your ass?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdul_Nacer_Benbrika

Muslims are far more anti gay than christians. The Saudis still use beheading to cure poofs Iran started hanging them after the 1979 Islamic revolution and the Taliban- Islamic state threw poofs from tall buildings then stoned them to death if they survived the fall. The only countries that have the death penalty for poofters are governed by sharia law.

Your spineless apologetics on FGM don't cut it with people who know the truth. You can bullshit to yourself all you like anyone reading this will see how ignorant and stupid you really are.

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Nowadays we hear that many doctors denounce the circumcision of girls, and say that it harms them physically and psychologically,

and that circumcision is an inherited custom that has no basis is Islam .

Firstly:

Circumcision is not an inherited custom as some people claim, rather it is prescribed in Islam and the scholars are unanimously agreed that it is prescribed. Not a single Muslim scholar – as far as we know – has said that circumcision is not prescribed.

Secondly:

With regard to the criticism of circumcision by some doctors, and their claim that it is harmful both physically and psychologically,

This criticism of theirs is not valid. It is sufficient for us Muslims that something be proven to be from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), then we will follow it, and we are certain that it is beneficial and not harmful. If it were harmful, Allaah and His Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) would not have prescribed it for us.

https://islamqa.info/en/answers/60314/circumcision-of-girls-and-some-doctors-cri...

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Medical benefits of female circumcision

Female circumcision has not been prescribed for no reason, rather there is wisdom behind it and it brings many benefits.

Mentioning some of these benefits, Dr. Haamid al-Ghawaabi says:

The secretions of the labia minora accumulate in uncircumcised women and turn rancid, so they develop an unpleasant odour which may lead to infections of the vagina or urethra. I have seen many cases of sickness caused by the lack of circumcision.

Circumcision reduces excessive sensitivity of the clitoris which may cause it to increase in size to 3 centimeters when aroused, which is very annoying to the husband, especially at the time of intercourse.

Another benefit of circumcision is that it prevents stimulation of the clitoris which makes it grow large in such a manner that it causes pain.

Circumcision prevents spasms of the clitoris which are a kind of inflammation.

Circumcision reduces excessive sexual desire.

More here- https://islamqa.info/en/answers/45528/medical-benefits-of-female-circumcision

Like a typical ignorant morally bankrupt idiot you support the only religion than currently has the death penalty for poofters, blasphemers and atheists in places ruled by sharia law.

You should ask any muslims you claim to know on the death penalty in 13 countries ruled by sharia law for thought crimes like apostasy.
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for the Prophet (ﷺ) said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.' "

https://sunnah.com/bukhari:3017

This is what the Islamic state did with poofters. All muslims agree on death penalty they might disagree on the method to kill poofters.

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Reply #27 - May 22^nd, 2022 at 1:37am

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 21^st, 2022 at 9:13pm:

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I don't give a poo if people are on welfare. That's how society works. Muslims are unemployed more often not because they don't want to work, but because of racism

Look everyone. The racism card is getting produced. Muslims are not unemployed because of other people's racism. Much of the time, it is because they are not qualified to work in even entry level positions. I must tell my Muslim co-workers about your position on racism against Muslims.

This is ignorant bullshit and you are a moron LOL!!

The only ignorant bullshit here is coming from you.

Muslims are not a race in fact muslims come from every race including white people. There are numerous Sahih Ahadith that say Prophet Muhammad was a white man.

You cannot change your race by reciting the Shahda to become a muslim.

As for Islamic terror it's called Jihad perhaps you should read the Book of Jihad by Ibn Nuhaas.
Pick your link it's a free download- https://www.google.com.au/search?q=ibn+nuhaas+book+of+jihad+pdf&source=hp&ei=MgW...

You will find this link in the above list what do they say is it the best book on Jihad? https://islamfuture.wordpress.com/tag/al-ashwaq/

Lots of Nasheed videos on youtube from devout muslims try watching this one with white Bosnians it has subtitles so you can understand it. Catchy tune isn't it?

Every muslim believes Muhammad rode a flying donkey why do people put respect for ancient beliefs before respect for humanity?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buraq

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Reply #28 - May 22^nd, 2022 at 6:27am

UnSubRocky wrote on May 22^nd, 2022 at 12:37am:

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 21^st, 2022 at 9:13pm:

This is ignorant bullshit and you are a moron LOL!!

But, later....

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They can integrate. They do integrate. I thought you said assimilate, sorry.

Hoisted with your own petard, Lefty.

Unlike the right, if I make a mistake, I own it. I am used to you scum saying assimilate and I misread it. *shrug*. Loving the Green wave in Aussie politics? Your hate is dying out, old man

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Reclaim Australia existed because there was one event you thought was terrorism, and you lack basic humanity and empathy and decided to hate all Muslims. No one is forcing you to be a Muslim, but Muslims are allowed. This is Australia.

Nobody is forcing me to be any religion. I have been asked to convert to various religions. I turned them all down. I gave up on Christianity by the time I was 9 years old. I claimed to be non-religious by the time I was 12 years old. I became anti-religious by the time I was 18 years old. And I learned to be tolerant of people who hold religious beliefs (to themselves) when I was 26 years old.

No you didn't, LOL. You hate Muslims.

Reclaim Australia had rallied for more than just one terrorist event. And when you get out of your safe suburb and find out who and what Reclaim Australia is dealing with, you might start doing some thinking of your own. But, until you reprogram your mind into being realistic, your woke, liberal agenda will leave you in a delusional mindset, where you think there are no bad people and all the problems of the world are caused by white, heterosexual people.

Reclaim Australia was a Nazi movement. I've read books, the moment it started, I knew what you are. What happened to all your predictions? What was the last 'muslim terror event' in Australia? You lost, why are we not an Islamic nation, now? Might you have been full of poo?

I never said there are no bad people. Monis was a bad person. The terrorist in Melbourne was deeply mentally ill, but still a bad person. You are a bad person. Life is complex. Some Muslims are bad. Some straight white people are both bad, and have privilege they can use to harm others.

Nevertheless, you are human garbage and I was a significant part of destroying your Nazi movement. You got Pauline re-elected but she is fading fast. I reiterate. We just had an election and the entire country poo on every value you hold dear.

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Reply #29 - May 22^nd, 2022 at 6:33am

Baronvonrort wrote on May 22^nd, 2022 at 1:15am:

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 21^st, 2022 at 9:12pm:

FTLW: [quote]In both cases, it's not happening in Australia, and not a threat to Australia. If anything, it gets the few Muslims radicalised by your ignorant bigotry out of the country

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They can't be MORE anti gay than Christians. They are about the same. And so long as they have ideas that reject gays and don't hurt them, they have that right

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Muslims are at the fore front of fighting FGM, an African cultural practice prominent in all faiths in Africa and in their diaspora. I agree it is horrible. It's not Islamic. And let's face it, you couldn't find a clitoris either way

So many lies from this brainless idiot who is new to this forum.

Another ignorant front bottom enters the fray!!

We have quite a few muslims in our jails on terrorist offences we spend millions trying to deradicalise other muslims which is futile.

Yes, we have tons of Christians in jail as well. The claim of terrorism is always overstated for political purposes but I accept that out of 600k Muslims, about 20 have reasonably been locked up because they were radicalised by the internet. Same as you, really, but your Nazism is more protected in this country.

This muslim and his friends weren't a threat? Do you have your head in the sand or up your ass?

Does the port arthur shooter prove all white men are terrorists? Does Pell prove all Catholics rape children? The biggest issue is how dishonest and inconsistent you are. I never claimed there are no bad Muslims. I said being a Muslim does not make someone bad, or a threat.

Muslims are far more anti gay than christians. The Saudis still use beheading to cure poofs Iran started hanging them after the 1979 Islamic revolution and the Taliban- Islamic state threw poofs from tall buildings then stoned them to death if they survived the fall. The only countries that have the death penalty for poofters are governed by sharia law.

And yet you say 'poofters' LOL. Most islamic countries do not have the death penalty for gays but yes, the Republicans, the Nazis and the Taliban are pretty aligned on these things.

Your spineless apologetics on FGM don't cut it with people who know the truth. You can bullshit to yourself all you like anyone reading this will see how ignorant and stupid you really are.

As I said, I read a VERY thick book on FGM when I was burying your hate movement. You are quoting memes to me, old man. I can't post URLs here yet (one reason I did a lot of posting on Friday TBH). But any google will confirm Christians practice FGM, it's not Islamic

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Nowadays we hear that many doctors denounce the circumcision of girls, and say that it harms them physically and psychologically,

and that circumcision is an inherited custom that has no basis is Islam .

Firstly:

Circumcision is not an inherited custom as some people claim, rather it is prescribed in Islam and the scholars are unanimously agreed that it is prescribed. Not a single Muslim scholar – as far as we know – has said that circumcision is not prescribed.

This is simply untrue, but it's also not the point. Muslims who do it think it's Islamic. christians who do it, think it was Jesus' idea. They are both wrong, it's a cultural custom they've integrated into their view of their faith.

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With regard to the criticism of circumcision by some doctors, and their claim that it is harmful both physically and psychologically,

This criticism of theirs is not valid. It is sufficient for us Muslims that something be proven to be from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), then we will follow it, and we are certain that it is beneficial and not harmful. If it were harmful, Allaah and His Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) would not have prescribed it for us.

I never said no Muslims defend FGM. Here's the core fact. Eveything you claim Muslims do is illegal in Australia. Every Muslim doing these things, like the guys you point out are in jail, get arrested for it. You add nothing to this but hate for law abiding citizens.

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