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Reply #45 - May 3rd, 2022 at 12:18pm
 
trump bounces out of bed, uses his gold toilet, plays a round of golf with some awesome peers, engages in some locker room talk, has a blast, buzzes off his own awesomneness, has some wild sex, talks to the masses of adoring fans , sees he owes a few million and pulls that out of his back pocket without even noticing.

what a great day he has had.
so meaningful

gweggy posts about trump owing 2 million ( a lot of cash to a chode)
he posts about it 110,000 times.
he has no spare time to earn his own millions, play golf or develop an ecosystem of awesome sexy people.
he goes to bed alone and frustrated .
trumps never heard of him

what a terrible day he has had
so meaningless
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Reply #46 - May 3rd, 2022 at 12:19pm
 

NEW YORK – New York Attorney General Letitia James today released the following statement after Donald J. Trump was forced to pay more than $2 million in court-ordered damages to eight different charities for illegally misusing charitable funds at the Trump Foundation for political purposes:

“Not only has the Trump Foundation shut down for its misconduct, but the president has been forced to pay $2 million for misusing charitable funds for his own political gain. Charities are not a means to an end, which is why these damages speak to the president’s abuse of power and represent a victory for not-for-profits that follow the law. Funds have finally gone where they deserve — to eight credible charities. My office will continue to fight for accountability because no one is above the law — not a businessman, not a candidate for office, and not even the president of the United States.”
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Reply #47 - May 3rd, 2022 at 12:26pm
 

Noam Chomsky:

Well, there is, fortunately, one statesman in the United States and Europe, a high political figure, who has made a very sensible statement about how you can solve the crisis. Namely, by facilitating negotiations instead of undermining them and moving toward establishing some kind of accommodation in Europe, in which there are no military alliances, but just mutual accommodation.

He didn’t say it, but it was something like George H.W. Bush proposed in the early-90s after the collapse of the Soviet Union. Proposed what they called a partnership for peace, which would be open for Europeans generally, Eurasians as well, it wouldn’t eliminate NATO, but he would live to the promise that NATO would not expand to the east. Firm promise to Gorbachev. Keep to that. Allow NATO there, but kind of deemphasize it so other countries could join, including Russia, for that matter, and move toward a Eurasia with no military alliances.

I think DeGaul had a similar vision. Emmanuel Macron, in his initiatives trying to contact Putin, suggested something similar. So, going back to the one Western statesman, he didn’t mention all of this, but he suggested something similar. Move towards negotiations and diplomacy instead of escalating the war. Try to see if we can bring about accommodation, which would be roughly along these lines.

His name is Donald J. Trump.


https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1520751923355398144

Trump - legend.
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Reply #48 - May 3rd, 2022 at 12:27pm
 

As part of a resolution of the lawsuit announced on November 7th, Trump was ordered to pay $2 million, or $250,000, a piece to eight different charities. Those charities are Army Emergency Relief, the Children’s Aid Society, Citymeals-on-Wheels, Give an Hour, Martha’s Table, the United Negro College Fund, the United Way of National Capital Area, and the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum. Additionally, Trump was forced to reimburse his namesake foundation $11,525 for sports paraphernalia and champagne purchased at a charity gala, which was added to $1,797,598.30 already in the foundation’s bank account. The combined $1,809,123.30 was split evenly and recently transferred to the eight agreed upon charities. Each charity ended up receiving a total of $476,140.41.
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Reply #49 - May 3rd, 2022 at 1:20pm
 
trump bounces out of bed and tweets.

millions of people engage.

gweggy bounces out of bed and posts

no one notices (especially not the big fella)
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Reply #50 - May 3rd, 2022 at 2:24pm
 

Additionally, as part of the settlement, Trump was required to agree to 19 admissions, acknowledging his personal misuse of funds at the Trump Foundation, and agreed to restrictions on future charitable service and ongoing reporting to the Office of the Attorney General, in the event he creates a new charity. The settlement also included mandatory training requirements for Donald Trump Jr., Ivanka Trump, and Eric Trump, which the three children have already undergone. Finally, the settlement required the Trump Foundation to shutter its doors last December and dissolve under court supervision.
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Reply #51 - May 3rd, 2022 at 5:58pm
 
aquascoot wrote on May 3rd, 2022 at 1:20pm:
trump bounces out of bed and tweets.

millions of people engage.

gweggy bounces out of bed and posts

no one notices (especially not the big fella)


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trump bounces out of bed and tweets.


Trump hasn't tweeted anything in 15 months ?

Trump even failed at twitter. Just like everything else.
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Reply #52 - May 3rd, 2022 at 6:11pm
 
aquascoot wrote on May 3rd, 2022 at 10:26am:
America has been in decline since the 60s

Trump was the nation's last-gasp attempt to reduce the size and influence of government
And set people back on the path of self reliance and personal responsibility which made America great in the first place

Trump attempted to break up the pathological establishment
But it was always going to be an impossible miracles pull off


Incorrect. Figures show consistent GDP growth in the US since 1948.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/996758/rea-gdp-growth-united-states-1930-201...

The only times US economic growth has dropped to below 0% since the 60s is 1973 (the oil shocks), 1981 (Latin American loans crisis), 1991 ("credit crunch"), 2008 (GFC) and 2019 (covid).

Trump made no attempts to reduce the size and influence of government. Trump added over 8 trillion dollars to US government debt in less than one term, even before covid 19, wiping out the gains made during the slow GFC recovery. Trump's own budget office called it a "national debt crisis". Trump's presidency was the biggest spending administration in US history.

https://www.propublica.org/article/national-debt-trump

His solution? Increase tariffs. Trump believed his trade wars would bring in revenue, paying off debt "like water". This never happened. The revenue was dished out to farmers and small manufacturers, and ultimately, the money came from American consumers anyway. Trump's trade wars turned into the ever-increasing tax-and-spend cycle that had led to the GATT and all the previous work done on reducing tariffs in the past half century. In one administration, Trump upended global supply chains, disrupted the global financial system and created inflation even before covid. Far from any election rigging, Biden got many of his votes from the farmers and manufacturers hit hardest by Trump's trade wars, particularly in the swing states Trump contested, such as Wisconsin and Pennsylvania.

As dysfunctional and destructive as it was, this was the election Trump wanted to fight: the economy and global trade. This was before covid hit and Trump turned into an even bigger spender, desperately trying to save his political skin. Trump's original strategy was to ignore the pandemic to keep trade talks going with China, who he originally praised for working closely with the US. When Trump couldn't pretend anymore, he reversed to blame the pandemic on China, trying to draw attention away from his own mismanagement of what he called the "Chi-na virus". You know the rest of the story. Bleach injections, heat and light, refusing to be seen in a face mask, catching and spreading covid, spruiking fake cures and the daily, ever-increasing death toll. The Trump presidency became an even bigger joke than anyone could have ever imagined, you couldn't make it up.

Ultimately, there was the election defeat, the silence, the legal attempts, the humiliating attempts to cling to power at all costs. The plots, the threats, the insurrection. It just went on and on. But do you know? I think we should remember Trump at his best, as the instigator of trade wars. This, after all, is how he really wanted to be seen: the great disrupter, the destroyer, preening to the chants of his followers: "smash it up."

Trump was the embodiment of the pathological establishment you describe. He allowed government debt to increase by a third. He undermined decades of tariff reduction and work on free trade, weakening the US and global economy. He stood by as covid hit, showing his arrogance, naked self-interest and inability to lead in a crisis. Far from being into small government, Trump imagined grand projects, infrastructure schemes to rival FDR, a great, big beautiful wall from coast to shining coast, and "as you know, I can build things, believe me". This is how I think we should judge Trump: on what he promised. None of it came to fruition, not even close. Today, after the corporate tax cuts, the trade wars and all the covid stimulus costs, the US is left with nothing in the bank. No great new highways, no big beautiful walls, and a mountain of debt.

The US has not been in decline since the 60s, but out of all those recessions from 1973 to 2019, the biggest recession started in 2019. Today, at -3.4%, GDP growth is the lowest it's been since 1946.

https://www.statista.com/chart/24056/annual-real-gdp-growth-in-the-united-states...

Trump came to power in 2016 with a modest 1.6% GDP growth figure, which grew to 2.7% for the first two years of his administration due to Reserve Bank and Obama-era policies, and the result of an improving housing and employment market, eight years after the GFC. What happened next, however, has nothing to do with covid or the Reserve Bank. World Bank figures show a drop in growth of 0.86% from 2018 to 2019, prior to any hit from covid. This was the emerging effect of Trump's trade wars. And after covid, of course, it has been in freefall ever since.

America has not been in decline since the 60s, but it may well be now.

Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?
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Reply #53 - May 3rd, 2022 at 7:05pm
 
aquascoot wrote on May 3rd, 2022 at 10:26am:
America has been in decline since the 60s


Trump was the nation's last-gasp attempt to reduce the size and influence of government
And set people back on the path of self reliance and personal responsibility which made America great in the first place

Trump attempted to break up the pathological establishment
But it was always going to be an impossible miracles pull off


Apart from pre election 2016 rhetoric Trump made no attempt to do anything to reduce either the size or influence of government.

Trump had 4 years to keep some of his commitments but went out to play golf instead.

About the only think that Trump did do was to give the wealthiest Americans an unaffordable and unfunded $2 Trillion tax cut.

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Reply #54 - May 3rd, 2022 at 7:11pm
 
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maybe a legend in his own urine ?
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Reply #55 - May 3rd, 2022 at 10:37pm
 
aquascoot wrote on May 3rd, 2022 at 10:26am:
America has been in decline since the 60s

Trump was the nation's last-gasp attempt to reduce the size and influence of government
And set people back on the path of self reliance and personal responsibility which made America great in the first place

Trump attempted to break up the pathological establishment
But it was always going to be an impossible miracles pull off

When the population have had it so good for so long
Getting them to break out of the state of infantile responsibility
And break out of the inertia of chode purgatory is nigh on impossible

It seems certain now that the American experiment is over

What will replace it is now the big question



America has been accommodating all its enemies since the 60s.

No other great power has ever had that strategy - and now America the Accommodating stands for nothing you can believe in.
The barbarians are inside the gates and are destroying the city. With eager help from the inhabitants.

Accommodating the whole range of toxic loons, from Greta to Xi ping Pong and Putin and the muslims and the EU, etc - no credibility, only weakness and lack of confidence. And once your lack of confidence is in evidence you are fkkd.

America without American confidence is hicksville nothing. That's why Jan 6  2021 was such an American day. It was another Boston Tea Party.
A bit too muted, but the spirit was there.




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Reply #56 - May 3rd, 2022 at 11:02pm
 
Frank wrote on May 3rd, 2022 at 10:37pm:
America has been accommodating all its enemies since the 60s.

No other great power has ever had that strategy






The Romans did. Vastly multicultural society. And all the richer for it.
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Reply #57 - May 3rd, 2022 at 11:07pm
 
mothra wrote on May 3rd, 2022 at 11:02pm:
Frank wrote on May 3rd, 2022 at 10:37pm:
America has been accommodating all its enemies since the 60s.

No other great power has ever had that strategy






The Romans did. Vastly multicultural society. And all the richer for it.

You are an ignorant, thick, resentful old bag.  Don't try the 'oh, I know' wheeze because you don't know.  You are thick AND ignorant and you try to make up for it by being loud. Doesn't work.


Rome tolerated other cultures as long as they SUBMITTED to Rome.

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Reply #58 - May 3rd, 2022 at 11:11pm
 
Frank wrote on May 3rd, 2022 at 11:07pm:
mothra wrote on May 3rd, 2022 at 11:02pm:
Frank wrote on May 3rd, 2022 at 10:37pm:
America has been accommodating all its enemies since the 60s.

No other great power has ever had that strategy






The Romans did. Vastly multicultural society. And all the richer for it.

You are an ignorant, thick, resentful old bag.  Don't try the 'oh, I know' wheeze because you don't know.  You are thick AND ignorant and you try to make up for it by being loud. Doesn't work.


Rome tolerated other cultures as long as they SUBMITTED to Rome.




Rubbish. Ancient Rome was heavily infused with the cultures it absorbed into it's fold.

Successful multiculturalism.

In any case, those living in the US are required to submit to US law. Your argument is meaningless.
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Reply #59 - May 3rd, 2022 at 11:44pm
 
Which of the following have not been a primary Republican talking point that they have used in place of policies or to cover the fact that they have no policies ?

     1) Mr Potato Head
     2) Dr Seuss
     3) Mr Ed
     4) M&M's

A: ?

Yes believe it or not all these but for 1 were the dominant Republican talking points.

People wonder why nobody takes them seriously.
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