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Reply #15 - May 31^st, 2022 at 8:04pm

lee wrote on May 31^st, 2022 at 7:58pm:

Johnnie wrote on May 31^st, 2022 at 7:38pm:

You reckon we are running out of copper steel and magnetic material, i thought you meant cobolt lithium or something.

Even the rare earth price is going up.

"Lithium Prices Have Nearly Doubled In 2022 Amid Insane Commodity Rally"

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/lithium-prices-nearly-doubled-2022-170000490.html

Copper is also up.

https://www.dailyfx.com/copper-prices

"Cobalt prices to rise as demand-supply deficit widens: analysts "

https://www.spglobal.com/commodityinsights/en/market-insights/latest-news/metals...

Cobalt too.

Yes prices have gone up but the main materials needed like steel copper and cement are in abundance. We will run out of air before we run out of them.

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Reply #16 - May 31^st, 2022 at 8:06pm

lee wrote on May 31^st, 2022 at 8:00pm:

random wrote on May 31^st, 2022 at 7:59pm:

I'll take option 1.

Anyway coal freaks love mines right?

The best poor randy can do is mindless repetition. Grin

I'm guessing that it takes many repetitions to get something into your thick skull. All the scientists on the planet have so far failed.

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21516 Gender:	Re: More on wind turbines Reply #17 - May 31^st, 2022 at 8:07pm Johnnie wrote on May 31^st, 2022 at 8:04pm: Yes prices have gone up but the main materials needed like steel copper and cement are in abundance. We will run out of air before we run out of them. Now all you have to do is factor in the many thousand of wind turbines needing to be manufactured and mounted.
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Reply #18 - May 31^st, 2022 at 8:08pm

lee wrote on May 31^st, 2022 at 7:53pm:

John Smith wrote on May 31^st, 2022 at 7:41pm:

it's hilarious how lee always tries to claim that the small windmill is unsustainable but the giant steel mill,with 1000 times the raw materials required,is perfectly fine

Poor Guido. What small windmill? The ones used by the dutch or the ones used by Aussie farmers?

So this giant steel mill what is it going to use for energy? Green hydrogen according to studies returns 18-46% of the power in the round from generating the hydrogen to powering something with that hydrogen.

https://www.spglobal.com/marketintelligence/en/news-insights/latest-news-headlin...
..Again too funny. Grin

are you pretending a windmill, and a coal burning electricity generator are even remotely similar in size? or use anywhere near the same amount of raw materials ?

Grin

you're stupidity is only surpassed by your ----------

ohh wait, nothing surpasses your stupidity

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21516 Gender:	Re: More on wind turbines Reply #19 - May 31^st, 2022 at 8:08pm random wrote on May 31^st, 2022 at 8:06pm: I'm guessing that it takes many repetitions to get something into your thick skull. All the scientists on the planet have so far failed. Even more to find you brain. Never mind randy we know.
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Reply #20 - May 31^st, 2022 at 8:36pm

random wrote on May 31^st, 2022 at 7:07pm:

https://media2.giphy.com/media/3MbRNvfnMyUJeKGlsw/giphy.gif
Wind turbines are such an eyesore.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/ucs-images/soot+storymap/coal-smoke-lq.gif
We need more of these!

You do realise, Greta - no, you don't Embarrassed

-, that the picture of your second image shows water vapour (steam), not 'pollution'.

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21516 Gender:	Re: More on wind turbines Reply #21 - May 31^st, 2022 at 8:49pm John Smith wrote on May 31^st, 2022 at 8:08pm: are you pretending a windmill, and a coal burning electricity generator are even remotely similar in size? or use anywhere near the same amount of raw materials ? You posted it. Own it.
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Reply #22 - May 31^st, 2022 at 8:52pm

lee wrote on May 31^st, 2022 at 8:07pm:

Johnnie wrote on May 31^st, 2022 at 8:04pm:

Yes prices have gone up but the main materials needed like steel copper and cement are in abundance. We will run out of air before we run out of them.

Now all you have to do is factor in the many thousand of wind turbines needing to be manufactured and mounted.

Its already been factored into it in places like Pt Augusta where they blew up the fossil fuel generators and replaced them with wind and solar. SA can hardly use all the power they produce most days.

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21516 Gender:	Re: More on wind turbines Reply #23 - May 31^st, 2022 at 9:29pm Johnnie wrote on May 31^st, 2022 at 8:52pm: SA can hardly use all the power they produce most days. 6 1/2 days is not most days.
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Johnnie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 12485 Gender:	Re: More on wind turbines Reply #24 - May 31^st, 2022 at 10:02pm lee wrote on May 31^st, 2022 at 9:29pm: Johnnie wrote on May 31^st, 2022 at 8:52pm: SA can hardly use all the power they produce most days. 6 1/2 days is not most days. Keep going Lee, and then take into account power being exported.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21516 Gender:	Re: More on wind turbines Reply #25 - May 31^st, 2022 at 10:17pm Johnnie wrote on May 31^st, 2022 at 10:02pm: Keep going Lee, and then take into account power being exported. "South Australia’s Record-Breaking 156Hr Renewable Run" https://www.energymatters.com.au/renewable-news/south-australias-record-breaking...
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Reply #26 - Jun 1^st, 2022 at 4:55am

lee wrote on May 31^st, 2022 at 10:17pm:

Johnnie wrote on May 31^st, 2022 at 10:02pm:

Keep going Lee, and then take into account power being exported.

"South Australia’s Record-Breaking 156Hr Renewable Run"

https://www.energymatters.com.au/renewable-news/south-australias-record-breaking...

That is good going! A lot of the time when the wind is blowing and there is full sun in SA they don't even switch on all the solar farms, for some reason those on the east coast would rather shovel dirty coal into their generators than pay for green power.

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Reply #27 - Jun 1^st, 2022 at 6:43am

Frank wrote on May 31^st, 2022 at 8:36pm:

random wrote on May 31^st, 2022 at 7:07pm:

https://media2.giphy.com/media/3MbRNvfnMyUJeKGlsw/giphy.gif
Wind turbines are such an eyesore.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/ucs-images/soot+storymap/coal-smoke-lq.gif
We need more of these!

You do realise, Greta - no, you don't Embarrassed

-, that the picture of your second image shows water vapour (steam), not 'pollution'.

Of course! Coal fired power stations only release water vapour!

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Reply #28 - Jun 1^st, 2022 at 11:14am

Johnnie wrote on Jun 1^st, 2022 at 4:55am:

That is good going! A lot of the time when the wind is blowing and there is full sun in SA they don't even switch on all the solar farms, for some reason those on the east coast would rather shovel dirty coal into their generators than pay for green power.

You should look at grid instability with renewables. Plus the solar companies are paid to produce whether it is actually on line or not.

"The Renewable Energy Target is a subsidy. Building new wind and solar costs more than existing coal and gas generation. The RET enables solar and wind providers to sell renewable energy certificates to make up the difference between the electricity they sell and the costs of building new power stations. The cost of the certificates—the subsidy to renewables—is paid by electricity consumers through their power bills.

This cost totals approximately $2 billion per year."

https://reneweconomy.com.au/ret-market-distorting-subsidy-renewable-energy-63472...

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FutureTheLeftWant Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6625 Gender:	Re: More on wind turbines Reply #29 - Jun 1^st, 2022 at 11:16am freediver wrote on Apr 16^th, 2022 at 7:38am: So they are selling at a lost, but will be unable to meet expected demand? Sounds like someone is trying to spin it both ways at the same time. Can't afford to build. can't meet demand
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