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Reply #90 - Apr 16th, 2022 at 12:53pm
 
I was there

It happened

In my lifetime

In the 70s

The Murder rate is off the scale and the rape rate as well - even children even babies

That happens now



There are literally hundreds of accounts of Aboriginal cannibalism, dating from the first European settlement in Australia to the 1930s or even later.

Reports of Aboriginal cannibalism comprised a significant component of works on Aboriginal society down to the 1950s or even later.

Aboriginal cannibalism had many different aspects, but the practice existed because of one all-important fact. The Aborigines were pre-literate nomadic hunter-gatherers, who did not grow crops or domesticate livestock for food, and thus were often starving, and were certainly lacking in protein sources. As a result, they turned to eating human flesh, often making a virtue of necessity by endowing the practice with religious significance. Sometimes their cannibalism consisted of deliberately killing and eating small children, women, or the elderly, sometimes of eating enemy warriors slain in battle in the frequent inter-tribal wars and conflicts (which are also almost entirely missing from recent accounts of Aboriginal society).
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Reply #91 - Apr 16th, 2022 at 1:06pm
 
Aborigines practised cannibalism and, especially, baby-eating”. Biber claimed that “these cannibal claims were derived from works by Hector Holthouse, Henry Mayhew, various travellers and explorers and, especially, Daisy Bates”.
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Reply #92 - Apr 16th, 2022 at 1:38pm
 
Boris wrote on Apr 16th, 2022 at 12:22pm:
The death rate for indigenous people was 5.65 per 100,000 of the general Aboriginal population. The rate for non-Aboriginal people was 0.3.

Higher than the birth rate - becoming extinct


I cannot find a birth rate vs death rate for indigenous Australians to make a comparison.
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Reply #93 - Apr 16th, 2022 at 1:42pm
 

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Nobody has any records of cannibalism activity in the 1970s, Matty.   Produce some evidence or piss off.   All you've done is reveal all the Racists.  Well done... Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes




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Reply #94 - Apr 16th, 2022 at 3:35pm
 
It happened - I was there and I know it went on.

The last wild Aborigines were brought in in 1984 - they were Cannibals


Reports of Aboriginal cannibalism comprised a significant component of works on Aboriginal society down to the 1950s or even later.

So here are the questions?

Were they ever Cannibals?

When did they stop?

As I was in the Territory and the Doctors were talking about it as an ongoing issue in Arnhem Land and compared it to PNG I can say it was still going on in the 70s.

Certainly that group that came in in 1984 were Cannibals so that is even the 80s that I know about.

What about the rape and murder of children?

That still happens every day


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Reply #95 - Apr 16th, 2022 at 4:09pm
 

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Nobody has any records of cannibalism activity in the 1970s, Matty.   Produce some evidence or piss off.   All you've done is reveal all the Racists.  Well done... Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


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Reply #96 - Apr 16th, 2022 at 5:01pm
 
you are a waste of time

you are in love with a people who rape and murder children

in my lifetime they ate children

You have never seen all the carnage I have

It is hell - a war zone - these people that do these things are monsters
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Reply #97 - Apr 16th, 2022 at 6:06pm
 

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Nobody has any records of cannibalism activity in the 1970s, Matty.   Produce some evidence or piss off.   All you've done is reveal all the Racists.  Well done... Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



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Reply #98 - Apr 17th, 2022 at 7:43am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 16th, 2022 at 12:50pm:
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Nobody has any records of cannibalism activity in the 1970s, Matty.   Produce some evidence or piss off.   All you've done is reveal all the Racists.  Well done... Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


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Reply #99 - Apr 17th, 2022 at 8:37am
 
We live in a Country where monsters are real.

Alleged rape of toddler among more than 700 NT child sexual offence cases in five years, police say

More than 20 notifications were made to child services about the Tennant Creek household where a two-year-old girl was allegedly raped, but Territory Families maintains there were "no specific concerns".

The toddler was allegedly raped in the outback town, about 500 kilometres north of Alice Springs, last week.

Territory Families has confirmed the department received 21 notifications about the household dating back to August 2015, but only six had been substantiated.

The child's uncle, who cannot be named for legal reasons, said eight notifications had been made to child services in the two months leading up to the incident.


Sexual offence cases involving children under 16 years in NT:
2013: 118
2014: 125
2015: 149
2016: 163
2017: 149
2018 (to Jan 31): 10
Territory Families Chief Executive Ken Davies said reports made about the household related to domestic violence and alcohol.

"In terms of the notifications we received, there were no specific concerns that came to Territory Families about particular harm to this child of a sexual nature," he said.

"They were not substantial enough to take the child out of this household and away from the mother."

"What we did was where these issues were substantiated, we responded and we put in family support services to support the family and the mother in that household."

There has been 714 cases of sexual offence involving children under the age of 16 during the past five years in the Northern Territory, police revealed on Thursday.

Already there have been 10 this year.

According to police, there were 20 notifications from NT Police since July 2015 about the family of the child who was allegedly raped, and 16 of those were directly to Territory Families.

The NT Government has since ordered an immediate investigation into its handling of the case and a review of all cases where children had been subject to multiple notifications.

The Acting Chief Minister Nicole Manison conceded the government had "failed" the child.

Dozens of letters have been sent to government ministers in recent months outlining concerns for safety, but locals say they went unanswered until reports of the alleged rape surfaced on Tuesday.

They have also questioned the distribution of police resources, with the town's only mobile CCTV camera unit relocated to Alice Springs.

Territory Families 'disconnected' from Aboriginal community
The girl's uncle said his family was distressed by what had happened and called for less Top End-based decision-making on local issues.

"There were concerns about this little girl and nothing really happened," he said.

"Eight notifications in the last two months and they haven't sent one to this office here because they assessed it as not high risk. How do they know? They don't live here.

"Failure after failure after failure, how much longer can we put up with this?"

Anyinginyi Health Aboriginal Corporation chair Ross Jakamarra Williams, who is also a traditional owner of Tennant Creek, said local police and government agencies had failed the community for years.

"The Department (of Territory Families) employees do not work in the interest of this community because they themselves are totally disconnected from Aboriginal families and the real issues they face," he said.

"What I have lived and witnesses in the past two weeks is intolerant and unacceptable for any community in this country."

'For God's sake, think of the children'

The Federal Indigenous Affairs Minister and Northern Territory Senator Nigel Scullion said he was "shocked and appalled" by the "horrific allegations".

Senator Scullion will visit the outback town today, and said he had asked the NT Government to be "as open and transparent as possible" about the circumstances leading up to the incident.

"To be absolutely clear, while many facts about the tragic circumstances are still unknown, incidents like these are not unique to or characteristics of being Indigenous," he said in a statement.

"The reality is the vast majority of Indigenous families love and care for their children, raising them in healthy and happy homes, connected to their land and their culture."

On Wednesday more than 100 residents gathered in the remote central Australian town demanding a united and local approach to fixing the government's "failure" and protecting the town's children.

Federal Minister for Indigenous Health Ken Wyatt said the incident was unacceptable, but warned against finger-pointing.

"It's easy to say an agency hasn't responded, or a government hasn't responded," he told ABC Radio Darwin.

"But on a broader front, as Indigenous Australians, we've been asking for a reduction in the number of aboriginal children in out-of-home care."

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-22/indigenous-groups-urge-government-to-address-tennant-creek-abuse/9473002
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Reply #100 - Apr 17th, 2022 at 9:21am
 
Rates of hospitalisation for neglect and abandonment among indigenous children have been put at thirty to eighty times higher than for the non-indigenous population.[1]
More than 12,000 Aboriginal children have been removed and are in care, making up a third of all Australian children in care.[2]
One in nineteen Aboriginal children is in care, ten times the non-indigenous rate.[3]
In Queensland, one in every 2.2 Aboriginal children is known to Child Safety, and this is expected to increase to every second child being known to Child Safety this fiscal year. In 2007–08, only one in 4.6 Aboriginal children was known to Child Safety.[4]
Yet under-reporting of the sexual abuse of Aboriginal children may be nearly 90 per cent.[5]

[1] http://www.aic.gov.au/publications/current per cent20series/rpp/100-120/rpp105.html, p55

[2] http://www.aifs.gov.au/cfca/pubs/factsheets/a142117/index.html

[3] ibid

[4] http://www.childprotectioninquiry.qld.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0010/175393/Chapter-3.pdf p37

[5] Op cit see 2

[6] But if, as Rudd claimed, there had been “tens of thousands” or “up to 50,000” stolen children, it is odd that the judiciary in court has verified only one stolen child, Bruce Trevorrow, who was taken in 1958 as an ill baby by a well-meaning but misguided white couple. That taking was in defiance of, rather than conformity with, policies of the SA State government against removal of Aboriginal children from their parents. Trevorrow in August 2007 won $535,000 damages plus $250,000 interest.

            [7] Windschuttle, Keith, The Fabrication of Aboriginal History, Vol 111, Macleay Press, `            Sydney 2009. P603
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Reply #101 - Apr 17th, 2022 at 11:59am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 16th, 2022 at 6:06pm:
https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/120/google/223...

Nobody has any records of cannibalism activity in the 1970s, Matty.   Produce some evidence or piss off.   All you've done is reveal all the Racists.  Well done... Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes





Pray limit not thine good self to the 1970's Brian.... hardly any of those you call 'racists' are discussing the 1970's - but from the endless parade of reports going back to Civilisation Day, it would be clearly evidenced that cannibalism did take place, and old habits are hard to break.

Thank God for the White Man's Arrival, eh?

Trotting out facile terms to demean those who stand for truth as written, will not help your case or that of your Chosen Black Wonderpeople who never do any wrong while killing and raping and bashing one another in another endless parade, and then complain about the consequences.

As for the NT agencies not helping - maybe they just feel, with all the hype about Invasion and Enslavement to the White Man's Way and all that - lose if you intervene/lose if you don't - it is simply better to allow the Indigenous to kill one another off etc and ignore the whole thing.

Let The Abos Do Things THEIR Way!!! 

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Bring on mothra to explain to we peasants all about generational disadvantage and so forth.  Well - they were disadvantaged before the White Man arrived - whose fault is it they haven't taken advantage of opportunities, instead of wallowing in their own disadvantaged lifestyle?
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Reply #102 - Apr 17th, 2022 at 2:22pm
 
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Oh dearie, dearie, me.  It appears that some people get upset at having their comments labelled as what they are - Racism.  Tough luck.  If you post something Racist, it will be called for what it is - Racism.   The only person at fault is yourself.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #103 - Apr 17th, 2022 at 6:41pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 17th, 2022 at 2:22pm:
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Oh dearie, dearie, me.  It appears that some people get upset at having their comments labelled as what they are - Racism.  Tough luck.  If you post something Racist, it will be called for what it is - Racism.   The only person at fault is yourself.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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Reply #104 - Apr 17th, 2022 at 7:04pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 17th, 2022 at 2:22pm:
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Oh dearie, dearie, me.  It appears that some people get upset at having their comments labelled as what they are - Racism.  Tough luck.  If you post something Racist, it will be called for what it is - Racism.   The only person at fault is yourself.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Your stupid shrieking of "wacism" is very selective, as to be expected from a moronic, ignorant pwogwessive airhead.



There is no special effort to eradicate, problematise, decolonise, or otherwise act in an 'anti-racist' manner against the legacy of Marx and his circle.

And this is strange because as anybody who has read the work of Marx – especially his private letters to Engels – will know, Marx's reputation by the lights of our own age ought to be toast by now.

In one letter written in 1862, Marx turns his wrath on one of their fellow radicals, Ferdinand Lassalle, for not only being Jewish but for also having negroid features and hair. ('It is now quite plain to me he is descended from the negroes who accompanied Moses' flight from Egypt.') He uses the N-word more than once.
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This is not the only occasion that such a sentiment came from Marx's pen. In another letter, he reflects on the 'degenerative' nature of the 'common negro' and the 'leprous' nature of the Jewish people.

Moreover, he didn't just keep his racism to his private correspondence. In an article in a New York newspaper, he wrote that 'we find every tyrant backed by a Jew' and claimed that there exists always 'a handful of Jews to ransack pockets'.

And these proto-Hitlerian views are consistent throughout his life. In 1843, Marx writes: 'What is the worldly religion of the Jew? Huckstering. What is his worldly God? Money.'

In public and in private, Marx comes over as anti-black, antisemitic, anti-Indian, pro-colonialist and racist.
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Marx was far worse than any of the people whom Leftist campaigners have spent recent years lambasting.

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What becomes clear in analysing the differences between the treatment of Marx and the treatment of almost every other thinker of the West is that Marx is protected because his writings and reputation are useful for anyone wishing to pull down the West.
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