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Re: Australia and NZ numbers for today:
Reply #1695 - Jan 25^th, 2023 at 4:22pm

Carl D wrote on Jan 25^th, 2023 at 4:13pm:

"People need to go to prison for this"

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My brother was in hospital for chemo treatment late November and caught COVID while he was in the cancer ward. He is still in hospital. He phoned to say his goodbyes last night. His organs are failing.

Yes, they do need to go to prison. For a very long time.

This is in Queensland, by the way.

Home of aquascoot's hero Dr. Death Gerrard.

dr gerrard is a fine chief health officer.

chemo and cancer may have been co-morbidities dont you think carl?
died with covid, not from it .
hardly a jailable offence
get some perspective man

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Re: Australia and NZ numbers for today:
Reply #1696 - Jan 25^th, 2023 at 4:22pm

Big Donger wrote on Jan 25^th, 2023 at 12:32am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 24^th, 2023 at 5:47pm:

Big Donger wrote on Jan 24^th, 2023 at 5:38pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 24^th, 2023 at 9:41am:

So Laura Tingle wants to discuss the country's latest covid strategy

Good.for.her

Please inform Laura that The vaccines do not prevent you catching the disease
Do not prevent you spreading the disease
And that as such the only sensible strategy applicable to covid-19

Is one of personal responsibility

I know it's hard for lefty journalists to accept that some things cannot be fixed by running off to an authority figure

But in the case of covid-19
Our politicians and chief health officers have gone radio silent
Purely because they have nothing to offer

This is excellent news
The superior man always knew that his health was his own responsibility

Personal responsibility, eh?

Do you mean locking oneself away to not catch covid?

Locking others away?

Or forcing oneself to not die and refusing to submit to long covid?

Please explain?

i mean understanding that you are responsible for your lifestyle choices which cause the vast majority of co-morbidities.
you have had 2 1/2 years to work on your nutrition, wieght and cardiac fitness
you need to "get after it"
if you are old, you are responsible for coming to terms with your fast approaching demise and you need to be comfortable with that.

any other questions?

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Lynette “Diamond” Hardaway, one half of the right-wing commentary duo Diamond and Silk, died of heart disease due to chronic high blood pressure, according to a death certificate obtained by the Associated Press.

Hardaway died on Jan. 8 at 51 years old, prompting widespread speculation about the cause of her death. When former President Donald Trump announced the news, he said it was “totally unexpected” and surmised that “probably her big and precious HEART just plain gave out.”

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Thoughts and prayers, no?

anecdotal evidence is not scientific evidence

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Carl D Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10937 Rivervale, Perth Gender:	Re: Australia and NZ numbers for today: Reply #1697 - Jan 25^th, 2023 at 4:28pm flip page.
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Carl D Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10937 Rivervale, Perth Gender:	Re: Australia and NZ numbers for today: Reply #1698 - Jan 25^th, 2023 at 4:29pm flip page.
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Re: Australia and NZ numbers for today:
Reply #1699 - Jan 25^th, 2023 at 4:29pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 25^th, 2023 at 4:22pm:

dr gerrard is a fine chief health officer.

chemo and cancer may have been co-morbidities dont you think carl?
died with covid, not from it .
hardly a jailable offence
get some perspective man

Looks like I might have been wrong earlier today.

Definitely a toss up between that post and this one.

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Re: Australia and NZ numbers for today:
Reply #1700 - Jan 25^th, 2023 at 4:40pm

Carl D wrote on Jan 25^th, 2023 at 4:29pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 25^th, 2023 at 4:22pm:

dr gerrard is a fine chief health officer.

chemo and cancer may have been co-morbidities dont you think carl?
died with covid, not from it .
hardly a jailable offence
get some perspective man

Looks like I might have been wrong earlier today.

Definitely a toss up between that post and this one.

youre deluded if you think people should be jailed for that.

my wife says people are waiting 12 hrs to see a doc in casualty in logan.

imagine if we made nurses and doctors in hospitals go back to that PPE , they would be so busy dressing up and changing there gowns that no one would EVER be seen and we would blow out waiting times so much people would die.

add to that many many staff cannot bear N95 masks and took a lot of sick leave during our days of covid mania.
many left.

if anyone deserves prison it is the covid kooks who demolished nurse morale and have led to incredible shortages of staff.

and everyone got covid anyway.
all that PPE made not a scrap of difference in the end, omicron got through it all.

so what are you suggesting carl.

this person getting covid is nobodies fault and to suggest someone in health care should do prison time because a patient got covid borders on the insane and is certainly dispicable.

i might show that one to my wife.
maybe she should be jailed for showing up every day to look after the entitled patients who think immortality is their birth right Angry

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Re: Australia and NZ numbers for today:
Reply #1701 - Jan 25^th, 2023 at 5:03pm

So, you're fine with people going into hospital and catching Covid, are you?

And with cancer patients catching Covid during their treatment and dying shortly afterwards as a result when they could have had many more years of life left if their treatments are successful?

Doesn't surprise me, actually.

And, once again, your hero Dr. Gerrard still doesn't have a clue what he's doing or what he's talking about.

https://twitter.com/colinkinner/status/1557257474235076608

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A compilation of Queensland CHO Dr John Gerrard’s greatest hits:
🦠 COVID is Mild
🦠 Wall of Immunity
🦠 Kids Don’t Get Sick
🦠 Waves Getting Milder
🦠 Endemic Any Day Now
and the all-time favourite:
🦠 It’s Inevitable and Necessary

WRONG on all counts.

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Re: Australia and NZ numbers for today:
Reply #1702 - Jan 25^th, 2023 at 6:19pm

Carl D wrote on Jan 25^th, 2023 at 5:03pm:

So, you're fine with people going into hospital and catching Covid, are you?

And with cancer patients catching Covid during their treatment and dying shortly afterwards as a result when they could have had many more years of life left if their treatments are successful?

Doesn't surprise me, actually.

And, once again, your hero Dr. Gerrard still doesn't have a clue what he's doing or what he's talking about.

https://twitter.com/colinkinner/status/1557257474235076608

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A compilation of Queensland CHO Dr John Gerrard’s greatest hits:
🦠 COVID is Mild
🦠 Wall of Immunity
🦠 Kids Don’t Get Sick
🦠 Waves Getting Milder
🦠 Endemic Any Day Now
and the all-time favourite:
🦠 It’s Inevitable and Necessary

WRONG on all counts.

Roll Eyes

people can take personal responsibility for whether they wish to go to hospital and possibly catch covid.

there are 2 wards currently closed at logan due to a vancomycin resistant staph outbreak.

they cant even keep staph at bay. a germ spread by direct skin to skin contact.

there is not a chance in hell they van keep covid at bay.

and my 48 kg wife does not need to be wearing hot sticky plastic gowns and gloves and a suffocating N95 mask whilst she spends 30 minutes in a hot , non airconditioned bathroom giving a 160 kg tub of lard, a shower ,especially when that 160 kg tub of lard is only 50 years old and is on the DSP for diabetes and has a bunch of relatives sitting around on their fat asses telling my wife, so and so would like his shower now.
chop chop.

you tools will have no staff in public hospitals soon.
then the age of entitlement will really be over .

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Re: Australia and NZ numbers for today:
Reply #1703 - Jan 25^th, 2023 at 6:30pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 25^th, 2023 at 6:19pm:

people can take personal responsibility for whether they wish to go to hospital and possibly catch covid.

Or possibly just die quietly at home instead?

What happens to a person who, for example, is unconscious after a serious car accident?

Are they supposed to carry a signed card with them which says something like "I wish to use personal responsibility and not be taken to hospital in the event I'm unconscious after an accident - just leave me where I am or take me home (see address on other side of card) and let me die in peace"?

I can't believe even you could suggest something like that.

I really need one of these for my computer desk...

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Re: Australia and NZ numbers for today:
Reply #1704 - Jan 25^th, 2023 at 10:26pm

Carl D wrote on Jan 25^th, 2023 at 5:03pm:

So, you're fine with people going into hospital and catching Covid, are you?

And with cancer patients catching Covid during their treatment and dying shortly afterwards as a result when they could have had many more years of life left if their treatments are successful?

Doesn't surprise me, actually.

And, once again, your hero Dr. Gerrard still doesn't have a clue what he's doing or what he's talking about.

https://twitter.com/colinkinner/status/1557257474235076608

Quote:

A compilation of Queensland CHO Dr John Gerrard’s greatest hits:
🦠 COVID is Mild
🦠 Wall of Immunity
🦠 Kids Don’t Get Sick
🦠 Waves Getting Milder
🦠 Endemic Any Day Now
and the all-time favourite:
🦠 It’s Inevitable and Necessary

WRONG on all counts.

Roll Eyes

Is Dr. Gerrard's greatest hits wrong because they are scientifically inaccurate? Or, are they inaccurate because you disagree with them?

Over 80% of all Covid-19 victims, have reported their symptoms as between NONE to MILD. In fact over 20% of Covid-19 victims are asymptomatic throughout the entire infection. And, considering that over 99% of Covid victims survive, I would have thought his statement would be an easy given.

A wall of immunity(herd immunity, population immunity) is scientifically valid. And, have keep the human race from becoming extinct! As more and more people become infected, and more and more people survive and develop immunity, there will be less and less people for the virus to infect. So YES, a "wall of immunity". You do understand how viruses are transmitted, right?

Each "so-called" wave of each variation of this virus, HAS BEEN MILDER, and LESS LETHAL! That is how evolution works! As this virus mutates, its mutations are generally milder than its original. Like SARS-CoV-2 is milder than the original SARS virus. Right?

Obviously, young kids DO get sick from viruses. But since their young immune system houses almost 3 times the number of circulating innate low-affinity broad-spectrum antibodies, their infection is much less likely to become a life-threatening illness.

The rest are just his personal opinions. Which he and you are entitle to.

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Reply #1705 - Jan 26^th, 2023 at 5:36am

Carl D wrote on Jan 25^th, 2023 at 6:30pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 25^th, 2023 at 6:19pm:

people can take personal responsibility for whether they wish to go to hospital and possibly catch covid.

Or possibly just die quietly at home instead?

What happens to a person who, for example, is unconscious after a serious car accident?

Are they supposed to carry a signed card with them which says something like "I wish to use personal responsibility and not be taken to hospital in the event I'm unconscious after an accident - just leave me where I am or take me home (see address on other side of card) and let me die in peace"?

I can't believe even you could suggest something like that.

I really need one of these for my computer desk...

https://i.imgur.com/R8La9xi.gif

hospitals were designed to deal with car accidents, broken bones and appendicx operations and heart attacks, but thats not what they are being used for now

on my wifes ward at the moment ( a general medical ward) there are 20 patients

most are morbidly obese and incontinent and cannot be looked after by their relatives.
they are 'awaiting placement" in nursing homes , but they dont want to go to nursing homes, so they go home for a week and then the family call an ambulance and they roll back up to casualty.
many have diabetes and infected leg ulcers
in hospital they are given extremely expensive , last line of defence , piptazipine and it doesnt work because they have demolished their health already.
they spread their resitant germs through cas and the hospital and nurses spend hours putting on ppe to try to do their dressings.

and for lunch they are given chips and ice cream and cake and biscuits for morning and afternoon tea becasue it is deemed discriminatory to not offer a diet they "like"

as a result your good doctors and nurses are abndoning public hospitals in droves.

the state health department then scour the world and import contracted doctors from pakistan to fill the gaps.

many have zero understanding of the australian health system or the australian disease burden.

public hospitals are now , probably doing as much harm as good and are really turning into nursing homes but with all the added technology and expense.

there is only one solution.

people need to take personal responsibility for their health from a young age and eat good food, exercise and stay away .

this, of course, will never happen

enjoy your ambulance ramping and blown out waiting lists Cry

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Carl D Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10937 Rivervale, Perth Gender:	Re: Australia and NZ numbers for today: Reply #1706 - Jan 27^th, 2023 at 10:24am Wow. Just Wow!! https://covidlive.com.au/ 2 States... 416 deaths. Victoria actually had 149 deaths reported this week. The additional 173 deaths are "historic" from early 2021 to mid 2022 (apparently). Other States still to report.
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Reply #1707 - Jan 27^th, 2023 at 3:27pm

504
deaths with WA still to report.

https://covidlive.com.au/

I notice WA has been getting later and later with their weekly reports lately and Queensland Health have stopped posting them on their Twitter account for the past few weeks.

Doesn't make all the deaths 'disappear' though.

I notice aquascoot is speechless today... maybe 500 deaths is also the 'magic number' to finally break the pollies' silence (but I doubt it).

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Reply #1708 - Jan 27^th, 2023 at 3:43pm

not at all speechless

in fact, something very strange is going on

record excess deaths in nearly every western country

in the UK, an extra 3000 deaths PER WEEK.

now, this does not seem to be covid infections as hospitalisations for covid are dropping quite a lot.

so is it a long term effect of covid or a long term effect of the vaccine?

we dont know and no one seems to be intersted in finding out.

but if you look at the stats, they are crystal clear.

more people are dying then should be AND one would have expected after alpha and delta took out all the vulnerable people, we should have several years of lower death rates

3000 extra a week in the UK alone.

clearly carl i am as interested as you to find out what is going on and i am baffled as to why the media and politicians are totally silent on this

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Re: Australia and NZ numbers for today:
Reply #1709 - Jan 27^th, 2023 at 5:35pm

540
deaths for the week after WA finally reported in.

https://covidlive.com.au/

Even if you subtract the extra "historical" deaths added for Victoria this week and use 149 instead of 322 that's still an Australian total of 367
deaths.

If this is summer then I dread to think of what our upcoming winter is going to be like.

Governments are trying to make us all believe that "Covid is seasonal" (by talking about extra Covid vaccinations becoming available for winter, just like the flu) but the only thing seasonal about Covid is that it thrives (and kills) in ALL FOUR SEASONS.

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