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Re: Define the word “woman.”
Reply #1125 - Jun 22^nd, 2022 at 11:41am

Frank wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2022 at 11:37am:

mothra wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2022 at 11:25am:

Frank wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2022 at 11:16am:

mothra wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2022 at 11:13am:

Frank wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2022 at 9:36am:

mothra wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2022 at 8:50am:

Frank wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2022 at 8:23am:

What is a woman?

"What is it like to be a woman?" is a better question. Why?

Women's experience of being women is different to a man's experience of perceiving women as they are and then imagining himself what it would be like for him if he were a woman.

The former experience is authentic, organic and immediate while the latter is esentially and always inauthentic, derivative, full of misconstrued and misunderstood 'as ifs", of male perceptions of what it is like to be woman.

Says the man adamant about what a woman is.

Oh. The irony.

Seriously, you can't make this stuff up.

I can see you didnt understand any of it.

Do you think your idea of what it is like to be a man is the same as a man's idea of what it is like to be a man, given the obvious difference between a woman's perception and a man's.

Don't tell me you do not see the obvious.

And clearly you have just demonstrated that you have no idea at all what Trans even is.

Rail on in your ignorance, old man. For all of it's futility.

Do you think your idea of what it is like to be a man is the same as a man's idea of what it is like to be a man, given the obvious difference between a woman's perception and a man's?

I think my idea of what it's like to be a man is as nebulous as yours.

For example, i'm very empathetic to my male friends, my son and my husband, my father and uncles. None of which are anything like you. So i think i've a better idea of what being a man of worth is than you.

Does that count?

So trans women are men, not real women like you? Or are they real women like you and your mum? Would your son, husband etc regard them as real women like they regard you and your mum, cock no object?

Really??

What diseased, decaying matter do you use for a mind?

How did you get that from what i said?

Something seriously happened to you.

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Re: Define the word “woman.”
Reply #1126 - Jun 22^nd, 2022 at 11:43am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2022 at 11:38am:

So now mothra knows all about men who cannot understand what a woman thinks and how, and now despite the former broad comment on 'knowing how a woman feels' Lefty says that not all women are the same...

Well - who'd 've thunk that?

So how does Lefty KNOW?

Like mothra I'd consider myself a fair judge of what women are.. same as her with men ... by the same standard!!

Yep. Still drunk from last night.

Admittedly, the sober version isn't much more impressive.

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Re: Define the word “woman.”
Reply #1127 - Jun 22^nd, 2022 at 11:43am

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2022 at 11:39am:

Frank wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2022 at 11:37am:

So trans women are men, not real women like you? Or are they real women like you and your mum? Would your son, husband etc regard them as real women like they regard you and your mum, cock no object?

Really??

I would suggest that is almost certainly true. Decent people tend to be in famiies of decent people. If I am not going to bugger a woman, why do I care if she has a cock?

Whys is the discussion now turning to the relative decency of people - a purely subjective interpretation at best?

Is this - all animals are decent, but some are more decent than others?

What has buggaring to do with it? The issue is - are you happy to sleep with a woman with a cock?

How do you propose to get your ten licks in every week? Huh

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Re: Define the word “woman.”
Reply #1128 - Jun 22^nd, 2022 at 11:45am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2022 at 11:43am:

Whys is the discussion now turning to the relative decency of people - a purely subjective interpretation at best?

Is this - all animals are decent, but some are more decent than others?

What has buggaring to do with it? The issue is - are you happy to sleep with a woman with a cock?

How do you propose to get your ten licks in every week? Huh

People have families that share their values. Not killing trans kids is clearly not decent to you, and that's subjective, I agree.

smacking forums keep replacing the word fck.

There's two things here. I like vagina, I would not date a woman with a cock. Any more than I'd date a right wing woman, I am not required to date all women. But it's still a woman I can know and interact with in general

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Re: Define the word “woman.”
Reply #1129 - Jun 22^nd, 2022 at 11:46am

mothra wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2022 at 11:41am:

What diseased, decaying matter do you use for a mind?

How did you get that from what i said?

Something seriously happened to you.

cornered - so reverting to true form again.

You and Lefty are so similar..... when in doubt, attack the other person.... when cornered, strike out and hope to score a hit....

If we could just make Monty move faster from the north - we could totally surround and destroy both the Lefty-SS and mothra-SS divisions in one hit!

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Re: Define the word “woman.”
Reply #1130 - Jun 22^nd, 2022 at 11:48am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2022 at 11:46am:

cornered - so reverting to true form again.

You and Lefty are so similar..... when in doubt, attack the other person.... when cornered, strike out and hope to score a hit....

If we could just make Monty move faster from the north - we could totally surround and destroy both the Lefty-SS and mothra-SS divisions in one hit!

It's funny because you are doing what you accuse others of. When I ask a simple clear question, that's EXACTLY what you do in response. Run and insult.

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Re: Define the word “woman.”
Reply #1131 - Jun 22^nd, 2022 at 11:50am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2022 at 11:46am:

mothra wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2022 at 11:41am:

What diseased, decaying matter do you use for a mind?

How did you get that from what i said?

Something seriously happened to you.

cornered - so reverting to true form again.

You and Lefty are so similar..... when in doubt, attack the other person.... when cornered, strike out and hope to score a hit....

If we could just make Monty move faster from the north - we could totally surround and destroy both the Lefty-SS and mothra-SS divisions in one hit!

That's you MO, old man. Every second post of yours since Future joined has been about him,.'

Much like you rant about me when i'm not even here.

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Re: Define the word “woman.”
Reply #1132 - Jun 22^nd, 2022 at 11:55am

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2022 at 11:38am:

Gender identity is still scientific fact. Not least, you have literally no other explanation for why some people with a penis know they are women

Bollocks. Gender is not a scientific category, it's a linguistic one. Every deviation from the male/female binary is a deviation and is treated as a deviation, whether by medical or psychiatric intervention, or both. You CANNOT transition without some radical outside intervention. You cannot transition naturally because it is essentially and fundamentally unnatural.

Gender dysphoria is a psychiatric term indicating a mental maladjustment to reality. The mind, perception, meaning, behaviour - psychiatry's subject matters - are not biological or chemical things even if the brain and the body (medicine's subject matters) are. What transition means is physical intervention and alteration of the body. But you cannot turn Yin into Yang no matter how many times you operate.

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Re: Define the word “woman.”
Reply #1133 - Jun 22^nd, 2022 at 11:57am

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2022 at 11:48am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2022 at 11:46am:

cornered - so reverting to true form again.

You and Lefty are so similar..... when in doubt, attack the other person.... when cornered, strike out and hope to score a hit....

If we could just make Monty move faster from the north - we could totally surround and destroy both the Lefty-SS and mothra-SS divisions in one hit!

It's funny because you are doing what you accuse others of. When I ask a simple clear question, that's EXACTLY what you do in response. Run and insult.

Liar...... you are so deluded....

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Re: Define the word “woman.”
Reply #1134 - Jun 22^nd, 2022 at 11:58am

Frank wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2022 at 11:55am:

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2022 at 11:38am:

Gender identity is still scientific fact. Not least, you have literally no other explanation for why some people with a penis know they are women

Bollocks. Gender is not a scientific category, it's a linguistic one. Every deviation from the male/female binary is a deviation and is treated as a deviation, whether by medical or psychiatric intervention, or both. You CANNOT transition without some radical outside intervention. You cannot transition naturally because it is essentially and fundamentally unnatural.

Gender dysphoria is a psychiatric term indicating a mental maladjustment to reality. The mind, perception, meaning, behaviour - psychiatry's subject matters - are not biological or chemical things even if the brain and the body (medicine's subject matters) are. What transition means is physical intervention and alteration of the body. But you cannot turn Yin into Yang no matter how many times you operate.

Gender dsyphoria is still not being trans, they are still different. I've posted this at least 50 times and no right wing maggot has ever responded to it.

Most trans people don't have gender surgery. Another fact I keep reminding you of

"You cannot transition naturally because it is essentially and fundamentally unnatural. "

this is the core of your deep sexual insecurity. Keep it to yourself

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Re: Define the word “woman.”
Reply #1136 - Jun 22^nd, 2022 at 12:00pm

mothra wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2022 at 11:50am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2022 at 11:46am:

mothra wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2022 at 11:41am:

What diseased, decaying matter do you use for a mind?

How did you get that from what i said?

Something seriously happened to you.

cornered - so reverting to true form again.

You and Lefty are so similar..... when in doubt, attack the other person.... when cornered, strike out and hope to score a hit....

If we could just make Monty move faster from the north - we could totally surround and destroy both the Lefty-SS and mothra-SS divisions in one hit!

That's you MO, old man. Every second post of yours since Future joined has been about him,.'

Much like you rant about me when i'm not even here.

**laughs** I might mention you every couple of days or so as a prime source of Lefty style 'debating'.... utter nonsense, of course... any debating is all in your mind...

The only reason posts are about Lefty's kind is that he constantly posts about those who respond and attacks them ... got that?

Just shooting him down when he comes in, is not the same as getting after him... if he'd shut up for five minutes nobody would bother...

Now then - I see the trannies are not going to compete with women in swimming .. o, well ... them's the breaks based on gender differences....

Like playing chess with two pigeons all at once....

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Re: Define the word “woman.”
Reply #1137 - Jun 22^nd, 2022 at 12:02pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2022 at 12:00pm:

**laughs** I might mention you every couple of days or so as a prime source of Lefty style 'debating'.... utter nonsense, of course... any debating is all in your mind...

The only reason posts are about Lefty's kind is that he constantly posts about those who respond and attacks them ... got that?

Just shooting him down when he comes in, is not the same as getting after him... if he'd shut up for five minutes nobody would bother...

Now then - I see the trannies are not going to compete with women in swimming .. o, well ... them's the breaks based on gender differences....

Like playing chess with two pigeons all at once....

Debates are all in my mind because no one ever debates me. LOL!!!!

Again, the decision to stop trans women swimming will be reversed. Society is overall getting better but sometimes the vocal minority win, before ultimately losing

How often have you watched Womens swimming? That's not why you care, is it?

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Re: Define the word “woman.”
Reply #1138 - Jun 22^nd, 2022 at 12:03pm

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2022 at 11:58am:

Frank wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2022 at 11:55am:

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2022 at 11:38am:

Gender identity is still scientific fact. Not least, you have literally no other explanation for why some people with a penis know they are women

Bollocks. Gender is not a scientific category, it's a linguistic one. Every deviation from the male/female binary is a deviation and is treated as a deviation, whether by medical or psychiatric intervention, or both. You CANNOT transition without some radical outside intervention. You cannot transition naturally because it is essentially and fundamentally unnatural.

Gender dysphoria is a psychiatric term indicating a mental maladjustment to reality. The mind, perception, meaning, behaviour - psychiatry's subject matters - are not biological or chemical things even if the brain and the body (medicine's subject matters) are. What transition means is physical intervention and alteration of the body. But you cannot turn Yin into Yang no matter how many times you operate.

Gender dsyphoria is still not being trans, they are still different.

that's the theory, anyway

I've posted this at least 50 times and no right wing maggot

person

has ever responded to it.

nothing to respond to - it's all theory.

Most trans people don't have gender surgery.

then how are they trans if they are not transitioning to what they imagine themselves to be?

Another fact

verbal twist - not a fact - a fact is proven

I keep reminding you of

"You cannot transition naturally because it is essentially and fundamentally unnatural. "

simple reality

this is the core of your deep sexual insecurity. Keep it to yourself

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Let me correct this for you....

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Re: Define the word “woman.”
Reply #1139 - Jun 22^nd, 2022 at 12:10pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2022 at 12:03pm:

Gender dsyphoria is still not being trans, they are still different.

that's the theory, anyway

I've posted this at least 50 times and no right wing maggot

person

has ever responded to it.

nothing to respond to - it's all theory.

Most trans people don't have gender surgery.

then how are they trans if they are not transitioning to what they imagine themselves to be?

Another fact

verbal twist - not a fact - a fact is proven

I keep reminding you of

"You cannot transition naturally because it is essentially and fundamentally unnatural. "

simple reality

this is the core of your deep sexual insecurity. Keep it to yourself

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It's the theory of experts. Gender dysphoria is in DSM5 and is defined. Being trans is emphatically not in DSM5.

people are naturally born trans. Science confirms this

Be careful, you might end up debating me....

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