Marla wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2022 at 6:46am:

An American in a foreign politics forum.

Sad.

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2022 at 1:10am:

Yes, the golden rule. Found in all literate cultures throughout recorded history.

And 'All you need is love'.

If, in any given year, we all put a bean in a collective jar whenever we broke that rule, we'd run out of beans and jars in a year.

Proposing stratospherically noble ideals, then reaching them, are why we imagine the divine.

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2022 at 1:25am:


Wrong on all counts, because it IS the the delusion of "sovereign rights"  - over collective well-being - that is preventing the establishment of international law; and all delusions eventually die with those subject to them. 

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Depends on how long your ideology - responsible for the endless wars since the beginning of time -  is the dominant factor in international affairs. 

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Indeed words are cheap: Khunt wants me to proclaim Putin is responsible for the Ukraine war, without any ifs or buts (eg my assertion that Putin's invasion is a continuation of the Cold War).

But even if I do proclaim it, the war will continue  on unabated, until one or both sides are ruined,  being just another war in the line of endless wars...with the complication we  are now in the age of MAD.

Enquiring mind wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2022 at 2:05am:


I'm not defending the invasion. Many posts back I said no-one thought Putin would invade. But I insist on  pointing out the invasion is a continuation of the Cold War, a battle between ideologies.

(Now the flag bearer for collectivism is China, which will prove a much stronger opponent to individualism than the USSR).   

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Explained and refuted above. Universal well-being and security versus global domination by a self-interested  super power. 

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America number whatever -  it doesn't matter; the point is self-interested US global hegemony (or "America First") is impermissible in international  law.

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Refuted above. China invading another country is impermissible in international law.

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No, they don't exist in nature, and they are certainly impermissible in international law.

Enquiring mind wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2022 at 11:26am:

Presuming you’re not an automated propaganda bot you need to understand your ideas and language do no more than manage to make a fool of yourself.
As to World Socialism with Chinese characteristics how do you explain the staggering wealth of senior members of the CCP ‘elite’? Have you by some miracle attended one of the many up-market nightclubs in Peking whose clientele are the children of most of your so called great leaders?

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2022 at 12:06pm:

You missed my point.

Stratospherically noble ideals cannot be realised, which is why we imagine gods who do.

The Greeks formalised it with the goddess Nemesis who delivered retribution to those who succumb to hubris before the gods. Hubris includes attempting to act out ideals as if you're a god.

The CCP does not reflect even an attempt at realising the golden rule. Its behaviour with debt-trapping nations and its criminal negligence with the pandemic proves that.

Meanwhile, while The west is drowning in its stupidity and hatred towards Russia, Algeria and China have signed an agreement
worth 7 billion dollars for the production of fertilizers on the territory of Algeria. The amount will be 5.4 million tons of fertilizers per year.

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2022 at 12:47pm:

Are you expecting, anytime soon, the CCP to rescue Sri Lanka's failing economy by forgiving its debt?

Grounding flights from Wuhan once the CCP was convinced there was a serious outbreak there, but allowing international flights out of Wuhan, then bleating racism when other nations banned flights from China, is an example of CCP cynicism towards other nations. The CCP's interpretation of the golden rule at the start of the pandemic: 'do unto others that which happened to you'.