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Re: Ukraine, Russia, Putin – So how does it all end?
Reply #735 - May 2^nd, 2022 at 6:30pm

athos wrote on May 2^nd, 2022 at 6:26pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on May 2^nd, 2022 at 5:57pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 2^nd, 2022 at 1:51pm:

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A provincial senior in the CCP is a position of immense privilege in terms of hoarding wealth by taking cuts from the likes of infrastructure and development projects, from the provincial level down to street vendors. It's a perversion of the Chinese tradition of guanxi.

You are talking about corruption in governance; how's the ICAC legislation progressing?

So you admit that the CCP needs to be held to account by an independent investigative body unencumbered by the CCP.

Once again, stick to the topic and stop spamming on this forum.
This is the last warning.
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Re: Ukraine, Russia, Putin – So how does it all end?
Reply #736 - May 2^nd, 2022 at 6:32pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on May 2^nd, 2022 at 6:30pm:

athos wrote on May 2^nd, 2022 at 6:26pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on May 2^nd, 2022 at 5:57pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 2^nd, 2022 at 1:51pm:

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A provincial senior in the CCP is a position of immense privilege in terms of hoarding wealth by taking cuts from the likes of infrastructure and development projects, from the provincial level down to street vendors. It's a perversion of the Chinese tradition of guanxi.

You are talking about corruption in governance; how's the ICAC legislation progressing?

So you admit that the CCP needs to be held to account by an independent investigative body unencumbered by the CCP.

Once again, stick to the topic and stop spamming on this forum.
This is the last warning.
Thank you

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Re: Ukraine, Russia, Putin – So how does it all end?
Reply #737 - May 2^nd, 2022 at 6:35pm

athos wrote on May 2^nd, 2022 at 6:29pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on May 2^nd, 2022 at 6:00pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 2^nd, 2022 at 1:51pm:

My interest is in promoting a friendly competition between different systems of government, rather than the disgusting, paranoid "we have to prepare for war" garbage coming out of Dutton's pygmy, all-reptilian brain...

You're a snivelling nobody who thinks his prostitution to the CCP will lead to self-respect.

Please respect this forum, stick to the topic and stop spamming.
What does it have to do prostitution, CCP and China with this thread????

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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17122 Gender:	Re: Ukraine, Russia, Putin – So how does it all end? Reply #738 - May 2^nd, 2022 at 6:37pm Putin is suspected of having Parkinson's disease and is also due for upcoming cancer surgery. In line with Hitler's failing health who ordered that not a stone upon a stone would be left for the allies to inherit, so with Putin's Russia.
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Re: Ukraine, Russia, Putin – So how does it all end?
Reply #739 - May 2^nd, 2022 at 6:40pm

athos wrote on May 2^nd, 2022 at 6:21pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on May 2^nd, 2022 at 5:52pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 2^nd, 2022 at 1:37pm:

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No one rises through the ranks of the CCP except through bribery and corruption.

An ideological assertion. Ignore.

You should watch a few videos from Matt Tye (laowhy86) and Winston Sterzel (Serpentza).

I know the wumao are not permitted to mention their names in posts, but you're an independent free thinker, aren't you(??)

They spent 10 years and 14 years respectively in China, married Chinese women and wanted to live their lives in China.

You might learn something from them your pimps won't let you.

Do not send spam and stick to the topic or open a new thread. The topic is not about the China and CCP, but about the war in Ukraine.
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Ah, so Party decree that dissenting view always spam and not genuine interview/video.. ha, ha - no wondah you not understann ou'side China!! Numbah 10!!

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Re: Ukraine, Russia, Putin – So how does it all end?
Reply #740 - May 2^nd, 2022 at 6:42pm

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 2^nd, 2022 at 6:40pm:

athos wrote on May 2^nd, 2022 at 6:21pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on May 2^nd, 2022 at 5:52pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 2^nd, 2022 at 1:37pm:

Quote:

No one rises through the ranks of the CCP except through bribery and corruption.

An ideological assertion. Ignore.

You should watch a few videos from Matt Tye (laowhy86) and Winston Sterzel (Serpentza).

I know the wumao are not permitted to mention their names in posts, but you're an independent free thinker, aren't you(??)

They spent 10 years and 14 years respectively in China, married Chinese women and wanted to live their lives in China.

You might learn something from them your pimps won't let you.

Do not send spam and stick to the topic or open a new thread. The topic is not about the China and CCP, but about the war in Ukraine.
Thank you

Ah, so Party decree that dissenting view always spam and not genuine interview/video.. ha, ha - no wondah you not understann ou'side China!! Numbah 10!!

The wumao are forbidden from mentioning the names of Matt Tye (laowhy86) and Winston Sterzel (Serpentza), hence the knee-jerk.

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Jake Winker Frogen Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1503 Perth WA Gender:	Re: Ukraine, Russia, Putin – So how does it all end? Reply #741 - May 2^nd, 2022 at 6:59pm If I was writing this history it ends with Putin's assassination. But I am not writing it, and even after committing the worst atrocities since WWII he will probably die in a mansion and then be mummified and placed next to Stalin. Russians admire animal brutality.
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Jake Winker Frogen Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1503 Perth WA Gender:	Re: Ukraine, Russia, Putin – So how does it all end? Reply #742 - May 2^nd, 2022 at 7:00pm They admire it because they have been subjects of it their entire history. Old habits and all that.
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Re: Ukraine, Russia, Putin – So how does it all end?
Reply #743 - May 2^nd, 2022 at 7:01pm

Jake Winker Frogen wrote on May 2^nd, 2022 at 6:59pm:

If I was writing this history it ends with Putin's assassination.

But I am not writing it, and even after committing the worst atrocities since WWII he will probably die in a mansion and then be mummified and placed next to Stalin.

Russians admire animal brutality.

The question would be: after Putin, who comes next? Lavrov or Navalny?

But, as Bismarck said, 'Do not trust Russians. They don't even trust themselves'.

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Re: Ukraine, Russia, Putin – So how does it all end?
Reply #744 - May 2^nd, 2022 at 7:24pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on May 2^nd, 2022 at 7:01pm:

Jake Winker Frogen wrote on May 2^nd, 2022 at 6:59pm:

If I was writing this history it ends with Putin's assassination.

But I am not writing it, and even after committing the worst atrocities since WWII he will probably die in a mansion and then be mummified and placed next to Stalin.

Russians admire animal brutality.

The question would be: after Putin, who comes next? Lavrov or Navalny?

But, as Bismarck said, 'Do not trust Russians. They don't even trust themselves'.

Indeed.

But Putin crossed the line of 21 century sanity.

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Re: Ukraine, Russia, Putin – So how does it all end?
Reply #745 - May 2^nd, 2022 at 7:30pm

Putin's General Gerasimov has been wounded in Ukraine.

Gerasimov was Putin's last drawcard to take command of Putin's war and was the highest value target for the Ukrainian armed services.

If Gerasimov is off the field, the Russian armed services and the war is over for Putin.

Next step, reparations.

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Re: Ukraine, Russia, Putin – So how does it all end?
Reply #746 - May 2^nd, 2022 at 7:43pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on May 2^nd, 2022 at 7:30pm:

Putin's General Gerasimov has been wounded in Ukraine.

Gerasimov was Putin's last drawcard to take command of Putin's war and was the highest value target for the Ukrainian armed services.

If Gerasimov is off the field, the Russian armed services and the war is over for Putin.

Next step, reparations.

Turns out it might be a flesh wound.

Better luck next time.

Slava Ukraini!

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Re: Ukraine, Russia, Putin – So how does it all end?
Reply #747 - May 3^rd, 2022 at 12:26pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 28^th, 2022 at 12:31pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 28^th, 2022 at 10:34am:

How many Chomskys are there in the US compared to the likes of you? 1 in ten million?

It's clear what Chomsky's stance on (non-existent) international law is.

Noam Chomsky:

Well, there is, fortunately, one statesman in the United States and Europe, a high political figure, who has made a very sensible statement about how you can solve the crisis. Namely, by facilitating negotiations instead of undermining them and moving toward establishing some kind of accommodation in Europe, in which there are no military alliances, but just mutual accommodation.

He didn’t say it, but it was something like George H.W. Bush proposed in the early-90s after the collapse of the Soviet Union. Proposed what they called a partnership for peace, which would be open for Europeans generally, Eurasians as well, it wouldn’t eliminate NATO, but he would live to the promise that NATO would not expand to the east. Firm promise to Gorbachev. Keep to that. Allow NATO there, but kind of deemphasize it so other countries could join, including Russia, for that matter, and move toward a Eurasia with no military alliances.

I think DeGaul had a similar vision. Emmanuel Macron, in his initiatives trying to contact Putin, suggested something similar. So, going back to the one Western statesman, he didn’t mention all of this, but he suggested something similar. Move towards negotiations and diplomacy instead of escalating the war. Try to see if we can bring about accommodation, which would be roughly along these lines.

His name is Donald J. Trump.

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1520751923355398144

Trump - legend.

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: Ukraine, Russia, Putin – So how does it all end? Reply #748 - May 3^rd, 2022 at 12:35pm I am sure the Ukraine snipers will get a second chance—nothing happens in the russian armed forces unless a high ranking officer goes and makes it happen. Especially so with the russian army so demoralised.
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athos Gold Member Offline Re-educate barbarians Posts: 6421 Hong Kong Gender:	Re: Ukraine, Russia, Putin – So how does it all end? Reply #749 - May 3^rd, 2022 at 4:50pm Azov took several hundred civilians hostage, while the American Khazarian military-industrial complex took the entire population of America hostage.
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