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Reply #465 - Apr 13^th, 2022 at 5:28pm

athos wrote on Apr 13^th, 2022 at 12:03pm:

More than 1,000 Ukrainian Marines voluntarily surrendered in Mariupol

12.04.2022 23:49

The most massive surrender since the beginning of hostilities - more than 1,000 Marines of the Ukrainian Armed Forces voluntarily surrendered in Mariupol.

According to war correspondent Sladkov, about 400 wounded and unable to move on their own, as well as more than 800 healthy Ukrainian soldiers voluntarily surrendered in Mariupol.

The Ukrainian military was defending one of the two main pockets of resistance, the Illich plant.

It is very difficult to distinguish such a thing from the surrender of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in Mariupol.

That's in Russian, Athos. Do you have one in Chinese?

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Reply #466 - Apr 15^th, 2022 at 9:35am

In the CCP tradition of consistently making catastrophic mistakes, it seems it's contagious to those who stand too close to Xi Jinping.

Putin's 'Fifth Service' which he personally formed in the late 90s is largely responsible for the logistical collapse of Putin's war in Ukraine.

Sergei Beseda, Putin's Fifth Service chief has been sent to the notorious Lefortovo prison and 150 of its agents have been dismissed.

Turns out Beseda was stealing the money allocated to the service to cultivate and build pro-Russian partisan groups within Ukraine.

The reports Beseda was sending to the Kremlin was that the service had recruited underground Ukrainian pro-Russian resistance groups of sufficient strength to support a Russian invasion, likely expecting that Putin would never invade Ukraine.

Big mistake.

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Re: Ukraine, Russia, Putin – So how does it all end?
Reply #468 - Apr 15^th, 2022 at 10:51am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 15^th, 2022 at 9:35am:

In the CCP tradition of consistently making catastrophic mistakes, it seems it's contagious to those who stand too close to Xi Jinping.

Putin's 'Fifth Service' which he personally formed in the late 90s is largely responsible for the logistical collapse of Putin's war in Ukraine.

er....Putin was active long before an association with Xi....

Next, indeed.

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Reply #469 - Apr 15^th, 2022 at 1:23pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 15^th, 2022 at 10:51am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 15^th, 2022 at 9:35am:

In the CCP tradition of consistently making catastrophic mistakes, it seems it's contagious to those who stand too close to Xi Jinping.

Putin's 'Fifth Service' which he personally formed in the late 90s is largely responsible for the logistical collapse of Putin's war in Ukraine.

er....Putin was active long before an association with Xi....

Not when you factor in his so-called 'three incarnations'.

From Putin the democratic reformer (schmoozing the west), to Putin the kleptocrat (parallel to the CCP's kleptocratic height under the CCP's Jiang Zemin), to his current incarnation (coinciding with his personal relationship with Xi and the CCP): Putin the unhinged, totalitarian butcher.

Coincidence? я думаю нет!

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athos Gold Member Offline Re-educate barbarians Posts: 6421 Hong Kong Gender:	Re: Ukraine, Russia, Putin – So how does it all end? Reply #470 - Apr 15^th, 2022 at 6:42pm https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/flashback/fans-convinced-the-simpsons-p...
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Reply #472 - Apr 15^th, 2022 at 6:50pm

Enquiring mind wrote on Apr 13^th, 2022 at 5:28pm:

athos wrote on Apr 13^th, 2022 at 12:03pm:

More than 1,000 Ukrainian Marines voluntarily surrendered in Mariupol

12.04.2022 23:49

The most massive surrender since the beginning of hostilities - more than 1,000 Marines of the Ukrainian Armed Forces voluntarily surrendered in Mariupol.

According to war correspondent Sladkov, about 400 wounded and unable to move on their own, as well as more than 800 healthy Ukrainian soldiers voluntarily surrendered in Mariupol.

The Ukrainian military was defending one of the two main pockets of resistance, the Illich plant.

It is very difficult to distinguish such a thing from the surrender of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in Mariupol.

That's in Russian, Athos. Do you have one in Chinese?

You don't know Chinese.

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Reply #473 - Apr 15^th, 2022 at 10:13pm

https://www.infowars.com/posts/americans-are-in-charge-of-the-war-says-french-jo...

Americans Are “In Charge” of the War
Says French Journalist Who Returned From Ukraine

by Paul Joseph Watson
April 12th 2022, 6:18 am

A French journalist who returned from Ukraine after arriving with volunteer fighters told broadcaster CNews that Americans are directly “in charge” of the war on the ground.

The assertion was made by Le Figaro senior international correspondent Georges Malbrunot.

Malbrunot said he had accompanied French volunteer fighters, two of whom had previously fought against ISIS.

“I had the surprise, and so did they, to discover that to be able to enter the Ukrainian army, well it’s the Americans who are in charge,” said Malbrunot.

“And who is in charge? It’s the Americans, I saw it with my own eyes,” said Malbrunot, adding, “I thought I was with the international brigades, and I found myself facing the Pentagon.”

Malbrunot also mentioned America providing Ukraine with switchblade suicide drones, something highlighted by Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin in a tweet that revealed Ukrainian soldiers were being trained to use the devices in Biloxi, Mississippi.

Citing a French intelligence source, Malbrunot also tweeted that

British SAS units “have been present in Ukraine
since the beginning of the war,
as did the American Deltas.”

Russia is apparently well aware of the “secret war” being waged in Ukraine by foreign commandos who have been in the region since February.

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Enquiring mind Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 104847	Re: Ukraine, Russia, Putin – So how does it all end? Reply #474 - Apr 15^th, 2022 at 11:22pm Bobby, I don't know if Athos is allowed to view Infowars. I know I'm not. CENSORSHIP!
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Reply #475 - Apr 15^th, 2022 at 11:25pm

athos wrote on Apr 15^th, 2022 at 6:50pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Apr 13^th, 2022 at 5:28pm:

athos wrote on Apr 13^th, 2022 at 12:03pm:

More than 1,000 Ukrainian Marines voluntarily surrendered in Mariupol

12.04.2022 23:49

The most massive surrender since the beginning of hostilities - more than 1,000 Marines of the Ukrainian Armed Forces voluntarily surrendered in Mariupol.

According to war correspondent Sladkov, about 400 wounded and unable to move on their own, as well as more than 800 healthy Ukrainian soldiers voluntarily surrendered in Mariupol.

The Ukrainian military was defending one of the two main pockets of resistance, the Illich plant.

It is very difficult to distinguish such a thing from the surrender of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in Mariupol.

That's in Russian, Athos. Do you have one in Chinese?

You don't know Chinese.

I don't know much about art, dear, but I know what I like.

Besides, plenty of people have Chinese tattoos. They don't know what they mean either.

Do we really have to understand propaganda? Can't we just enjoy it for what it is?

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Reply #476 - Apr 15^th, 2022 at 11:32pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 15^th, 2022 at 10:13pm:

https://www.infowars.com/posts/americans-are-in-charge-of-the-war-says-french-jo...

Americans Are “In Charge” of the War
Says French Journalist Who Returned From Ukraine

by Paul Joseph Watson
April 12th 2022, 6:18 am

https://media.gab.com/system/preview_cards/images/024/869/244/original/14a95c7c7...

A French journalist who returned from Ukraine after arriving with volunteer fighters told broadcaster CNews that Americans are directly “in charge” of the war on the ground.

The assertion was made by Le Figaro senior international correspondent Georges Malbrunot.

Malbrunot said he had accompanied French volunteer fighters, two of whom had previously fought against ISIS.

“I had the surprise, and so did they, to discover that to be able to enter the Ukrainian army, well it’s the Americans who are in charge,” said Malbrunot.

“And who is in charge? It’s the Americans, I saw it with my own eyes,” said Malbrunot, adding, “I thought I was with the international brigades, and I found myself facing the Pentagon.”

Malbrunot also mentioned America providing Ukraine with switchblade suicide drones, something highlighted by Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin in a tweet that revealed Ukrainian soldiers were being trained to use the devices in Biloxi, Mississippi.

Citing a French intelligence source, Malbrunot also tweeted that

British SAS units “have been present in Ukraine
since the beginning of the war,
as did the American Deltas.”

Russia is apparently well aware of the “secret war” being waged in Ukraine by foreign commandos who have been in the region since February.

Those fighters are there as volunteers, Bobby. The US has fought hard to stay out of this war but I'm curious. Why would Infowars be alleging a US presence in Ukraine? They're no investigate news site, they're far-right propaganda.

Why would Alex Jones be parroting Russian propaganda? What could possibly be in it for him to try to trigger an escalation in this war?

What could possibly be in it for you?

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Reply #477 - Apr 16^th, 2022 at 10:46am

Bobby. wrote on Apr 15^th, 2022 at 10:13pm:

https://www.infowars.com/posts/americans-are-in-charge-of-the-war-says-french-jo...

Americans Are “In Charge” of the War
Says French Journalist Who Returned From Ukraine

by Paul Joseph Watson
April 12th 2022, 6:18 am

https://media.gab.com/system/preview_cards/images/024/869/244/original/14a95c7c7...

A French journalist who returned from Ukraine after arriving with volunteer fighters told broadcaster CNews that Americans are directly “in charge” of the war on the ground.

The assertion was made by Le Figaro senior international correspondent Georges Malbrunot.

Malbrunot said he had accompanied French volunteer fighters, two of whom had previously fought against ISIS.

“I had the surprise, and so did they, to discover that to be able to enter the Ukrainian army, well it’s the Americans who are in charge,” said Malbrunot.

“And who is in charge? It’s the Americans, I saw it with my own eyes,” said Malbrunot, adding, “I thought I was with the international brigades, and I found myself facing the Pentagon.”

Malbrunot also mentioned America providing Ukraine with switchblade suicide drones, something highlighted by Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin in a tweet that revealed Ukrainian soldiers were being trained to use the devices in Biloxi, Mississippi.

Citing a French intelligence source, Malbrunot also tweeted that

British SAS units “have been present in Ukraine
since the beginning of the war,
as did the American Deltas.”

Russia is apparently well aware of the “secret war” being waged in Ukraine by foreign commandos who have been in the region since February.

This is not a war between Russia and Ukraine, but between Russia and NATO (USA).
The Ukrainian army is just a weapon in the hands of NATO.

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: Ukraine, Russia, Putin – So how does it all end? Reply #478 - Apr 16^th, 2022 at 11:05am Garbage
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UnSubRocky Gold Member Offline In your damn fate Posts: 26627 Rockhampton Gender:	Re: Ukraine, Russia, Putin – So how does it all end? Reply #479 - Apr 16^th, 2022 at 1:43pm I understand that there are those that would probably roll their eyes at my statement. But, it seems that the Russian invasion was provoked by calls by Ukrainian separatists wanting to rejoin Russia. We might see a divided (smaller) Ukraine by the year's end.
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