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Re: Ukraine, Russia, Putin – So how does it all end?
Reply #195 - Mar 26^th, 2022 at 3:43pm

Frank wrote on Mar 26^th, 2022 at 11:57am:

Enquiring mind wrote on Mar 26^th, 2022 at 11:22am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 26^th, 2022 at 11:11am:

Enquiring mind wrote on Mar 26^th, 2022 at 2:06am:

- the old Putin-tried-joining-NATO ruse. Cunning.

You denying it? I accepted the sources relating to the US secretary of state's conversations with Putin after the demise of the USSR.

I most certainly am. Putin HIMSELF said he did not apply to join NATO. He said, and I quote, he "wasn't going to join a list of nothing countries".

Take it up with Dear Leader, dear.

Enjoy!

Invited to join NATO and applying to join NATO are not the same, as everi Paki schoolboy knows.

Ex-Nato head says Putin wanted to join alliance early on in his rule

Vladimir Putin wanted Russia to join Nato but did not want his country to have to go through the usual application process and stand in line “with a lot of countries that don’t matter”, according to a former secretary general of the transatlantic alliance.

George Robertson, a former Labour defence secretary who led Nato between 1999 and 2003, said Putin made it clear at their first meeting that he wanted Russia to be part of western Europe. “They wanted to be part of that secure, stable prosperous west that Russia was out of at the time,” he said.

The Labour peer recalled an early meeting with Putin, who became Russian president in 2000. “Putin said: ‘When are you going to invite us to join Nato?’ And [Robertson] said: ‘Well, we don’t invite people to join Nato, they apply to join Nato.’ And he said: ‘Well, we’re not standing in line with a lot of countries that don’t matter.’”

The account chimes with what Putin told the late David Frost in a BBC interview shortly before he was first inaugurated as Russian president more than 21 years ago. Putin told Frost he would not rule out joining Nato “if and when Russia’s views are taken into account as those of an equal partner”.

He told Frost it was hard for him to visualise Nato as an enemy. “Russia is part of the European culture. And I cannot imagine my own country in isolation from Europe and what we often call the civilised world.”

Good point, old boy, you're right. Putin wanted to join NATO.

He just didn't want to fill in all those boring forms, yes?

No, he really did, truly. He also didn't interfere in the 2016 US election.

He doesn't know who tried to poison Navalny.

And he has no plans to invade Ukraine, okay?

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Re: Ukraine, Russia, Putin – So how does it all end?
Reply #196 - Mar 26^th, 2022 at 3:46pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 26^th, 2022 at 3:39pm:

My latest war thoughts.

I hope the Ukrainian army doesn’t allow the Russians to leave
from around Kiev and escape to Belarus.
That would be letting war criminals get away.
They need to block the roads – cut off supplies of: ammunition, fuel and food.
They need to round them up and either kill them or capture them
for slave labour to rebuild Ukraine.
Those in charge should be put on trial and hanged in public for war crimes.
There needs to be some justice in this world.

Impossible, Bobby, ask Great.

You cant have justice until China takes over the UNSC.

Remember, the Soviets' founding principle was that all people should have a right to prosperity, no?

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Re: Ukraine, Russia, Putin – So how does it all end?
Reply #197 - Mar 26^th, 2022 at 3:48pm

Enquiring mind wrote on Mar 26^th, 2022 at 3:46pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 26^th, 2022 at 3:39pm:

My latest war thoughts.

I hope the Ukrainian army doesn’t allow the Russians to leave
from around Kiev and escape to Belarus.
That would be letting war criminals get away.
They need to block the roads – cut off supplies of: ammunition, fuel and food.
They need to round them up and either kill them or capture them
for slave labour to rebuild Ukraine.
Those in charge should be put on trial and hanged in public for war crimes.
There needs to be some justice in this world.

Impossible, Bobby, ask Great.

You cant have justice until China takes over the UNSC.

God himself wants to see justice for
all the war criminals in the world.

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Re: Ukraine, Russia, Putin – So how does it all end?
Reply #198 - Mar 26^th, 2022 at 3:54pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 26^th, 2022 at 3:48pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Mar 26^th, 2022 at 3:46pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 26^th, 2022 at 3:39pm:

My latest war thoughts.

I hope the Ukrainian army doesn’t allow the Russians to leave
from around Kiev and escape to Belarus.
That would be letting war criminals get away.
They need to block the roads – cut off supplies of: ammunition, fuel and food.
They need to round them up and either kill them or capture them
for slave labour to rebuild Ukraine.
Those in charge should be put on trial and hanged in public for war crimes.
There needs to be some justice in this world.

Impossible, Bobby, ask Great.

You cant have justice until China takes over the UNSC.

God himself wants to see justice for
all the war criminals in the world.

Dear brother being, it is not for one such as I am to speculate or reckon on such matters or utterances insofar as what God Him/Herself may or may not want, as it were, wish, as it were not, or will into MaNiFeStAtIoN.

We only speaketh the words of our dear brothers and sisters here and henceforth.

With so very much love unto thee.

Forgiven.

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Re: Ukraine, Russia, Putin – So how does it all end?
Reply #199 - Mar 26^th, 2022 at 3:57pm

Enquiring mind wrote on Mar 26^th, 2022 at 3:54pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 26^th, 2022 at 3:48pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Mar 26^th, 2022 at 3:46pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 26^th, 2022 at 3:39pm:

My latest war thoughts.

I hope the Ukrainian army doesn’t allow the Russians to leave
from around Kiev and escape to Belarus.
That would be letting war criminals get away.
They need to block the roads – cut off supplies of: ammunition, fuel and food.
They need to round them up and either kill them or capture them
for slave labour to rebuild Ukraine.
Those in charge should be put on trial and hanged in public for war crimes.
There needs to be some justice in this world.

Impossible, Bobby, ask Great.

You cant have justice until China takes over the UNSC.

God himself wants to see justice for
all the war criminals in the world.

Dear brother being, it is not for one such as I am to speculate or reckon on such matters or utterances insofar as what God Him/Herself may or may not want, as it were, wish, as it were not, or will into MaNiFeStAtIoN.

We only speaketh the words of our dear brothers and sisters here and henceforth.

With so very much love unto thee.

Forgiven.

God dispenses justice at the end of a rope - you?

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Re: Ukraine, Russia, Putin – So how does it all end?
Reply #200 - Mar 26^th, 2022 at 4:04pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 26^th, 2022 at 3:57pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Mar 26^th, 2022 at 3:54pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 26^th, 2022 at 3:48pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Mar 26^th, 2022 at 3:46pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 26^th, 2022 at 3:39pm:

My latest war thoughts.

I hope the Ukrainian army doesn’t allow the Russians to leave
from around Kiev and escape to Belarus.
That would be letting war criminals get away.
They need to block the roads – cut off supplies of: ammunition, fuel and food.
They need to round them up and either kill them or capture them
for slave labour to rebuild Ukraine.
Those in charge should be put on trial and hanged in public for war crimes.
There needs to be some justice in this world.

Impossible, Bobby, ask Great.

You cant have justice until China takes over the UNSC.

God himself wants to see justice for
all the war criminals in the world.

Dear brother being, it is not for one such as I am to speculate or reckon on such matters or utterances insofar as what God Him/Herself may or may not want, as it were, wish, as it were not, or will into MaNiFeStAtIoN.

We only speaketh the words of our dear brothers and sisters here and henceforth.

With so very much love unto thee.

Forgiven.

God dispenses justice at the end of a rope - you?

One may from time to time care to dispense justice to a recalcitrant brother/sister being as it were so it goes so be it. Humble ones such as we are do so through the practice of forgiveness.

If said being should reap what he or she hath sewn, this is no cause for speculation but merely an observance.

Forgiven.

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Re: Ukraine, Russia, Putin – So how does it all end?
Reply #201 - Mar 26^th, 2022 at 4:19pm

Enquiring mind wrote on Mar 26^th, 2022 at 4:04pm:

One may from time to time care to dispense justice to a recalcitrant brother/sister being as it were so it goes so be it. Humble ones such as we are do so through the practice of forgiveness.

If said being should reap what he or she hath sown, this is no cause for speculation but merely an observance.

Forgiven.

Hell awaits those who don't obey the law of the prophets.

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Re: Ukraine, Russia, Putin – So how does it all end?
Reply #202 - Mar 26^th, 2022 at 6:38pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 26^th, 2022 at 4:19pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Mar 26^th, 2022 at 4:04pm:

One may from time to time care to dispense justice to a recalcitrant brother/sister being as it were so it goes so be it. Humble ones such as we are do so through the practice of forgiveness.

If said being should reap what he or she hath sown, this is no cause for speculation but merely an observance.

Forgiven.

Hell awaits those who don't obey the law of the prophets.

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Re: Ukraine, Russia, Putin – So how does it all end?
Reply #203 - Mar 26^th, 2022 at 7:54pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 26^th, 2022 at 6:38pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 26^th, 2022 at 4:19pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Mar 26^th, 2022 at 4:04pm:

One may from time to time care to dispense justice to a recalcitrant brother/sister being as it were so it goes so be it. Humble ones such as we are do so through the practice of forgiveness.

If said being should reap what he or she hath sown, this is no cause for speculation but merely an observance.

Forgiven.

Hell awaits those who don't obey the law of the prophets.

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Do we need to be always politically correct.
In the world of universal deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

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athos Gold Member Offline Re-educate barbarians Posts: 6421 Hong Kong Gender:	Re: Ukraine, Russia, Putin – So how does it all end? Reply #204 - Mar 26^th, 2022 at 8:15pm In the village of Nikolaevka near Kiev, 61 Ukrainian servicemen of the command post surrendered, of which more than half were senior officers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. https://twitter.com/i/status/1507641907635232768
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Reply #205 - Mar 26^th, 2022 at 8:30pm

athos wrote on Mar 26^th, 2022 at 8:15pm:

In the village of Nikolaevka near Kiev,
61 Ukrainian servicemen of the command post surrendered,
of which more than half were senior officers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1507641907635232768

if that's true - poor blokes -
they were only defending their homeland and wives and children from the Russian Nazis.

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Re: Ukraine, Russia, Putin – So how does it all end?
Reply #207 - Mar 26^th, 2022 at 9:35pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 26^th, 2022 at 6:38pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 26^th, 2022 at 4:19pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Mar 26^th, 2022 at 4:04pm:

One may from time to time care to dispense justice to a recalcitrant brother/sister being as it were so it goes so be it. Humble ones such as we are do so through the practice of forgiveness.

If said being should reap what he or she hath sown, this is no cause for speculation but merely an observance.

Forgiven.

Hell awaits those who don't obey the law of the prophets.

Lyrics:

Oh, oh, people of the earth
Listen to the warning
The seer he said
Beware the storm that gathers here
Listen to the wise man.

I dreamed I saw on a moonlit stair
Spreading his hands on the multitude there
A man who cried for a love gone stale
And ice cold hearts of charity bare.
I watched as fear took the old men's gaze
Hopes of the young in troubled graves
"I see no day," I heard him say
So grey is the face of every mortal.

Oh, oh people of the earth
Listen to the warning
The prophet he said
For soon the cold of night will fall
Summoned by your own hand.

Oh, oh children of the land
Quicken to the new life
Take my hand
Fly and find the new green bough
Return like the white dove.

He told of death as a bone white haze
Taking the lost and the unloved babe
Late too late all the wretches run
These kings of beasts now counting their days.

From mother's love is the son estranged
Married his own his precious gain
The earth will shake in two will break
And death all around will be your dowry

Oh, oh people of the earth
Listen to the warning the seer he said
For those who hear and mark my words
Listen to the good plan

Oh, oh, oh, oh and two by two my human zoo
They'll be running for to come
Running for to come out of the rain

Oh flee for your life
Who heed me not let all your treasure make you
Oh fear for your life
Deceive you not the fires of hell will take you
Should death await you

Ah people can you hear me?
And now I know and now I know
And now I know and now I know
That you can hear me
And now I know and now I know
And now I know now I know
Now I know now I know
Now I know now I know
Now I know
The earth will shake in two will break
Death all around around around around
Around around around around
Now I know now I know
Now I know now I know
Now I know now I know
Now I know now I know
Now I know now I know
Now I know
Wo wo wo wo wo wo wo wo wo
Listen to the wise listen to the wise listen to the wise
Listen to the wise listen to the wise man
La la
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Come here (I - You)
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Ah ah ah ah ah
Listen to the man listen to the man listen to the man listen to the mad man

God gave you grace to purge this place
And peace all around may be your fortune

Oh, oh children of the land
Love is still the answer take my hand
The vision fades a voice I hear
Listen to the madman!

But still I fear and still I dare not
Laugh at the madman!

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Re: Ukraine, Russia, Putin – So how does it all end?
Reply #208 - Mar 27^th, 2022 at 1:01am

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 26^th, 2022 at 6:38pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 26^th, 2022 at 4:19pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Mar 26^th, 2022 at 4:04pm:

One may from time to time care to dispense justice to a recalcitrant brother/sister being as it were so it goes so be it. Humble ones such as we are do so through the practice of forgiveness.

If said being should reap what he or she hath sown, this is no cause for speculation but merely an observance.

Forgiven.

Hell awaits those who don't obey the law of the prophets.

And now I know.

Forgiven, dear one, with so much love.

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Reply #209 - Mar 27^th, 2022 at 1:03am

Johnnie wrote on Mar 26^th, 2022 at 9:03pm:

The Russians have got this in the bag. The MSM are making a good fight of it though.

Blowing up maternity wards, picture theaters with hundreds of kids hiding in the basement nuclear and chemical attacks pending: CCN Today.

You're enjoying it, Matty, no?

And now you know too.

Forgiven.

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