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Re: Ukraine, Russia, Putin – So how does it all end?
Reply #1020 - Jun 16^th, 2022 at 7:53pm

random wrote on Jun 16^th, 2022 at 7:37pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 16^th, 2022 at 7:30pm:

Jasin wrote on Jun 16^th, 2022 at 7:12pm:

Apparently 'thrill killers' (legalised murderers) can join the American Military and go fight in Ukraine to kill whoever is the current enemy is.

I must say - modern 'European' warfare is pretty feminised.
It's just bombardment and destruction from a safe and anonymous position of distance. 10% of it is soldiers fighting close range. The cost of all these expensive military equipment and machines are really a war against tax-payers around the world as everything is going up to pay for it all. Roll Eyes

Volodymyr Zelenskyy was on TV today.

Ukraine is admitting to losing 100 soldiers per day.
Many cities have been reduced to piles of smoking rubble.
10s of 1000s of beautiful countryside houses have been destroyed.
Millions of refugees have fled the country.
The whole war is a total disaster and a catastrophe.

I am starting to think that Ukraine should have surrendered
rather than face those consequences.

In WW2 the French surrendered and they made Paris an open city.
Paris was still basically intact at the end of the war unlike London.
That will not be the case with Ukraine.

But how would America and Israel sell weapons if they surrendered?

It makes you wonder if the military industrial complex is in charge.
They are the only ones winning.

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Re: Ukraine, Russia, Putin – So how does it all end?
Reply #1021 - Jun 16^th, 2022 at 7:54pm

Jasin wrote on Jun 16^th, 2022 at 7:43pm:

Ukraine should have just said NO to being used by NATO to get at Russia. The world would have been a better place.

The only loser here now is Ukraine.
Democrats couldn't wait to get rid of Trump to ramp up its NATO expansionism and war-mongering... and for what?
Lots of dead Ukrainians and a possibility of a fertile countryside being sterilised by nuclear consequences.

Bad America. Bad. Get back in your box!

If was Zelenskyy I would have told the world back in February -
unless NATO defends us directly - we're surrendering.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 122031 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Ukraine, Russia, Putin – So how does it all end? Reply #1022 - Jun 16^th, 2022 at 7:54pm flip
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Re: Ukraine, Russia, Putin – So how does it all end?
Reply #1024 - Jun 16^th, 2022 at 8:06pm

Zelensky is a Media wannabe. He's part of the problem making his people favour the Media/NATO expansionism and exploitation of their nation.
Regardless of outcome. Ukraine will owe the USA a hell of a lot of money for all this weaponry to fight a nation they were never going to win on their own.

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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.

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athos Gold Member Offline Re-educate barbarians Posts: 6421 Hong Kong Gender:	Re: Ukraine, Russia, Putin – So how does it all end? Reply #1025 - Jun 17^th, 2022 at 12:52pm https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FVWw83sX0AEo3sQ?format=jpg&name=small
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Re: Ukraine, Russia, Putin – So how does it all end?
Reply #1026 - Jun 17^th, 2022 at 12:53pm

Jasin wrote on Jun 16^th, 2022 at 7:43pm:

Ukraine should have just said NO to being used by NATO to get at Russia. The world would have been a better place.

The only loser here now is Ukraine.
Democrats couldn't wait to get rid of Trump to ramp up its NATO expansionism and war-mongering... and for what?
Lots of dead Ukrainians and a possibility of a fertile countryside being sterilised by nuclear consequences.

Bad America. Bad. Get back in your box!

100% right.

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Do we need to be always politically correct.
In the world of universal deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

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athos Gold Member Offline Re-educate barbarians Posts: 6421 Hong Kong Gender:	Re: Ukraine, Russia, Putin – So how does it all end? Reply #1027 - Jun 17^th, 2022 at 12:54pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 16^th, 2022 at 7:55pm: flip Please explain.
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Re: Ukraine, Russia, Putin – So how does it all end?
Reply #1028 - Jun 17^th, 2022 at 12:56pm

Jasin wrote on Jun 16^th, 2022 at 8:06pm:

Zelensky is a Media wannabe. He's part of the problem making his people favour the Media/NATO expansionism and exploitation of their nation.
Regardless of outcome. Ukraine will owe the USA a hell of a lot of money for all this weaponry to fight a nation they were never going to win on their own.

Khazar Zelensky is worse than Scott Morrison.

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Re: Ukraine, Russia, Putin – So how does it all end?
Reply #1029 - Jun 17^th, 2022 at 1:08pm

Ukraine suffering up to 1,000 casualties per day in Donbas, official says

"Up to 1,000 Ukrainian soldiers are being killed or wounded each day in the Donbas region of eastern Ukraine,
with 200 to 500 killed on average and many more wounded, a top Ukrainian official said on Wednesday".

It seems that the West is firmly determined to fight against the Russians to the last Ukrainian.

https://www.axios.com/2022/06/15/ukraine-1000-casualties-day-donbas-arakhamia

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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17122 Gender:	Re: Ukraine, Russia, Putin – So how does it all end? Reply #1030 - Jun 17^th, 2022 at 1:21pm athos wrote on Jun 17^th, 2022 at 12:54pm: Bobby. wrote on Jun 16^th, 2022 at 7:55pm: flip Please explain. Pissed Chinese man kills family from lighting fart. Neighbours eat corpses.
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athos Gold Member Offline Re-educate barbarians Posts: 6421 Hong Kong Gender:	Re: Ukraine, Russia, Putin – So how does it all end? Reply #1031 - Jun 17^th, 2022 at 1:22pm
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: Ukraine, Russia, Putin – So how does it all end? Reply #1032 - Jun 17^th, 2022 at 5:37pm And the CCP has cast russia adrift.
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athos Gold Member Offline Re-educate barbarians Posts: 6421 Hong Kong Gender:	Re: Ukraine, Russia, Putin – So how does it all end? Reply #1033 - Jun 18^th, 2022 at 12:13pm
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athos Gold Member Offline Re-educate barbarians Posts: 6421 Hong Kong Gender:	Re: Ukraine, Russia, Putin – So how does it all end? Reply #1034 - Jun 18^th, 2022 at 12:14pm MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 17^th, 2022 at 1:21pm: athos wrote on Jun 17^th, 2022 at 12:54pm: Bobby. wrote on Jun 16^th, 2022 at 7:55pm: flip Please explain. Pissed Chinese man kills family from lighting fart. Neighbours eat corpses. ??????????????????????????????????????
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