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Reply #15 - Mar 12^th, 2022 at 8:57pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 12^th, 2022 at 8:44pm:

Islam has the death penalty for atheists blasphemers and poofters. The ignorant leftists like to ignore this fact.

Ignorant leftists? How long have you been suffering the delusion only ignorant leftists ignore the evils of Islam? Maybe you’re so befuddled you imagine the Saudi royal family are leftists ?

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Reply #16 - Mar 12^th, 2022 at 9:00pm

Ayn Marx wrote on Mar 12^th, 2022 at 7:19pm:

If you have do I really need to draw your attention to Koran: Sura 3: V 7 - 10 again ?[/size][/font][/b]

Why do you stick up for that bullshit barfed up by a 7th century desert bandit?

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Alif-Lãm-Ra. ˹This is˺ a Book whose verses are well perfected and then fully explained. ˹It is˺ from the One ˹Who is˺ All-Wise, All-Aware.
https://quran.com/11?startingVerse=1

What does the fine print in the Quran say about contradictions?

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Do they not then reflect on the Quran? Had it been from anyone other than Allah, they would have certainly found in it many inconsistencies.
https://quran.com/4/82

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Leftists and the Ayatollahs have a lot in common when it comes to criticism of Islam, they don't tolerate it.

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 53070 Gender:	Re: Insulting Islam Reply #17 - Mar 12^th, 2022 at 9:09pm Mohammed sucks dead pigs balls.
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Reply #18 - Mar 12^th, 2022 at 9:18pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 12^th, 2022 at 9:00pm:

Ayn Marx wrote on Mar 12^th, 2022 at 7:19pm:

If you have do I really need to draw your attention to Koran: Sura 3: V 7 - 10 again ?[/size][/font][/b]

Why do you stick up for that bullshit barfed up by a 7th century desert bandit?

Your ability to totally misinterpret other’s posts negates any obligation to respond to yours.

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Reply #19 - Mar 12^th, 2022 at 9:56pm

Ayn Marx wrote on Mar 12^th, 2022 at 8:57pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 12^th, 2022 at 8:44pm:

Islam has the death penalty for atheists blasphemers and poofters. The ignorant leftists like to ignore this fact.

Ignorant leftists? How long have you been suffering the delusion only ignorant leftists ignore the evils of Islam? Maybe you’re so befuddled you imagine the Saudi royal family are leftists ?

It's quite clear ignorant leftists stick up for Islam despite the fact numerous countries ruled by sharia law have the death penalty for atheists blasphemers and poofters.

The Saudis don't ignore Islam the Saudi constitution says Gods Book (Quran) and the Sunnah of his Prophet are the constitution they have used Beheading to cure atheists blasphmers and poofters for about 1400 years.

Iran and Afghanistan didn't have these death penalties until the Islamic revolution in 1979 in Iran and when the Taliban took over in Afghanistan.

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Leftists and the Ayatollahs have a lot in common when it comes to criticism of Islam, they don't tolerate it.

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issuevoter Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9200 The Great State of Mind Gender:	Re: Insulting Islam Reply #20 - Mar 13^th, 2022 at 7:23am Whatever. The case of the Arab in the OP is a good example that some cultures are inferior to ours. It should be patently obvious, even to the biased. Often, the bias is founded on the ideas of humanism, which while well meaning, are naive.
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Reply #21 - Mar 13^th, 2022 at 7:41am

Ayn Marx wrote on Mar 12^th, 2022 at 8:51pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 12^th, 2022 at 7:09pm:

How can you be on guard against something deeply innate that will surface no matter how much on your guard you can be?

If that’s an obscure reference to something you imagine to be a form of repressed religious sensibility you’re so far off track it would be funny if it wasn’t so absurdly presumptuous.

Even the late Christopher Hitchens conceded that the religious instinct is ineradicable.

The extinguishing of formal religious beliefs instantly spawns a myriad of crypto-religious beliefs, hence New Age, neo-mysticism (e.g. quantum theory-based pseudoscientific mysticism) , quasi-religious cults, postmodernism (where power is god), self-help obsession (replete with truckloads of messiahs), extreme polarised political beliefs (e.g. fascism and communism)...

The often-quoted Cammaerts aphorism has been proved true:

When [people] choose not to believe in God, they do not thereafter believe in nothing. They then become capable of believing in anything.

Something Nietzsche would have agreed with.

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Reply #22 - Mar 13^th, 2022 at 9:56am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 13^th, 2022 at 7:41am:

Ayn Marx wrote on Mar 12^th, 2022 at 8:51pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 12^th, 2022 at 7:09pm:

How can you be on guard against something deeply innate that will surface no matter how much on your guard you can be?

If that’s an obscure reference to something you imagine to be a form of repressed religious sensibility you’re so far off track it would be funny if it wasn’t so absurdly presumptuous.

Even the late Christopher Hitchens conceded that the religious instinct is ineradicable.

The extinguishing of formal religious beliefs instantly spawns a myriad of crypto-religious beliefs, hence New Age, neo-mysticism (e.g. quantum theory-based pseudoscientific mysticism) , quasi-religious cults, postmodernism (where power is god), self-help obsession (replete with truckloads of messiahs), extreme polarised political beliefs (e.g. fascism and communism)...

The often-quoted Cammaerts aphorism has been proved true:

When [people] choose not to believe in God, they do not thereafter believe in nothing. They then become capable of believing in anything.

Something Nietzsche would have agreed with.

What a load of gibberish archaic crap. Roll Eyes

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Reply #23 - Mar 13^th, 2022 at 10:01am

Jasin wrote on Mar 13^th, 2022 at 9:56am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 13^th, 2022 at 7:41am:

Ayn Marx wrote on Mar 12^th, 2022 at 8:51pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 12^th, 2022 at 7:09pm:

How can you be on guard against something deeply innate that will surface no matter how much on your guard you can be?

If that’s an obscure reference to something you imagine to be a form of repressed religious sensibility you’re so far off track it would be funny if it wasn’t so absurdly presumptuous.

Even the late Christopher Hitchens conceded that the religious instinct is ineradicable.

The extinguishing of formal religious beliefs instantly spawns a myriad of crypto-religious beliefs, hence New Age, neo-mysticism (e.g. quantum theory-based pseudoscientific mysticism) , quasi-religious cults, postmodernism (where power is god), self-help obsession (replete with truckloads of messiahs), extreme polarised political beliefs (e.g. fascism and communism)...

The often-quoted Cammaerts aphorism has been proved true:

When [people] choose not to believe in God, they do not thereafter believe in nothing. They then become capable of believing in anything.

Something Nietzsche would have agreed with.

What a load of gibberish archaic crap. Roll Eyes

Your posts prove my point.

You think they're proving you have esoteric, mystical innsight. They're schizophrenic word salad similar to Chinese who don't speak English but trying to write English rap lyrics anyway.

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Reply #24 - Mar 14^th, 2022 at 8:01am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 13^th, 2022 at 7:41am:

The often-quoted Cammaerts aphorism has been proved true:

When [people] choose not to believe in God, they do not thereafter believe in nothing. They then become capable of believing in anything.

Something Nietzsche would have agreed with.

Indeed, and here we have in a few words the central threat to our species survival.

At this point I have to confess to a teenage alergy to Nietzsche I’ve never recovered from.
After struggling through Also Sprach Zarathustra I threw that tome at the wall.
His assertion it was not the content of a people’s beliefs that made them great so much as the actual practice of valuing still repulses me. If my reading of his central thesis means that our willingness is more important than the merit of our goals I suggest we are dealing with no more than amorality.

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Reply #25 - Mar 14^th, 2022 at 10:31am

Saudi Arabia executes 81 people in a single day

Saudi Arabia has executed 81 men over the past 24 hours, including seven Yemenis and one Syrian national, on charges including “allegiance to foreign terrorist organisations” and holding “deviant beliefs”

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/12/saudi-arabia-executes-81-people-in-a-si...

The Saudis are not the worst though, Iran is ... followed by Egypt and Iraq, then the Saudis. In 2020 Iran executed 244 . The Saudis executed 25 in the same year

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-60722057 ... scroll down a little for the graph

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Reply #26 - Mar 14^th, 2022 at 2:24pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Mar 14^th, 2022 at 10:31am:

Saudi Arabia executes 81 people in a single day

Saudi Arabia has executed 81 men over the past 24 hours, including seven Yemenis and one Syrian national, on charges including “allegiance to foreign terrorist organisations” and holding “deviant beliefs”

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/12/saudi-arabia-executes-81-people-in-a-si...

The Saudis are not the worst though, Iran is ... followed by Egypt and Iraq, then the Saudis. In 2020 Iran executed 244 . The Saudis executed 25 in the same year

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-60722057 ... scroll down a little for the graph

I am not all together against capital punishment. Its a bit like taking the garbage out, someone has to do it. But with the case of Saudi executions, progressive multiculturalists are not very loud in their criticism as they would be if it was a European culture. That's the point. Our culture is better than theirs, but multiculturalists believe in cultural relativism."Everything is beautiful in its own way . . ." even chopping people's hands off for stealing.

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Reply #27 - Mar 17^th, 2022 at 7:55am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 12^th, 2022 at 7:09pm:

Ayn Marx wrote on Mar 12^th, 2022 at 7:06pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 12^th, 2022 at 6:59pm:

Ayn Marx wrote on Mar 12^th, 2022 at 6:56pm:

We need to be on guard though against any body of religious dogma claiming it speaks for and on behalf of ’The Almighty’ . Few instances of human vanity equal this one.
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The claim of the ability to commune with the gods is found in all cultures and is as ancient as humanity.

It may even have been a feature of pre-homosapiens species.

So what ?

How can you be on guard against something deeply innate that will surface no matter how much on your guard you can be?

Apply logic to your thought processes and avoid the obvious ‘altered states’ promoted by organised religions etc for a start.

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Reply #28 - Mar 17^th, 2022 at 8:11am

Ayn Marx wrote on Mar 17^th, 2022 at 7:55am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 12^th, 2022 at 7:09pm:

Ayn Marx wrote on Mar 12^th, 2022 at 7:06pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 12^th, 2022 at 6:59pm:

Ayn Marx wrote on Mar 12^th, 2022 at 6:56pm:

We need to be on guard though against any body of religious dogma claiming it speaks for and on behalf of ’The Almighty’ . Few instances of human vanity equal this one.
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The claim of the ability to commune with the gods is found in all cultures and is as ancient as humanity.

It may even have been a feature of pre-homosapiens species.

So what ?

How can you be on guard against something deeply innate that will surface no matter how much on your guard you can be?

Apply logic to your thought processes and avoid the obvious ‘altered states’ promoted by organised religions etc for a start.

Instinctive action and need comes before logic.

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Reply #29 - Mar 17^th, 2022 at 10:41am

Ayn Marx wrote on Mar 14^th, 2022 at 8:01am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 13^th, 2022 at 7:41am:

The often-quoted Cammaerts aphorism has been proved true:

When [people] choose not to believe in God, they do not thereafter believe in nothing. They then become capable of believing in anything.

Something Nietzsche would have agreed with.

Indeed, and here we have in a few words the central threat to our species survival.

At this point I have to confess to a teenage alergy to Nietzsche I’ve never recovered from.
After struggling through Also Sprach Zarathustra I threw that tome at the wall.
His assertion it was not the content of a people’s beliefs that made them great so much as the actual practice of valuing still repulses me. If my reading of his central thesis means that our willingness is more important than the merit of our goals I suggest we are dealing with no more than amorality.

You should start on Nietzsche with Zarathustra.
Start with The Birth of Tragedy from the Spirit of Music. Belief and practice - mind and instinct - Apollo and Dionysos (road signs).

Daybreak, Human all too Human and The Gay (Joyful) Science are full of excellent aphorisms and very insightful reflections.

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