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Reply #1380 - Jan 2nd, 2026 at 2:09pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 2nd, 2026 at 1:50pm:
Jan 1, 2026 

How the U S  Is Quietly Erasing $38 Trillion in Debt

The National Debt is being paid by you. This video exposes the "Cantillon Effect": How the Federal Reserve prints money for the rich while inflating the cost of living for the poor. We analyze the "K-Shaped Recovery," why the "60/40 Portfolio" is dead, and how CBDCs (Digital Dollar) are the final trap to lock you into a system of negative interest rates.




The US government is spending big on 'defence', and just enough on social welfare to avoid civil war.

Menawhile, despite low tax rates and resulting high government deficits and debt,  its the fastest growing economy in the G7.

Regardless of who is paying the National Debt, which is a different story....

Any clues on how to avoid democratic dysfunction  caused by government 'austerity', while attempting to reduce government debt?
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Reply #1381 - Jan 2nd, 2026 at 2:18pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 2nd, 2026 at 2:09pm:
The US government is spending big on 'defence', and just enough on social welfare to avoid civil war.

Menawhile, despite low tax rates and resulting high government deficits and debt,  its the fastest growing economy in the G7.

Regardless of who is paying the National Debt, which is a different story....

Any clues on how to avoid democratic dysfunction  caused by government 'austerity', while attempting to reduce government debt?



I have no ideas - MMT has dug such a deep hole that
no one knows how to dig their way out.
Looks like they'll rely on inflation caused by excessive money printing
as a way to do it but savings will one day be worthless.
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Reply #1382 - Jan 2nd, 2026 at 5:52pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 2nd, 2026 at 2:18pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 2nd, 2026 at 2:09pm:
The US government is spending big on 'defence', and just enough on social welfare to avoid civil war.

Menawhile, despite low tax rates and resulting high government deficits and debt,  its the fastest growing economy in the G7.

Regardless of who is paying the National Debt, which is a different story....

Any clues on how to avoid democratic dysfunction  caused by government 'austerity', while attempting to reduce government debt?



I have no ideas - MMT has dug such a deep hole that
no one knows how to dig their way out.


Your error: Neoclassical economics has dug the 'inescapable' deficit hole, not MMT.

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Looks like they'll rely on inflation caused by excessive money printing
as a way to do it but savings will one day be worthless.


Nothing to do with debt free money creation by the currency-issuing  government  (alongside money creation in private banks), employing AI to balance resource mobilization and allocation, in a macro-economic scenario of mandated full employment, zero central bank interest rates, and price controls when necessary to minimize inflation. 
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Reply #1383 - Jan 2nd, 2026 at 5:59pm
 
Speaking of the economy:

(Alternet)

Trump loses more ground with middle class

President Donald Trump is closing out 2025 with lower approval ratings from a key demographic: the middle class.

Trump's economy has been plagued by erratic tariffs and an affordability crisis he claimed was a "hoax."

The recent Economist/YouGov poll shows those with incomes between $50,000-$100,000 had a shift in sentiment among the key demographic. It's enough for Republicans to be concerned about as the 2026 midterm elections near.

Trump's net approval has fallen, but among the middle class, it dropped from -10 in October (43 percent approve/53 percent disapprove) to -12 in November (43 percent /55 percent). As of December, Trump's approval is down by 17 points (40 percent/57 percent).

There is a ± 3.6 percent margin of error.

The numbers confirm what a new PBS News/NPR/Marist poll showed from December.

Trump announced on Wednesday that the numbers are down because they're ultimately fake.

President Donald Trump said in a Truth Social post:

“The polls are rigged even more than the writers. The real number is 64 percent, and why not, our Country is ‘hotter’ than ever before. Isn't it nice to have a STRONG BORDER, No Inflation, a powerful Military, and great Economy??? Happy New Year!” he wrote.

"The most important reasons he won in 2024 were his promises to bring inflation down and juice the economy. That's the reason he won so many voters who traditionally had supported Democrats, including Hispanics…But he hasn't been able to deliver. Inflation has moderated, but it hasn't gone backward," said GOP pollster Whit Ayres while speaking to the Los Angeles Times.


......

Less than year to find out if "the polls are rigged", as Trump claims.

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Reply #1384 - Jan 3rd, 2026 at 9:32am
 
(Daily Mail)

Mayor Zohran Mamdani moves quickly to implement socialist reforms

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Mamdani reached out to voters who backed Donald Trump in the presidential election and himself in the mayoral election, saying he understood that the rocketing cost of living was their primary concern. 'Many of these people have been betrayed by the established order. But in our administration, their needs will be met,' Mamdani said. 'Their hopes and dreams and interests will be reflected transparently in government. They will shape our future.' Mamdani met with Trump in the Oval Office in November 2025, with the Republican president full of praise for the new star of the Democrat party. Mamdani , who was born in Uganda, has promised to offer free daycare and free buses across the city. He also plans to enact a millionaire tax, with critics warning that his policies could drive out the super-rich, whose taxes fund public services in the Big Apple.

See the problem: the super-rich supposedly fund public services, yet there is a cost-of-livng and housing crisis in NY - and around the world.
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Re: Modern Monetary Theory (MMT)
Reply #1385 - Jan 3rd, 2026 at 12:35pm
 
TGD,
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Your error: Neoclassical economics has dug the 'inescapable' deficit hole, not MMT.


Whatever   Roll Eyes

The fact remains that when you give politicians a blank cheque - money printing -
they will do anything to stay in power -
including bankrupting our great grand children before they are even born.   Roll Eyes

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Reply #1386 - Jan 6th, 2026 at 5:06pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 3rd, 2026 at 12:35pm:
TGD,
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Your error: Neoclassical economics has dug the 'inescapable' deficit hole, not MMT.


Whatever   Roll Eyes


Not "whatever"; you need to understand  the cause of the current national and global economic malaise.

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The fact remains that when you give politicians a blank cheque - money printing - they will do anything to stay in power - including bankrupting our great grand children before they are even born.   Roll Eyes

 

Er - our great grand children need the government to continually upgrade and maintain essential public infrastructure, otherwise they will be faced with the cost....

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Reply #1387 - Yesterday at 10:10am
 
And speaking of dysfuctional Neoclassical free-market economics:

(Fortune)

Gen Z is defiantly 'giving up' on ever owning a home and is spending more than saving, working less, and making risky investments, study shows

The housing market only continues to look more bleak for younger generations—and it shows. The average age for a first-time homebuyer recently jumped to 40, signaling the housing market is starved for affordability.

And younger generations are so disappointed and frustrated by the state of the housing market they are spending more of their earnings than they are saving, they’re working less, and they’re making risky investments, according to a recently published paper by Northwestern University and University of Chicago researchers.

In other words, younger generations are “giving up.” That’s according to Northwestern’s Seung Hyeong Lee and Chicago’s Younggeun Yoo, who also cited a 2024 Harris Poll survey about the state of real estate that showed 42% of Americans and 46% of Gen Z respondents agreed with this statement: “No matter how hard I work, I will never be able to afford a home I really love.”

While households typically adjust consumption to stay on track with long-term goals like buying a home, younger people are crossing a “threshold at which they begin to give up on [buying a home] entirely.”

The idea that this generation is “giving up” is also echoed in an analysis by Gen Z’s favorite economist, Kyla Scanlon, who argues younger people face a sense of “financial nihilism,” a phenomenon in which they question the American Dream amid stagnant wages, student loan debt, and corporate dominance.

Gen Z has “watched the American Dream rot before their eyes, as higher education becomes a luxury good, a housing crisis exacerbates the cost of living, all backdropped by political stagnation and rapid (perhaps even too rapid) technological advancement,” she wrote, making the point this generation has lived through not one, or two, but three major economic downturns.

Gen Z is saving less than they’re spending

The first phenomenon Lee and Yoo outline regarding Gen Z’s withdrawal from buying a home is that they’re spending more money than they’re saving.

“We find that when home prices rise to the point where renters can no longer afford to buy a house within the foreseeable future by saving their wages, renters give up on home purchases and instead use their savings to increase consumption,” they wrote.

Several other studies this year have shown Gen Z is doomspending rather than saving, with one study showing nearly half don’t even have an emergency fund saved up. A Bankrate survey also showed as many as 27% of Gen Z carry more debt than they do savings.

“Many Gen Zers find themselves walking a financial tightrope, torn between covering immediate expenses or setting money aside for emergencies and paying for goods on credit instead,” Aleksandra Medina, cofounder of finance app Frich, previously told Fortune.

Some of that may be owing to the fact Gen Z expects to inherit money and assets from the $124 trillion Great Wealth Transfer, but a Northwestern Mutual survey shows very few can expect a windfall of cash upon a relative’s death.


Gen Z works differently

We’ve all heard Gen Z supposedly doesn’t work as hard as other generations, which may or may not be true—it’s somewhat impossible to measure. Lee and Yoo found in their research Gen Z has cut down on their effort at work because they don’t think it’s worth it if they can’t afford long-term financial goals. They cite answers to psychographic questions about the importance of “always giving my best effort” at work. Their research shows the share of renters reporting low work effort is nearly twice the rate observed among homeowners.

“This shift is consistent with a reallocation of time and effort by discouraged renters,” the researchers wrote. “As the perceived returns to labor (in terms of progressing toward homeownership) diminish, so does the value they place on maintaining high work effort.”

Scanlon has a different take on Gen Z’s work effort, though.

She argues: “Maybe it’s not that they don’t want to do anything anymore, but rather they don’t want to do anything in the way that it’s always been done anymore.”

Gen Z is making risky investments

The third way Gen Z is responding to their inability to buy a home, the researchers argue, is by taking on risky investments, like buying cryptocurrencies. Their research also shows when buying a home for a Gen Zer seems unaffordable, they also increase their leisure spending.

“Renters with a plausible path to homeownership may exhibit lower risk tolerance, as significant losses could derail their progress toward that goal,” they wrote. “In contrast, those who have already given up on homeownership may perceive they have less to lose, and therefore engage more willingly in risky financial behavior.”

Other 2025 research indicates Gen Z is far more likely to own crypto than have a retirement account, illustrating how they’re more willing to take on riskier investments. And finance experts are worried about the pattern, they told Fortune’s Emma Burleigh.



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Reply #1388 - Yesterday at 10:59am
 
Force 'em all to work and give 'em all equal money for doing nothing ... we need the taxpayers in jobs - not 'business' with all the benefits - to pay for the rorting of NDIS, childcare, education and so forth... those things that are setting up thieving groups in fine style while robbing ordinary Australians...

No wonder Shorten bailed out just before the engines caught fire... he knew what was coming.... politicians who enabled all this theft should be RICO'd.
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Reply #1389 - Today at 10:56am
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote Yesterday at 10:59am:
Force 'em all to work and give 'em all equal money for doing nothing


Two errors:

1.  "Force 'em all to work' suggests slavery, and doesn't take into account the un/under-employment rate; and nobody is suggesting a UBI - except Musk who says "work will be optional amd currencies irrelevant in a couple of decades" (as AI comes to fruition).

2. Most people know they MUST work,  to earn an income and participate in the nation's social/economic life.

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No we don't; government which funds itself via taxpayers is faced by a 'Catch-22': government needs to increase taxes to fund essential social services, but government needs to reduce taxes to get elected.

Hence:

https://publicmoneypublicgood.net/

Note: public money, not taxpayer money.

Of course, attempts by governments to tax wealth result in rich taxpayers leaving the country, hence the current crisis of governments who are forced to practice 'austerity' to balance their budgets. 


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not 'business' with all the benefits - to pay for the rorting of NDIS, childcare, education and so forth... those things that are setting up thieving groups in fine style while robbing ordinary Australians...



...the consequences of privatization of essential public services.

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No wonder Shorten bailed out just before the engines caught fire... he knew what was coming.... politicians who enabled all this theft should be RICO'd.


Yes.
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