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Re: Modern Monetary Theory (MMT)
Reply #1365 - Dec 12th, 2025 at 10:59am
 
Bobby. wrote on Dec 12th, 2025 at 5:58am:
Find out how MMT has turned France into a basket case:


Find out why bobby is confused: France, like everyone else, insists on making taxpayers pay for essential public services.

..which is not MMT.

https://publicmoneypublicgood.net/

Note: the 'smicardization' of wages is a result of money being syphoned out of the economy  increasing numbers of billionaires.


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Re: Modern Monetary Theory (MMT)
Reply #1366 - Dec 12th, 2025 at 11:03am
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 12th, 2025 at 10:59am:
Bobby. wrote on Dec 12th, 2025 at 5:58am:
Find out how MMT has turned France into a basket case:


Find out why bobby is confused: France, like everyone else, insists on making taxpayers pay for essential pubic services.

..which is not MMT.

https://publicmoneypublicgood.net/





In all fairness - I don't think you watched the video?

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Reply #1367 - Dec 12th, 2025 at 11:17am
 
Bobby. wrote on Dec 12th, 2025 at 11:03am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 12th, 2025 at 10:59am:
Bobby. wrote on Dec 12th, 2025 at 5:58am:
Find out how MMT has turned France into a basket case:


Find out why bobby is confused: France, like everyone else, insists on making taxpayers pay for essential public services.

..which is not MMT.

https://publicmoneypublicgood.net/





In all fairness - I don't think you watched the video?



I looked up the meaning of 'smicardisation'; it's obviously a result of increasing numbers of billionaires syphoning money out of the economy, while governments are forced into austerity and 'fiscal discipline' (hence Albo saying he can't afford to maintain funding for public hospitals).

Deplorable.

Your videos all reject interest free money creation in the nation's treasury, as per MMT, in conjunction with  the necesary control of inflation.

I'm not interested in mainstream  economics which is ruining France and everyone else.

Can you say in a few words what the vidoe's solution to France's woes are?

And what of the other 190 countries in the world......?


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Reply #1368 - Dec 12th, 2025 at 11:41am
 
Maya Indians used to grow money on trees in form of cocoa beans..
Did they have inflation problems?
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Reply #1369 - Dec 12th, 2025 at 11:43am
 
Bobby. wrote on Dec 12th, 2025 at 5:58am:
Find out how MMT has turned France into a basket case:






France is the world’s most visited country, famous for luxury fashion, fine dining, and a romantic lifestyle. But behind the postcard image lies a brutal economic reality. From stagnating wages to a crushing tax burden, the French middle class is quietly evaporating.

In this video, we dig into the data to reveal why France is steadily becoming poorer. We analyze the "Smicardization" of the workforce, the collapse of the industrial sector, and a national debt that threatens the stability of Europe. Is the French economic model broken beyond repair?

IN THIS VIDEO, WE COVER:

The "Smicardization" Phenomenon: Why even educated professionals barely earn minimum wage.

The Tax Trap: How France’s record-breaking taxes kill purchasing power.

Deindustrialization: How France became a "Museum Economy" with no factories.

The Brain Drain: Why the country's brightest minds are fleeing to the US and Switzerland.

The Debt Bomb: The terrifying truth about France's public finances.

CHAPTERS:
0:00 - The Fantasy vs. Reality
0:42 - The "Smicardization" of Salaries
3:13 - The Museum Economy (Deindustrialization)
5:58 - The €3 Trillion Debt Bomb
7:59 - The Great Tax Illusion
10:18 - The Pension Ponzi Scheme
12:06 - The Brain Drain (Exodus of the Elite)
14:16 - The Collapse of Public Services
15:53 - World Champions of Pessimism
18:00 - A Warning for the West
20:28 - Future Outlook


OK...I'll  bite....

Error #1.

The gap between the minimum wage and  mean wage is huge in the US because,  unlike France, the minimum wage in the US is way below the poverty level, hence the need for a government-funded SNAP scheme (aka 'food stamps') in the US, on which 40 million people depend.

And btw the gap between the  mean wage and average wage in the US is soaring, as AI billionaires hoover up more of the nation's wealth, resulting in the hyperpartisanship we see in the US.
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Reply #1370 - Dec 12th, 2025 at 1:21pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 12th, 2025 at 11:43am:
OK...I'll  bite....

Error #1.

The gap between the minimum wage and  mean wage is huge in the US because,  unlike France, the minimum wage in the US is way below the poverty level, hence the need for a government-funded SNAP scheme (aka 'food stamps') in the US, on which 40 million people depend.

And btw the gap between the  mean wage and average wage in the US is soaring, as AI billionaires hoover up more of the nation's wealth, resulting in the hyperpartisanship we see in the US.



Watch at 6:36

France has not passed a balanced Govt budget since 1974,  over 50 years.
The French Govt has spent more than it earned.
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Reply #1371 - Dec 12th, 2025 at 3:13pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Dec 12th, 2025 at 1:21pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 12th, 2025 at 11:43am:
OK...I'll  bite....

Error #1.

The gap between the minimum wage and  mean wage is huge in the US because,  unlike France, the minimum wage in the US is way below the poverty level, hence the need for a government-funded SNAP scheme (aka 'food stamps') in the US, on which 40 million people depend.

And btw the gap between the  mean wage and average wage in the US is soaring, as AI billionaires hoover up more of the nation's wealth, resulting in the hyperpartisanship we see in the US.



Watch at 6:36

France has not passed a balanced Govt budget since 1974,  over 50 years.
The French Govt has spent more than it earned.


Likewise the US last had a surplus under Clinton 1998-2001(one of the few since WW2), courtesy the strong economy leading up to the dot.com crash; now the US actually has a higher government debt to gdp ratio than France, proving that factors other than government debt engender a strong economy. 
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Re: Modern Monetary Theory (MMT)
Reply #1372 - Dec 13th, 2025 at 7:24am
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 12th, 2025 at 3:13pm:
Bobby. wrote on Dec 12th, 2025 at 1:21pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 12th, 2025 at 11:43am:
OK...I'll  bite....

Error #1.

The gap between the minimum wage and  mean wage is huge in the US because,  unlike France, the minimum wage in the US is way below the poverty level, hence the need for a government-funded SNAP scheme (aka 'food stamps') in the US, on which 40 million people depend.

And btw the gap between the  mean wage and average wage in the US is soaring, as AI billionaires hoover up more of the nation's wealth, resulting in the hyperpartisanship we see in the US.



Watch at 6:36

France has not passed a balanced Govt budget since 1974,  over 50 years.
The French Govt has spent more than it earned.


Likewise the US last had a surplus under Clinton 1998-2001(one of the few since WW2), courtesy the strong economy leading up to the dot.com crash; now the US actually has a higher government debt to gdp ratio than France, proving that factors other than government debt engender a strong economy. 



It's a bit different when the USA has the world reserve currency but
that won't last forever.
The video covers that too.
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Reply #1373 - Dec 16th, 2025 at 12:08pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2025 at 7:24am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 12th, 2025 at 3:13pm:
Bobby. wrote on Dec 12th, 2025 at 1:21pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 12th, 2025 at 11:43am:
OK...I'll  bite....

Error #1.

The gap between the minimum wage and  mean wage is huge in the US because,  unlike France, the minimum wage in the US is way below the poverty level, hence the need for a government-funded SNAP scheme (aka 'food stamps') in the US, on which 40 million people depend.

And btw the gap between the  mean wage and average wage in the US is soaring, as AI billionaires hoover up more of the nation's wealth, resulting in the hyperpartisanship we see in the US.



Watch at 6:36

France has not passed a balanced Govt budget since 1974,  over 50 years.
The French Govt has spent more than it earned.


Likewise the US last had a surplus under Clinton 1998-2001(one of the few since WW2), courtesy the strong economy leading up to the dot.com crash; now the US actually has a higher government debt to gdp ratio than France, proving that factors other than government debt engender a strong economy. 



It's a bit different when the USA has the world reserve currency but
that won't last forever.
The video covers that too.


at c. 7.20:

"the interest on the debt will soon eclipse the education budget"  - which proves a currency-issuing government should never borrow money from the  private sector.

[which in the case of France points to a problem with the adoption of a supra- national currency, ie,  the EU's Euro which France CAN'T issue. ]

https://publicmoneypublicgood.net/: Note: public money, not taxpayer money (which is private sector money).
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Reply #1374 - Dec 18th, 2025 at 4:16pm
 
Prof. Steve Keen's  latest video on money creation:  "It's time to panic"


https://substack.com/redirect/404511e1-1eed-4c9e-a738-6ac381e0ec72?j=eyJ1Ijoicnp...
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Reply #1375 - Dec 23rd, 2025 at 12:34pm
 
"It's the economy stupid" - and economists don't have a clue.

Some brave souls trying to find their way through the booms and busts:

(Part 1)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKgiKFfnPqE
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Reply #1376 - Dec 25th, 2025 at 12:52pm
 
Merry Xmas to mainstream economists...except you are destroying democracy with your demands for balanced government budgets

We need macroeconomic planning to achieve socially just (fair) resource mobilization and allocation via central planning, alongside private-sector profit-driven 'invisible hand' free markets, to avoid inflation if the public sector is to run deficits, to be able to eradicate entrenched disadvantage and cost of living crises badly affecting the less well-off. 

Note: currency-issuing governments are constrained by resources, not money, and they can issue interest free money to fund government provided the resource contraint is well-managed.
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Reply #1377 - Dec 28th, 2025 at 10:03am
 
This is why governments can no longer rely on taxation to fund vital social services:

(Daily Mail)

Billionaires plotting to flee California over proposed super wealth tax

Venture capitalist Peter Thiel and Google co-founder Larry Page are among those plotting to flee, according to The New York Times.

Three companies associated with Page have filed documents of incorporation in Florida, the outlet reported.

Tech investor Chamath Palihapitiya also confirmed earlier this week that he has given 'serious consideration' to relocating to Texas if the measure goes ahead.

He said: 'The inevitable outcome will be an exodus of the state's most talented entrepreneurs who can and will choose to build their companies in less regressive states.'


My comment: there is no limit to greed, and indifference to disadvantage.

The threats come in response to a ballot measure proposed by the Service Employees International Union-United Healthcare Workers West union, which was cleared for campaign by the state Attorney General’s Office.

The union proposes hitting Californians worth over $1 billion where it hurts most with a 5 percent tax on every dollar of their vast fortunes.

High-net-worth tax and immigration adviser David Lesperance admitted that nearly all of his clients are 'taking steps as quickly as possible both to sever California residence and to move assets out of the state', according to the NYT.

Miami real estate agent Brett Harris also told the outlet that five California billionaires had already contacted him, exploring a move to Florida to 'offset their risk of exposure to the billionaire tax'.

However, Harris noted, if the measure fails, those same billionaires 'may end up moving back to California.'

According to the union, the measure aims to tackle the 'growing gap' between hefty executive salaries and the real-world challenges faced by patients and frontline staff.

'At a time when healthcare executives are collecting multimillion-dollar paychecks while patients delay care and frontline workers struggle to make ends meet, it's clear the system is broken,' ultrasound technologist Mayra Casteneda said.

'This initiative is about putting healthcare dollars where they belong - into patient care, safer staffing and expanding access - instead of rewarding healthcare executives for maintaining a status quo that puts profits over patient care.'

One term of the measure would cap pay for executives, administrators and managers at both nonprofit and for-profit hospitals and medical groups at $450,000 per year.


My comment: there is a problem even with the gap between those earning a ('mere')  half a million, and those actually on the frontline of service delivery; and yet the state's billionaires want to run away....

Californians with $20 billion in assets would also owe a one-time tax of $1 billion, with five years to pay under the proposed measure.

This means that Page, who is worth roughly $258 billion, would be hit with a $27.5 billion one-time tax, while Thiel, with $27.5 billion, might owe $1.2 billion.

The union said the proposed tax could generate up to $100 million from roughly 200 billionaires, potentially offsetting federal budget cuts, as reported by the NYT.

However, California’s Legislative Analyst’s Office and Department of Finance project that the wealth tax 'would collect tens of billions of dollars' in one-time payments.

Suzanne Jimenez, the union’s chief of staff, said some ideas in the proposal stem from her belief that California billionaires are the 'most fortunate people in this state'.

'We looked at how could we generate the revenue to fix this kind of hole, and this group of folks just made sense,' she told the outlet.

Thiel, who runs a personal investment firm in Los Angeles, has reportedly begun seeking to open Thiel Capital - an office for his firm - in another state, according to three close sources who spoke to the NYT.

Two sources familiar with the private discussions told the NYT that Page, a longtime Palo Alto resident, had discussed leaving California before the end of the year.

Governor Gavin Newsom and  Silicon Valley investors have also criticized the measure, with Newsom describing the proposed wealth tax as 'not pragmatic,' as reported by the outlet.

A spokesman said the governor continues to oppose 'state-level wealth taxes', arguing they give people an incentive to relocate to another state.

Newsom has even raised funds for a committee dedicated to opposing the measure, which has since received a $100,000 donation from venture capitalist Ron Conway.

But tax advisor Lesperance said it would be a lengthy and challenging process for people to successfully claim non-residence in California, according to the NYT.


My comment: note the so-called "progressive" Newsom (D) is also against wealth taxes - unless the federal government wears the opprobrium for imposing them.

Meanwhile, the state's Department of Finance warned that California could lose hundreds of millions annually in income tax revenue if these billionaires were to leave, according to the outlet.

The wealth tax debate emerges amid widening income inequality in the United States, which increased consistently over a 33-year span ending in 2022.

The result is striking, according to data from the Congressional Budget Office. The top 10 percent hold 69 percent of the nation's riches, while the bottom 50 percent share a mere 3 percent.


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Reply #1378 - Dec 29th, 2025 at 11:25am
 
https://profstevekeen.substack.com/p/the-dubious-role-of-interest-rates?utm_camp...

The dubious role of interest rates:

Do interest rate movements help control inflation, or simply add to income inequality?
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Reply #1379 - Jan 2nd, 2026 at 1:50pm
 

Jan 1, 2026 

How the U S  Is Quietly Erasing $38 Trillion in Debt

The National Debt is being paid by you. This video exposes the "Cantillon Effect": How the Federal Reserve prints money for the rich while inflating the cost of living for the poor. We analyze the "K-Shaped Recovery," why the "60/40 Portfolio" is dead, and how CBDCs (Digital Dollar) are the final trap to lock you into a system of negative interest rates.


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