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Re: CCP stooges: less poverty in China than the west
Reply #226 - Jun 18^th, 2024 at 4:24pm

freediver wrote on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 7:02pm:

Do you know what quantitative means?

Let's see:

er...a person on the dole and living in a tent in an Oz city is less well off than a poor farmer who owns a house in rural China, despite your befuddled assertion the dole in Oz is higher than a farmer's wage in rural China.

...ie, the dole in Oz is "quantitively" higher (according to you) than the median wage of a farmer in rural China whose income from agriculture is subsidized by the government, to avoid the 'suiciding farmer' catastrophes frequent in India where a good season means low prices resulting in unservicable farmers' debt.

What is your conception of "quantitative?

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Re: CCP stooges: less poverty in China than the west
Reply #227 - Jun 18^th, 2024 at 4:45pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 18^th, 2024 at 4:24pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 7:02pm:

Do you know what quantitative means?

Let's see:

er...a person on the dole and living in a tent in an Oz city is less well off than a poor farmer who owns a house in rural China, despite your befuddled assertion the dole in Oz is higher than a farmer's wage in rural China.

...ie, the dole in Oz is "quantitively" higher (according to you) than the median wage of a farmer in rural China whose income from agriculture is subsidized by the government, to avoid the 'suiciding farmer' catastrophes frequent in India where a good season means low prices resulting in unservicable farmers' debt.

What is your conception of "quantitative?

I'll take that as a no.

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Re: CCP stooges: less poverty in China than the west
Reply #228 - Jan 17^th, 2026 at 10:16am

thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 14^th, 2026 at 12:56pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 13^th, 2026 at 2:10pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 13^th, 2026 at 11:18am:

freediver wrote on Jan 13^th, 2026 at 10:28am:

If 10% of the population is earning $9,990,000 per year, and the rest are earning $1000, the median salary is $1000, and the average is $1,000,000. Your little switch from the median to the average merely covers up the fact that most Chinese workers earn less than half of what our unemployment benefits are by pretending that China's mega-rich (and there are plenty of them) are sharing their income with China's workers.

The point is the trend.

The point is, you said I was wrong. I wasn't. You keep telling lies, then insisting they are beside the point.

Wrong on both counts,

Let's try again little pink. What is actually wrong with the statement? Note that being able to provide an alternative statistic does not mean this one is wrong.

freediver wrote on Jan 12^th, 2026 at 10:56am:

Furthermore, the median Chinese salary is still less than half of our unemployment benefits.

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Re: CCP stooges: less poverty in China than the west
Reply #229 - Jan 17^th, 2026 at 10:20am

This is interesting. From Google's AI summary:

Based on available reports, the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) maintains a system that, while allowing for wage growth in some sectors, actively suppresses independent wage negotiations and suppresses workers' demands for higher pay, often resulting in lower wages than a free market might produce.

This forces China's poor to work harder, keeps foreign money coming in for the cheap labour, and keeps most of the benefits of their labour going to China's mega-rich.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 52521 At my desk.	Re: CCP stooges: less poverty in China than the west Reply #230 - Feb 3^rd, 2026 at 6:29am Quote: the median Chinese salary is still less than half of our unemployment benefits Little pink, are we to assume from your silence that you understand the statistic now, or that you are still waiting on someone from the CCP propaganda bureau to tell you what to think?
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Re: CCP stooges: less poverty in China than the west
Reply #231 - Feb 3^rd, 2026 at 9:41am

freediver wrote on Jan 17^th, 2026 at 10:20am:

This is interesting. From Google's AI summary:

Based on available reports, the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) maintains a system that, while allowing for wage growth in some sectors, actively suppresses independent wage negotiations and suppresses workers' demands for higher pay, often resulting in lower wages than a free market might produce.

This forces China's poor to work harder, keeps foreign money coming in for the cheap labour, and keeps most of the benefits of their labour going to China's mega-rich.

The ancient but now modern neo-Mandarin/Emperor with warlords system writ large. The more things 'change' ....

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