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Re: CCP stooges: less poverty in China than the west
Reply #195 - May 4^th, 2024 at 1:57pm

freediver wrote on Apr 4^th, 2024 at 4:47pm:

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Read the article, you lazy sod.

You made the claim. I want to know what you mean.

No, the Oz poverty researchers "made the claim":

" there are many poverty lines, but Job Seeker is not above any of them".

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If you have no idea what you are on about..

Says the blind ideologue who can't read researched statistics.

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Re: CCP stooges: less poverty in China than the west
Reply #197 - May 11^th, 2024 at 2:07pm

freediver wrote on May 10^th, 2024 at 1:26pm:

So you are just parroting propaganda without understanding what any of it means?

1. Research isn't propaganda, just because you don't like the outcomes.

2. The issue is increasing poverty and inequality in Oz, versus decreasing poverty in China (despite the current real-estate free-market debacle in China: China is growing c.5%, whereas Oz is close to recession).

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49969 At my desk.	Re: CCP stooges: less poverty in China than the west Reply #198 - May 11^th, 2024 at 2:49pm Quote: Research isn't propaganda Parroting random slogans you find on the internet isn't research. It is self delusion. It is propaganda. You do not even know what it means.
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Re: CCP stooges: less poverty in China than the west
Reply #199 - May 12^th, 2024 at 3:21pm

freediver wrote on May 11^th, 2024 at 2:49pm:

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Research isn't propaganda

Parroting random slogans you find on the internet isn't research. It is self delusion. It is propaganda. You do not even know what it means.

Note the perils of debating blind "freedom values" ideologues.

He thinks there is no housing crisis in Oz, and job seeker payment is fine - even the BCA rejects that. 'Nuff said.

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Re: CCP stooges: less poverty in China than the west
Reply #200 - May 12^th, 2024 at 4:26pm

In China, the average price to income ratio is approximately 29 - that is, you need 29 years salary to buy your own home. This is despite the tiny sizes and poor quality in China. In Australia, we have the largest houses in the world, and people call it a "crisis" when the average price to income ratio is 8.

This isn't your imagination TGD, this is real. And back when the CCP was starving 50 million Chinese people to death by trying to feed them all equally, they somehow managed to convince them to feel sorry for the westerners who were even worse off. You can kind of forgive their ignorance, as they were literally kept in the dark and threatened with death for asking the wrong questions. But no-one can explain the gullibility of today's little pinks.

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Re: CCP stooges: less poverty in China than the west
Reply #201 - May 13^th, 2024 at 12:19pm

freediver wrote on May 12^th, 2024 at 4:26pm:

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In China, the average price to income ratio is approximately 29 - that is, you need 29 years salary to buy your own home. This is despite the tiny sizes and poor quality in China. In Australia, we have the largest houses in the world, and people call it a "crisis" when the average price to income ratio is 8.

This isn't your imagination TGD, this is real. And back when the CCP was starving 50 million Chinese people to death by trying to feed them all equally, they somehow managed to convince them to feel sorry for the westerners who were even worse off. You can kind of forgive their ignorance, as they were literally kept in the dark and threatened with death for asking the wrong questions. But no-one can explain the gullibility of today's little pinks.

Thoroughly examined and refuted in the 'CCP propaganda' thread.

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Re: CCP stooges: less poverty in China than the west
Reply #202 - May 13^th, 2024 at 12:26pm

thegreatdivide wrote on May 13^th, 2024 at 12:19pm:

freediver wrote on May 12^th, 2024 at 4:26pm:

https://www.ozpolitic.com/album/forum-attachments/gdp_per_capita.PNG

In China, the average price to income ratio is approximately 29 - that is, you need 29 years salary to buy your own home. This is despite the tiny sizes and poor quality in China. In Australia, we have the largest houses in the world, and people call it a "crisis" when the average price to income ratio is 8.

This isn't your imagination TGD, this is real. And back when the CCP was starving 50 million Chinese people to death by trying to feed them all equally, they somehow managed to convince them to feel sorry for the westerners who were even worse off. You can kind of forgive their ignorance, as they were literally kept in the dark and threatened with death for asking the wrong questions. But no-one can explain the gullibility of today's little pinks.

Thoroughly examined and refuted in the 'CCP propaganda' thread.

You are confused, little pink.

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Re: CCP stooges: less poverty in China than the west
Reply #203 - May 13^th, 2024 at 12:57pm

freediver wrote on May 13^th, 2024 at 12:26pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 13^th, 2024 at 12:19pm:

freediver wrote on May 12^th, 2024 at 4:26pm:

https://www.ozpolitic.com/album/forum-attachments/gdp_per_capita.PNG

In China, the average price to income ratio is approximately 29 - that is, you need 29 years salary to buy your own home. This is despite the tiny sizes and poor quality in China. In Australia, we have the largest houses in the world, and people call it a "crisis" when the average price to income ratio is 8.

This isn't your imagination TGD, this is real. And back when the CCP was starving 50 million Chinese people to death by trying to feed them all equally, they somehow managed to convince them to feel sorry for the westerners who were even worse off. You can kind of forgive their ignorance, as they were literally kept in the dark and threatened with death for asking the wrong questions. But no-one can explain the gullibility of today's little pinks.

Thoroughly examined and refuted in the 'CCP propaganda' thread.

You are confused, little pink.

You forgot to say why; see the other thread if you think you have the nous to say why....

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49969 At my desk.	Re: CCP stooges: less poverty in China than the west Reply #204 - May 13^th, 2024 at 12:58pm You have never thoroughly examined or refuted anything. You just parrot CCP propaganda, most of which you do not even understand, then claim some kind of moronic victory.
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Re: CCP stooges: less poverty in China than the west
Reply #205 - May 13^th, 2024 at 1:05pm

freediver wrote on May 13^th, 2024 at 12:58pm:

You have never thoroughly examined or refuted anything. You just parrot CCP propaganda, most of which you do not even understand, then claim some kind of moronic victory.

Obvious lie: I just refuted your above nonsense in the other thread.

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1710901371/405

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49969 At my desk.	Re: CCP stooges: less poverty in China than the west Reply #206 - May 13^th, 2024 at 1:19pm No you didn't. You are confused, little pink.
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thegreatdivide Gold Member Offline Australian Politics<br /> Posts: 13820 Gender:	Re: CCP stooges: less poverty in China than the west Reply #207 - May 13^th, 2024 at 2:00pm freediver wrote on May 13^th, 2024 at 1:19pm: No you didn't. You are confused, little pink. This is silly, stick to the CCP propaganda thread, where I am exposing your silliness....
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Re: CCP stooges: less poverty in China than the west
Reply #208 - May 13^th, 2024 at 3:20pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 10^th, 2022 at 11:21am:

freediver wrote on Feb 9^th, 2022 at 6:20pm:

Nothing has changed to our understanding since 1960. The CCP has removed it's head from it's arse.

Re the West: true, that's why poverty remains entrenched in the West despite material advancement.

Whereas the CCP has changed as you say, which is why common prosperity is rapidly being attained in China.

Do you have anything to back up these claims, or are they impossible to back up because the meaning disappears as soon as you look at them?

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Re: CCP stooges: less poverty in China than the west
Reply #209 - May 14^th, 2024 at 12:13pm

freediver wrote on May 13^th, 2024 at 3:20pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 10^th, 2022 at 11:21am:

freediver wrote on Feb 9^th, 2022 at 6:20pm:

Nothing has changed to our understanding since 1960. The CCP has removed it's head from it's arse.

Re the West: true, that's why poverty remains entrenched in the West despite material advancement.

Whereas the CCP has changed as you say, which is why common prosperity is rapidly being attained in China.

Do you have anything to back up these claims, or are they impossible to back up because the meaning disappears as soon as you look at them?

Look at the growth in gdp per capita charts for China versus Western nations since 1980 when Deng adopted free market principles.

The problem now of course is the contradictions of free markets are now beginning to show in China, as they have always existed in the West with its free market failures and boom and bust economic cycles.

Fortunately the CCP is lately showing signs of taking the necessary steps to ameliorate free market failure.

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