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Reply #60 - Feb 9th, 2022 at 12:46pm
 
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Reply #61 - Feb 9th, 2022 at 3:53pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 8th, 2022 at 5:49pm:
Rocky what colours do you see right now when you look at that shoe?


I had seen this picture posted somewhere on the internet some time ago. What I saw was pink shoes with turquoise laces. The answer was something like red shoes with white laces.
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Reply #62 - Feb 9th, 2022 at 5:02pm
 
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 12:37pm:
Dnarever wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 9:58am:
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 9:51am:
Redmond Neck wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 9:42am:
Another famous one is the dress black and blue or white and gold

Actually looks brown and blue to me!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_dress




Was that in a rigged light as well?  If there were visual differences between individuals in normal light I might consider this.... when it is rigged...


The explanation said that it is the perceived light natural or artificial which is unknown. It goes on to say that owls people who are awake in the night naturally assume artificial and that early risers naturally assume natural light. This impacts peoples default choice on blue balance. In natural light people auto reduce the impact of blue from the sky but night people naturally remove yellow from what they see.

I do not see a reason for this confusion as I clearly see what looks like natural external light reflected from a window in the dress image which is too bright to be a normal artificial light.

https://slate.com/technology/2017/04/heres-why-people-saw-the-dress-differently....


Photoshop?

The shoe is most likely under a strong fluoro light in a cabinet or similar, which gives the false image.  If it was in natural light the colours would be clear to all.  As I said - this is a cheat....


If it were light influenced why would people see different colours. While i see that this would skew the colour it should do the same for everyone?
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Reply #63 - Feb 9th, 2022 at 7:48pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 5:02pm:
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 12:37pm:
Dnarever wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 9:58am:
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 9:51am:
Redmond Neck wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 9:42am:
Another famous one is the dress black and blue or white and gold

Actually looks brown and blue to me!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_dress




Was that in a rigged light as well?  If there were visual differences between individuals in normal light I might consider this.... when it is rigged...


The explanation said that it is the perceived light natural or artificial which is unknown. It goes on to say that owls people who are awake in the night naturally assume artificial and that early risers naturally assume natural light. This impacts peoples default choice on blue balance. In natural light people auto reduce the impact of blue from the sky but night people naturally remove yellow from what they see.

I do not see a reason for this confusion as I clearly see what looks like natural external light reflected from a window in the dress image which is too bright to be a normal artificial light.

https://slate.com/technology/2017/04/heres-why-people-saw-the-dress-differently....


Photoshop?

The shoe is most likely under a strong fluoro light in a cabinet or similar, which gives the false image.  If it was in natural light the colours would be clear to all.  As I said - this is a cheat....


If it were light influenced why would people see different colours. While i see that this would skew the colour it should do the same for everyone?


Well - it ain't under natural light or they'd all see the same colours.
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Reply #64 - Feb 9th, 2022 at 8:19pm
 
I repeat myself here as I was right all along.


Hi Lisa,
the image you have shown has the colours out of balance.
There is not enough Red.

When put in Photoshop and the Red channel boosted -
the laces return to the correct colour of White -
the shoe changes to Pink
and the thumb and hand returns to normal skin tones.

So your picture was either taken in the wrong light
or was mal-adjusted in Photoshop.

I have returned it to normal here:



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Reply #65 - Feb 10th, 2022 at 7:38am
 
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 7:48pm:
Dnarever wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 5:02pm:
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 12:37pm:
Dnarever wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 9:58am:
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 9:51am:
Redmond Neck wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 9:42am:
Another famous one is the dress black and blue or white and gold

Actually looks brown and blue to me!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_dress




Was that in a rigged light as well?  If there were visual differences between individuals in normal light I might consider this.... when it is rigged...


The explanation said that it is the perceived light natural or artificial which is unknown. It goes on to say that owls people who are awake in the night naturally assume artificial and that early risers naturally assume natural light. This impacts peoples default choice on blue balance. In natural light people auto reduce the impact of blue from the sky but night people naturally remove yellow from what they see.

I do not see a reason for this confusion as I clearly see what looks like natural external light reflected from a window in the dress image which is too bright to be a normal artificial light.

https://slate.com/technology/2017/04/heres-why-people-saw-the-dress-differently....


Photoshop?

The shoe is most likely under a strong fluoro light in a cabinet or similar, which gives the false image.  If it was in natural light the colours would be clear to all.  As I said - this is a cheat....


If it were light influenced why would people see different colours. While i see that this would skew the colour it should do the same for everyone?


Well - it ain't under natural light or they'd all see the same colours.


It is definitely not under natural light or the colour balance is somehow adjusted. But still the explanation for people seeing different colours is not explained by this fact. It does set the stage for the difference in colour perception to be triggered. whatever that is.
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Reply #66 - Feb 10th, 2022 at 9:04am
 
Bobby. wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 8:19pm:
I repeat myself here as I was right all along.


Hi Lisa,
the image you have shown has the colours out of balance.
There is not enough Red.

When put in Photoshop and the Red channel boosted -
the laces return to the correct colour of White -
the shoe changes to Pink
and the thumb and hand returns to normal skin tones.

So your picture was either taken in the wrong light
or was mal-adjusted in Photoshop.

I have returned it to normal here:



https://www.ozpolitic.com/album/forum-attachments/24FEC915-CCE3-4F01-9930-482B78...


Grin

That's exactly the same colours I saw in her photo.

Pink shoe white laces

You dolt
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Reply #67 - Feb 10th, 2022 at 9:15am
 
Gnads wrote on Feb 10th, 2022 at 9:04am:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 8:19pm:
I repeat myself here as I was right all along.


Hi Lisa,
the image you have shown has the colours out of balance.
There is not enough Red.

When put in Photoshop and the Red channel boosted -
the laces return to the correct colour of White -
the shoe changes to Pink
and the thumb and hand returns to normal skin tones.

So your picture was either taken in the wrong light
or was mal-adjusted in Photoshop.

I have returned it to normal here:



https://www.ozpolitic.com/album/forum-attachments/24FEC915-CCE3-4F01-9930-482B78...


Grin

That's exactly the same colours I saw in her photo.

Pink shoe white laces

You dolt



Then do a Google search for a colour blind test.
You dolt.
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Reply #68 - Feb 10th, 2022 at 9:36am
 
Gnads wrote on Feb 10th, 2022 at 9:04am:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 8:19pm:
I repeat myself here as I was right all along.


Hi Lisa,
the image you have shown has the colours out of balance.
There is not enough Red.

When put in Photoshop and the Red channel boosted -
the laces return to the correct colour of White -
the shoe changes to Pink
and the thumb and hand returns to normal skin tones.

So your picture was either taken in the wrong light
or was mal-adjusted in Photoshop.

I have returned it to normal here:



https://www.ozpolitic.com/album/forum-attachments/24FEC915-CCE3-4F01-9930-482B78...


Grin

That's exactly the same colours I saw in her photo.

Pink shoe white laces

You dolt


That's interesting.

Bobby and I are showing you different coloured shoes but you only see pink and white.

A number of my cousins (both male and female) are like you Gnads. They simply do not see grey shoes with turquoise laces irrespective of my original pic vs the pic Bobby has put up.

There are a number of competing theories as to why. I have previously posted what the more prevailing and persuasive ones have concluded.

Our brains function differently.

NB This has NOTHING to do with colour blindness. The same conclusions reached by Gnads who is a male is also reported by females.

Females cannot be colour blind. Colour blindness is a sex linked issue.




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Reply #69 - Feb 10th, 2022 at 9:39am
 
Here is the more prevalent and persuasive perspective on what is really going on:

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 8:50am:
Is the shoe pink or grey? What you see tells something interesting about you.

Some are seeing the footwear as a combination of grey and teal, while others are viewing it as a pink sneaker with white edges. Bizarre, isn’t it? The shoe is stirring up quite a sensation online as people continue to pit against each other because of the maddening illusion.

The debate actually began when a UK woman posted a picture of these sneaky sneakers on a Facebook group, insisting that they were pink in colour.


SO, ARE THESE SHOES TEAL AND GREY, OR PINK AND WHITE?

*Drum rolls* The shoes are actually pink and white. So, all of you who are viewing it as blue and teal, your eyes are deceiving you. Several theories are floating around online which talk about the right and left brain dominance. It is being said that if your left brain is dominant, you will see grey and green and if your right brain is dominant, you are bound to see pink and white.

Left-brain dominance

The theory of left-brain dominance says that people who are actually “left-brained” tend to be more logical, practical and analytical. They also prefer cold, hard facts.

Right-brain dominance

While on the other hand, the “right-brained” people are more imaginative, thoughtful and even intuitive. They also tend to more creative and artistic by nature.

So, why exactly do we see the colours differently. Experts have actually weighed in to settle this ferocious debate.

According to Wally Thoreson, professor of ophthalmology and visual sciences at the University of Nebraska Medical Center, “People who see a pink shoe see a blue light in the background.

People who see a grey shoe are being told by their brains that the light is white. In the case of this image, our brain is also taking cues from the colour of the hand holding the shoe.

And some people may have subconsciously factored in that shoelaces are typically white.”
"Each of us makes slightly different unconscious assumptions,” he also added.

This biological phenomenon actually says a lot about the ways in which our body functions and the choices our magnificent brain makes.

The Vans footwear in question is actually pink in colour and is sold online in Europe



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Reply #70 - Feb 10th, 2022 at 9:40am
 
Deception.

"Can a female be colourblind?
Image result for can females be color blind
The primary cause of color blindness is a lack of light-sensitive pigments in the cones of the eye. This inherited condition affects mostly males , but females can also be colorblind.Feb 13, 2020"

Lisa Jones wrong again.
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Reply #71 - Feb 10th, 2022 at 9:52am
 
Bobby. wrote on Feb 10th, 2022 at 9:15am:
Gnads wrote on Feb 10th, 2022 at 9:04am:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 8:19pm:
I repeat myself here as I was right all along.


Hi Lisa,
the image you have shown has the colours out of balance.
There is not enough Red.

When put in Photoshop and the Red channel boosted -
the laces return to the correct colour of White -
the shoe changes to Pink
and the thumb and hand returns to normal skin tones.

So your picture was either taken in the wrong light
or was mal-adjusted in Photoshop.

I have returned it to normal here:



https://www.ozpolitic.com/album/forum-attachments/24FEC915-CCE3-4F01-9930-482B78...


Grin

That's exactly the same colours I saw in her photo.

Pink shoe white laces

You dolt



Then do a Google search for a colour blind test.
You dolt.


Bobby

This is all I could find on colour blindness.

It's only 12 months old stuff too.

Colour blindness is a common hereditary (inherited) condition which means it is usually passed down from your parents.

Red/green colour blindness is passed from mother to son on the 23rd chromosome, which is known as the sex chromosome because it also determines sex. Chromosomes are structures which contain genes – these contain the instructions for the development of cells, tissues and organs. If you are colour blind it means the instructions for the development of your cone cells are different to those for people who have ‘normal’ colour vision meaning one cone cell type might be missing, or less sensitive to light or it may be that the pathway from your cone cells to your brain has not developed in the usual way.

For the sake of simplicity we refer to a colour blind ‘gene’ but this is not strictly a true description.

The 23rd chromosome is made up of two parts – either two X chromosomes if you are female or an X and a Y chromosome if you are male. The ‘gene’ which causes (inherited, red and green types of) colour blindness is found only on the X chromosome. So, for a male to be colour blind the colour blindness ‘gene’ only has to appear on his X chromosome. For a female to be colour blind it must be present on both of her X chromosomes.

If a woman has only one colour blind ‘gene’ she is known as a ‘carrier’ but she won’t be colour blind. When she has a child she will give one of her X chromosomes to the child. If she gives the X chromosome with the colour blindness ‘gene’ to her son he will be colour blind, but if he receives the X chromosome which doesn’t carry the colour blindness ‘gene’, he won’t be colour blind.

A colour blind boy can’t receive a colour blind ‘gene’ from his father, even if his father is colour blind, because his father can only pass an X chromosome to his daughters.

A colour blind daughter therefore must have a father who is colour blind and a mother who is a carrier (who has also passed the colour blindness ‘gene’ to her daughter). If her father is not colour blind, a ‘carrier’ daughter won’t be colour blind. A daughter can become a carrier in one of two ways – she can acquire the ‘gene’ from a carrier mother or from a colour blind father.

This is why red/green colour blindness is far more common in men than women.

Blue/yellow colour blindness affects both men and women equally, because it is carried on a non-sex chromosome.

For the sake of the following explanation a normal X chromosome is shown as (X) whilst a colour blind carrying X chromosome is shown in bold (X).

The colour blind ‘gene’ is carried on one of the X chromosomes. Since men have only one X chromosome, if his X chromosome carries the colour blind ‘gene’ (X) he will be colour blind (XY). A woman can have either:-
(i) two normal X chromosomes, so that she will not be colour blind or be a carrier (XX),
(ii) or, one normal X and one colour blind carrying X chromosome, in which case she will be a carrier (XX), or rarely
(iii)      she will inherit a colour blind X from her father and a colour blind X from her mother and be colour blind herself (XX). She will pass on colour blindness to all of her sons if this is the case.

Bottom Line?

Colour blindness is rare in women and colours affected are narrow in range.

Note : When I was at Uni back in the 1990's ...we were taught that colour blindness was essentially like hemophilia :

• Sex linked

• males - phenotype

• females - genotype

Fast forward to today : Science has identified more conditions AND RARE INSTANCES where women have exhibited these conditions.

This topic is not about colour blindness.

If it was then I have 3 female cousins from the same family who are all colour blind and their only brother isn't colour blind 😂🤣😆


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Reply #72 - Feb 10th, 2022 at 10:37am
 
Bobby. wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 8:19pm:
I repeat myself here as I was right all along.


Hi Lisa,
the image you have shown has the colours out of balance.
There is not enough Red.

When put in Photoshop and the Red channel boosted -
the laces return to the correct colour of White -
the shoe changes to Pink
and the thumb and hand returns to normal skin tones.

So your picture was either taken in the wrong light
or was mal-adjusted in Photoshop.

I have returned it to normal here:



https://www.ozpolitic.com/album/forum-attachments/24FEC915-CCE3-4F01-9930-482B78...


Thanks, Bobby. I trust that puts the matter to rest.

Stop trying to perceive, leftards, you're wasting your time. Shoe colour doesn't count.
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Reply #73 - Feb 10th, 2022 at 6:05pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Feb 10th, 2022 at 9:15am:
Gnads wrote on Feb 10th, 2022 at 9:04am:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 8:19pm:
I repeat myself here as I was right all along.


Hi Lisa,
the image you have shown has the colours out of balance.
There is not enough Red.

When put in Photoshop and the Red channel boosted -
the laces return to the correct colour of White -
the shoe changes to Pink
and the thumb and hand returns to normal skin tones.

So your picture was either taken in the wrong light
or was mal-adjusted in Photoshop.

I have returned it to normal here:



https://www.ozpolitic.com/album/forum-attachments/24FEC915-CCE3-4F01-9930-482B78...


Grin

That's exactly the same colours I saw in her photo.

Pink shoe white laces

You dolt



Then do a Google search for a colour blind test.
You dolt.


It's called an Isihara Test you dolt.

I used to have to do one for every work medical I undertook.

It's bullshit because if you pass it you don't have ..

"COLOUR DEFICIENCY".

You cannot acquire it you are born with it.

You are not "blind" to colour,

you are non receptive to certain colours.

The term "colour blindness" is a misnomer.

And dopes like you do not fathom that.

Quote:
The Ishihara test is a color perception test for red-green color deficiencies, the first in a class of successful color vision tests called pseudo-isochromatic plates ("PIP"). It was named after its designer, Shinobu Ishihara, a professor at the University of Tokyo, who first published his tests in 1917.[2]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishihara_test

Get a grip dipshyte.
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Reply #74 - Feb 10th, 2022 at 6:07pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 10th, 2022 at 9:36am:
Gnads wrote on Feb 10th, 2022 at 9:04am:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 8:19pm:
I repeat myself here as I was right all along.


Hi Lisa,
the image you have shown has the colours out of balance.
There is not enough Red.

When put in Photoshop and the Red channel boosted -
the laces return to the correct colour of White -
the shoe changes to Pink
and the thumb and hand returns to normal skin tones.

So your picture was either taken in the wrong light
or was mal-adjusted in Photoshop.

I have returned it to normal here:



https://www.ozpolitic.com/album/forum-attachments/24FEC915-CCE3-4F01-9930-482B78...


Grin

That's exactly the same colours I saw in her photo.

Pink shoe white laces

You dolt


That's interesting.

Bobby and I are showing you different coloured shoes but you only see pink and white.

A number of my cousins (both male and female) are like you Gnads. They simply do not see grey shoes with turquoise laces irrespective of my original pic vs the pic Bobby has put up.

There are a number of competing theories as to why. I have previously posted what the more prevailing and persuasive ones have concluded.

Our brains function differently.

NB This has NOTHING to do with colour blindness. The same conclusions reached by Gnads who is a male is also reported by females.

Females cannot be colour blind. Colour blindness is a sex linked issue.






As I said to Booby there's no such thing as "colour blindness" ...

it's colour deficiency.
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