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Reply #45 - Feb 9^th, 2022 at 8:47am

Bobby. wrote on Feb 9^th, 2022 at 8:37am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 9^th, 2022 at 8:30am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 9^th, 2022 at 8:18am:

Hi Lisa,
why did you upload the same picture 6 times?

Your original picture has the link:
https://www.ozpolitic.com/album/forum-attachments/A9EC6518-68B8-49D4-B2AA-E27FE69CCE84.jpeg

which if you put the image brackets around it -
it will post the same pic again
without uploading the pic again and again.
It just wastes space in the picture attachment area of Ozpolitic
which has been overloaded before -
FD had to allocate more space for it at one stage.

Yep. STILL stressing over the nitty gritty and being all analytical.

You definitely saw a grey shoe with turquoise laces.

Actually out of everyone on Ozpolitics...you Bobby, stressed out the most about this pic - not only what the pic showed but also every conceivable specification affecting it. The left part of your brain is very powerful. The right side of your brain needs more exercise Bobby.

Hi Lisa,
you didn't answer my question about uploading?

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Please share this exercise with your family and friends.
It's a fun way of seeing who is more left brained and who is more right brained.

It has nothing to do with the left and right brain -
it's about colour blindness.
That is caused by a lack of colour receptor cells in the retina of the eye.

No. It has nothing to do with colour blindness.

Women AND men will report either pink shoes or grey shoes.

Remember women can't be colour blind. It's in our genotype not phenotype.

Have a read of this next article I'm about to put up (which will hopefully be enough of an explanation for you Bobby)

OMG you are such a typical left brainiac lol.

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Reply #46 - Feb 9^th, 2022 at 8:50am

Is the shoe pink or grey? What you see tells something interesting about you.

Some are seeing the footwear as a combination of grey and teal, while others are viewing it as a pink sneaker with white edges. Bizarre, isn’t it? The shoe is stirring up quite a sensation online as people continue to pit against each other because of the maddening illusion.

The debate actually began when a UK woman posted a picture of these sneaky sneakers on a Facebook group, insisting that they were pink in colour.

SO, ARE THESE SHOES TEAL AND GREY, OR PINK AND WHITE?

*Drum rolls* The shoes are actually pink and white. So, all of you who are viewing it as blue and teal, your eyes are deceiving you. Several theories are floating around online which talk about the right and left brain dominance. It is being said that if your left brain is dominant, you will see grey and green and if your right brain is dominant, you are bound to see pink and white.

Left-brain dominance

The theory of left-brain dominance says that people who are actually “left-brained” tend to be more logical, practical and analytical. They also prefer cold, hard facts.

Right-brain dominance

While on the other hand, the “right-brained” people are more imaginative, thoughtful and even intuitive. They also tend to more creative and artistic by nature.

So, why exactly do we see the colours differently. Experts have actually weighed in to settle this ferocious debate.

According to Wally Thoreson, professor of ophthalmology and visual sciences at the University of Nebraska Medical Center, “People who see a pink shoe see a blue light in the background.

People who see a grey shoe are being told by their brains that the light is white. In the case of this image, our brain is also taking cues from the colour of the hand holding the shoe.

And some people may have subconsciously factored in that shoelaces are typically white.”
"Each of us makes slightly different unconscious assumptions,” he also added.

This biological phenomenon actually says a lot about the ways in which our body functions and the choices our magnificent brain makes.

The Vans footwear in question is actually pink in colour and is sold online in Europe

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Reply #47 - Feb 9^th, 2022 at 9:12am

Grasshopper - you admitted the light was rigged - the colour is as it is seen as it is. Put the photo in another light. This is a silly cheat.

It doesn't matter that a cat is black during the day if it is grey at night. You see what you see, and there is no failure or weakness in the sight of the viewer.... no error. Our eyes are perfect as they are and for good reason.

Silly game.

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Reply #48 - Feb 9^th, 2022 at 9:35am

Gnads wrote on Feb 9^th, 2022 at 8:22am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 9^th, 2022 at 7:50am:

Gnads wrote on Feb 9^th, 2022 at 7:21am:

The shoe looks pink with white laces to me.

Simple question.

Simple answer.

Awesome stuff 👌

So let me just double check : Gnads you're saying that my attached pic is of a pink shoe with white laces

👇 This pic is of a pink shoe with white laces. And you're very sure of it. Yes?

That's what I said - pink shoe - white laces. Roll Eyes

Are you going to elaborate?

Now read my tea leaves Gypsy!

Oh - Tessomancy .

My dear you have the Grim.

One of the darkest omens.

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Redmond Neck Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 23568 ACT Gender:	Re: • PeRcEpTiOn • Reply #49 - Feb 9^th, 2022 at 9:42am Another famous one is the dress black and blue or white and gold Actually looks brown and blue to me! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_dress
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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 61858 Here Gender:	Re: • PeRcEpTiOn • Reply #50 - Feb 9^th, 2022 at 9:42am An odd thing to me is that the grey shoe has a lot of teal bleed and areas of pink tinge but the ringer is that most of the stitching looks white. Considering that the white laces have been perceived as blue - green I would assume that the white stitches should do the same but they don't.
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Reply #51 - Feb 9^th, 2022 at 9:51am

Redmond Neck wrote on Feb 9^th, 2022 at 9:42am:

Another famous one is the dress black and blue or white and gold

Actually looks brown and blue to me!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_dress

Was that in a rigged light as well? If there were visual differences between individuals in normal light I might consider this.... when it is rigged...

This may have nothing at all to do with 'left brain/right brain' - but more to do with the physical structure of the individual eye. I see better at night than most, and suffer badly from glare during the day.

When every individual has different DNA structure, it seems to me near impossible to bring such a thing down to a single idea of brain side dominance, and inferred characteristics, such as creativity etc, stemming from that. Much of this sounds like conjecture to me, with more than a tinge of elitism either way.

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Reply #52 - Feb 9^th, 2022 at 9:58am

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Feb 9^th, 2022 at 9:51am:

Redmond Neck wrote on Feb 9^th, 2022 at 9:42am:

Another famous one is the dress black and blue or white and gold

Actually looks brown and blue to me!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_dress

Was that in a rigged light as well? If there were visual differences between individuals in normal light I might consider this.... when it is rigged...

The explanation said that it is the perceived light natural or artificial which is unknown. It goes on to say that owls people who are awake in the night naturally assume artificial and that early risers naturally assume natural light. This impacts peoples default choice on blue balance. In natural light people auto reduce the impact of blue from the sky but night people naturally remove yellow from what they see.

I do not see a reason for this confusion as I clearly see what looks like natural external light reflected from a window in the dress image which is too bright to be a normal artificial light.

https://slate.com/technology/2017/04/heres-why-people-saw-the-dress-differently....

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Reply #53 - Feb 9^th, 2022 at 10:14am

Bobby. wrote on Feb 9^th, 2022 at 8:37am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 9^th, 2022 at 8:30am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 9^th, 2022 at 8:18am:

Hi Lisa,
why did you upload the same picture 6 times?

Your original picture has the link:
https://www.ozpolitic.com/album/forum-attachments/A9EC6518-68B8-49D4-B2AA-E27FE69CCE84.jpeg

which if you put the image brackets around it -
it will post the same pic again
without uploading the pic again and again.
It just wastes space in the picture attachment area of Ozpolitic
which has been overloaded before -
FD had to allocate more space for it at one stage.

Yep. STILL stressing over the nitty gritty and being all analytical.

You definitely saw a grey shoe with turquoise laces.

Actually out of everyone on Ozpolitics...you Bobby, stressed out the most about this pic - not only what the pic showed but also every conceivable specification affecting it. The left part of your brain is very powerful. The right side of your brain needs more exercise Bobby.

Hi Lisa,
you didn't answer my question about uploading?

Also:
You said
Quote:

Please share this exercise with your family and friends.
It's a fun way of seeing who is more left brained and who is more right brained.

It has nothing to do with the left and right brain -
it's about colour blindness.
That is caused by a lack of colour receptor cells in the retina of the eye.

There's no such thing - it's a misnomer.

It's called colour deficiency..... not blindness.

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Reply #54 - Feb 9^th, 2022 at 10:22am

Gnads wrote on Feb 9^th, 2022 at 10:14am:

There's no such thing - it's a misnomer.

It's called colour deficiency..... not blindness.

Apologise:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_blindness

Color blindness (color vision deficiency) is the decreased ability to see color or differences in color.[3] It can impair tasks such as selecting ripe fruit, choosing clothing, and reading traffic lights.[3] Color blindness may make some educational activities more difficult.[3] However, problems are generally minor, and most color-blind adapt.[3] People with total color blindness (achromatopsia) may also be uncomfortable in bright environments[3] and have decreased visual acuity.

The most common cause of color blindness is an inherited problem in the development of one or more of the three sets of the eyes' cone cells, which sense color.[3] Among humans, males are more likely to be color blind than females, because the genes responsible for the most common forms of color blindness are on the X chromosome.[3] Females have two X chromosomes, so a defect in one is typically compensated for by the other. Non-color-blind females can carry genes for color blindness and pass them on to their children.[3] Males only have one X chromosome and therefore always express the genetic disorder if they have the recessive gene.[3] Color blindness can also result from physical or chemical damage to the eye, the optic nerve, or parts of the brain.[3] Diagnosis is typically with the Ishihara color test; other methods include genetic testing.[3][4]

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Reply #55 - Feb 9^th, 2022 at 10:29am

Bobby. wrote on Feb 9^th, 2022 at 10:22am:

Gnads wrote on Feb 9^th, 2022 at 10:14am:

There's no such thing - it's a misnomer.

It's called colour deficiency..... not blindness.

Apologise:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_blindness

Color blindness (color vision deficiency) is the decreased ability to see color or differences in color.[3] It can impair tasks such as selecting ripe fruit, choosing clothing, and reading traffic lights.[3] Color blindness may make some educational activities more difficult.[3] However, problems are generally minor, and most color-blind adapt.[3] People with total color blindness (achromatopsia) may also be uncomfortable in bright environments[3] and have decreased visual acuity.

The most common cause of color blindness is an inherited problem in the development of one or more of the three sets of the eyes' cone cells, which sense color.[3] Among humans, males are more likely to be color blind than females, because the genes responsible for the most common forms of color blindness are on the X chromosome.[3] Females have two X chromosomes, so a defect in one is typically compensated for by the other. Non-color-blind females can carry genes for color blindness and pass them on to their children.[3] Males only have one X chromosome and therefore always express the genetic disorder if they have the recessive gene.[3] Color blindness can also result from physical or chemical damage to the eye, the optic nerve, or parts of the brain.[3] Diagnosis is typically with the Ishihara color test; other methods include genetic testing.[3][4]

It's there in you're own quote you idiot.

The use of the words "colour blindness" is an oft used & common misconception.

The "colour blindness" reference is there so common dumbarses like you can understand what you been lead to believe all your life.

You cannot be "blind" to(not see) colour & you cannot acquire colour deficiency as you age .... you are born with it.

Just face it Booby you're as clever as a box of rocks.

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Reply #56 - Feb 9^th, 2022 at 10:32am

Gnads wrote on Feb 9^th, 2022 at 10:29am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 9^th, 2022 at 10:22am:

Gnads wrote on Feb 9^th, 2022 at 10:14am:

There's no such thing - it's a misnomer.

It's called colour deficiency..... not blindness.

Apologise:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_blindness

Color blindness (color vision deficiency) is the decreased ability to see color or differences in color.[3] It can impair tasks such as selecting ripe fruit, choosing clothing, and reading traffic lights.[3] Color blindness may make some educational activities more difficult.[3] However, problems are generally minor, and most color-blind adapt.[3] People with total color blindness (achromatopsia) may also be uncomfortable in bright environments[3] and have decreased visual acuity.

The most common cause of color blindness is an inherited problem in the development of one or more of the three sets of the eyes' cone cells, which sense color.[3] Among humans, males are more likely to be color blind than females, because the genes responsible for the most common forms of color blindness are on the X chromosome.[3] Females have two X chromosomes, so a defect in one is typically compensated for by the other. Non-color-blind females can carry genes for color blindness and pass them on to their children.[3] Males only have one X chromosome and therefore always express the genetic disorder if they have the recessive gene.[3] Color blindness can also result from physical or chemical damage to the eye, the optic nerve, or parts of the brain.[3] Diagnosis is typically with the Ishihara color test; other methods include genetic testing.[3][4]

It's there in you're own quote you idiot.

The use of the words "colour blindness" is an oft used & common misconception.

The "colour blindness" reference is there so common dumbarses like you can understand what you been lead to believe all your life.

You cannot be "blind" to(not see) colour & you cannot acquire colour deficiency as you age .... you are born with it.

Just face it Bobby you're as clever as a box of rocks.

Apologise as you said

There's no such thing

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Reply #57 - Feb 9^th, 2022 at 10:35am

This shows you how to see the dress in both colours. It sort of works. Interesting for me is that I see the dress as Black Blue everywhere but here I see white gold. I do see the blue black somewhat peripherally.

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/how-to-see-the-dress-as-white-and-gold-and-bl...

When I went back to the page later I only seen the blue black until I went through the Liar image first and worked down the page. Doing this changed the colour i was seeing.

Does not work with the shoe.

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Reply #58 - Feb 9^th, 2022 at 11:34am

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 9^th, 2022 at 8:30am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 9^th, 2022 at 8:18am:

Hi Lisa,
why did you upload the same picture 6 times?

Your original picture has the link:
https://www.ozpolitic.com/album/forum-attachments/A9EC6518-68B8-49D4-B2AA-E27FE69CCE84.jpeg

which if you put the image brackets around it -
it will post the same pic again
without uploading the pic again and again.
It just wastes space in the picture attachment area of Ozpolitic
which has been overloaded before -
FD had to allocate more space for it at one stage.

Yep. STILL stressing over the nitty gritty and being all analytical.

You definitely saw a grey shoe with turquoise laces.

Actually out of everyone on Ozpolitics...you Bobby, stressed out the most about this pic - not only what the pic showed but also every conceivable specification affecting it. The left part of your brain is very powerful. The right side of your brain needs more exercise Bobby.

" ... there’s no evidence that what you see determines which side of your brain is most dominant."

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Reply #59 - Feb 9^th, 2022 at 12:37pm

Dnarever wrote on Feb 9^th, 2022 at 9:58am:

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Feb 9^th, 2022 at 9:51am:

Redmond Neck wrote on Feb 9^th, 2022 at 9:42am:

Another famous one is the dress black and blue or white and gold

Actually looks brown and blue to me!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_dress

Was that in a rigged light as well? If there were visual differences between individuals in normal light I might consider this.... when it is rigged...

The explanation said that it is the perceived light natural or artificial which is unknown. It goes on to say that owls people who are awake in the night naturally assume artificial and that early risers naturally assume natural light. This impacts peoples default choice on blue balance. In natural light people auto reduce the impact of blue from the sky but night people naturally remove yellow from what they see.

I do not see a reason for this confusion as I clearly see what looks like natural external light reflected from a window in the dress image which is too bright to be a normal artificial light.

https://slate.com/technology/2017/04/heres-why-people-saw-the-dress-differently....

Photoshop?

The shoe is most likely under a strong fluoro light in a cabinet or similar, which gives the false image. If it was in natural light the colours would be clear to all. As I said - this is a cheat....

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