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Reply #90 - Mar 4^th, 2022 at 9:47am

Frank wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 8:44am:

Labor’s 90 per cent childcare subsidy plan will cost taxpayers billions as rich benefit

Opposition Leader Anthony Albanese first committed to an “aspirational policy” of a 90 per cent childcare subsidy for all families – including those who make more than $500,000 per annum, in his budget reply in 2020.

Without detailing the costing, Mr Albanese said the goal would be examined by the Productivity Commission to test for viability, noting that cheaper childcare was a key economic measure.

But, new government analysis reveals a universal 90 per cent child care subsidy would rack up $213 billion in childcare spending over the next decade, $63b more than current government policies – which cuts off subsidies for families earning more than $354,305 a year.

Labor’s committed policy of extending the subsidy to families with incomes of up to $530K would cost an extra $29b over 10 years, but expanding to a 90 per cent subsidy for all families would add an additional $34b to the taxpayer receipt.

Under Labor’s proposal, all families sending one child to daycare five days a week would pay just $2662.5 in a year, while taxpayers would foot $23,962.50.

Families sending two children to daycare three days a week would pay $3195, while the taxpayer fronts up the other $28,755.

Frank's plagiarising someone else's text without attribution again.

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Reply #91 - Mar 4^th, 2022 at 6:21pm

Frank wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 8:44am:

Labor’s 90 per cent childcare subsidy plan will cost taxpayers billions as rich benefit

Opposition Leader Anthony Albanese first committed to an “aspirational policy” of a 90 per cent childcare subsidy for all families – including those who make more than $500,000 per annum, in his budget reply in 2020.

Without detailing the costing, Mr Albanese said the goal would be examined by the Productivity Commission to test for viability, noting that cheaper childcare was a key economic measure.

But, new government analysis reveals a universal 90 per cent child care subsidy would rack up $213 billion in childcare spending over the next decade, $63b more than current government policies – which cuts off subsidies for families earning more than $354,305 a year.

Labor’s committed policy of extending the subsidy to families with incomes of up to $530K would cost an extra $29b over 10 years, but expanding to a 90 per cent subsidy for all families would add an additional $34b to the taxpayer receipt.

Under Labor’s proposal, all families sending one child to daycare five days a week would pay just $2662.5 in a year, while taxpayers would foot $23,962.50.

Families sending two children to daycare three days a week would pay $3195, while the taxpayer fronts up the other $28,755.

Still waiting for the link wank.

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Captain Nemo Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11604 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Albo government scorecard Reply #92 - Mar 4^th, 2022 at 11:00pm Looks like it came from here: https://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/labors-90-per-cent-childcare-subsidy-pla...
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Reply #93 - Mar 4^th, 2022 at 11:09pm

Frank wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 6:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 6:30pm:

Labor majority government wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 2:24pm:

News in today , 77 former federal liberal ministers referred to police for prosecution after national integrity commision findings

Well, Scotty from Marketing WAS sacked from his last job for theft & fraud.

fappity fap, fappity fap. tsk, tsk Roll Eyes

Faster, wanker, faster!!!

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Yep you got the tsk tsk tsk right. It's him! The multi wanker of Yahoo AND OzPol! Brian Ross aka Greggary!

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Bam Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21905 Gender:	Re: Albo government scorecard Reply #94 - Mar 5^th, 2022 at 9:39am Captain Nemo wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 11:00pm: Looks like it came from here: https://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/labors-90-per-cent-childcare-subsidy-pla... No wonder he wasn't willing to provide a link.
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Reply #95 - Mar 5^th, 2022 at 9:41am

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 11:09pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 6:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 6:30pm:

Labor majority government wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 2:24pm:

News in today , 77 former federal liberal ministers referred to police for prosecution after national integrity commision findings

Well, Scotty from Marketing WAS sacked from his last job for theft & fraud.

fappity fap, fappity fap. tsk, tsk Roll Eyes

Faster, wanker, faster!!!

😂🤣

Yep you got the tsk tsk tsk right. It's him! The multi wanker of Yahoo AND OzPol! Brian Ross aka Greggary!

The Rightards have stopped discussing policy and they have resorted to personal attacks. That's how one knows that their political arguments have run out.

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Reply #96 - Mar 5^th, 2022 at 11:35pm

Jesus - he's only been there a week and already he's sold the entire country out to the Abos, the Ethnos, the feminists, the Poofs, the Chinkers, the Russkies, and every other group of whiners - and all this without once refuting the global economy and all that goes with it and without any meaningful changes to industrial relations or tax reforms ........

Give him a bit more time to really get going, would you?

Now you know the reality is that not much will change except the window dressing - which, sadly, all of those dissident groups are .... and farken gold-plated window dressing, too!

He already knows that per hour worked women are paid 12% more per hour than men...... but it doesn't fit the narrative.... he already knows the country will not be given to the Abos.... he already knows that meaningful changes to industrial relations are off the cards since he and his mates profit through shares - same with tax reforms and trust laws and so forth ... not to mention serial house hoarding destroying home ownership a creating massive inflation ... then there's privatisation and the adherence to the insanity of some 'global economy' ........what a load of sh1t.... he and all his mates prosper mightily from those things - why would they change them?

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Reply #97 - Mar 7^th, 2022 at 5:22pm

Frank wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 8:44am:

Labor’s 90 per cent childcare subsidy plan will cost taxpayers billions as rich benefit

Opposition Leader Anthony Albanese first committed to an “aspirational policy” of a 90 per cent childcare subsidy for all families – including those who make more than $500,000 per annum, in his budget reply in 2020.

Without detailing the costing, Mr Albanese said the goal would be examined by the Productivity Commission to test for viability, noting that cheaper childcare was a key economic measure.

But, new government analysis reveals a universal 90 per cent child care subsidy would rack up $213 billion in childcare spending over the next decade, $63b more than current government policies – which cuts off subsidies for families earning more than $354,305 a year.

Labor’s committed policy of extending the subsidy to families with incomes of up to $530K would cost an extra $29b over 10 years, but expanding to a 90 per cent subsidy for all families would add an additional $34b to the taxpayer receipt.

Under Labor’s proposal, all families sending one child to daycare five days a week would pay just $2662.5 in a year, while taxpayers would foot $23,962.50.

Families sending two children to daycare three days a week would pay $3195, while the taxpayer fronts up the other $28,755.

Couldn't find a dumber policy in a comedy skit.

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Very funny Scotty, now beam down my clothes.

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Reply #99 - Mar 7^th, 2022 at 6:14pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 5:59pm:

crocodile wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 5:22pm:

Couldn't find a dumber policy in a comedy skit.

That's because you have to be intelligent to do comedy successfully

If you want to find dumber polices, try the liberal party website instead

You are a tool. I don't give a flying fukk who dreamt this idiocy up. It is dumb policy regardless of who is proposing it.

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Very funny Scotty, now beam down my clothes.

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Reply #100 - Mar 7^th, 2022 at 7:31pm

crocodile wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 6:14pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 5:59pm:

crocodile wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 5:22pm:

Couldn't find a dumber policy in a comedy skit.

That's because you have to be intelligent to do comedy successfully

If you want to find dumber polices, try the liberal party website instead

You are a tool. I don't give a flying fukk who dreamt this idiocy up. It is dumb policy regardless of who is proposing it.

you seem to be arguing with yourself. I merely addressed the point you made about finding dumber policies in a comedy skit .

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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 59791 Here Gender:	Re: Albo government scorecard Reply #101 - Mar 7^th, 2022 at 8:22pm Why do Labor always insist on paying a lot of money to already wealthy people who do not need it ? I agree it is stupid and unaffordable.
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Reply #102 - Mar 7^th, 2022 at 8:23pm

crocodile wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 6:14pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 5:59pm:

crocodile wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 5:22pm:

Couldn't find a dumber policy in a comedy skit.

That's because you have to be intelligent to do comedy successfully

If you want to find dumber polices, try the liberal party website instead

You are a tool. I don't give a flying fukk who dreamt this idiocy up. It is dumb policy regardless of who is proposing it.

Freediver makes fun of Abo Frodo Smith every time he sees him post here. Why? Smith is a tool who has absolutely no idea.

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Reply #103 - Mar 7^th, 2022 at 8:54pm

macman wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 6:21pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 8:44am:

Labor’s 90 per cent childcare subsidy plan will cost taxpayers billions as rich benefit

Opposition Leader Anthony Albanese first committed to an “aspirational policy” of a 90 per cent childcare subsidy for all families – including those who make more than $500,000 per annum, in his budget reply in 2020.

Without detailing the costing, Mr Albanese said the goal would be examined by the Productivity Commission to test for viability, noting that cheaper childcare was a key economic measure.

But, new government analysis reveals a universal 90 per cent child care subsidy would rack up $213 billion in childcare spending over the next decade, $63b more than current government policies – which cuts off subsidies for families earning more than $354,305 a year.

Labor’s committed policy of extending the subsidy to families with incomes of up to $530K would cost an extra $29b over 10 years, but expanding to a 90 per cent subsidy for all families would add an additional $34b to the taxpayer receipt.

Under Labor’s proposal, all families sending one child to daycare five days a week would pay just $2662.5 in a year, while taxpayers would foot $23,962.50.

Families sending two children to daycare three days a week would pay $3195, while the taxpayer fronts up the other $28,755.

Still waiting for the link wank.

Let me get our head around this ?

The full cost of sending one child to pre school is about $27,000 a year.

Pre School Teachers are among the lowest paid in the workforce.

Pre school classes up to 15 children @ $27,000 is around $400,000

even at 10 it is $270,000.

The Pre School may be running 4 or 5 classes. $1.35 M (or $2 M @ 15 students).

Does this mean that to pay the full cost of pre school for someone on $100K would be 4 times their yearly income?

Does something seem not right here ?

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Reply #104 - Mar 8^th, 2022 at 6:20am

Dnarever wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 8:22pm:

Why do Labor always insist on paying a lot of money to already wealthy people who do not need it ?

I agree it is stupid and unaffordable.

Well - those at the bottom are not worth pulling up right? Labor is most decidedly an elitist group these days and totally dedicated to the New Order on which they are fattening nicely, thank you.... the New Order in which there will be Lords and peasants and such, a new feudal society with them among the top dogs.

Ridiculous amount of money to continue to pump into a job creation program for people who can't do much else... and in which the costs will just continue to rise and rise, with the kid looker-afterers becoming more 'qualified' as a necessity and demanding the wages of a university professor... and the businesses continuing to reap 50% or so of the total paid to them out of the government coffers.

Childcare is a personal responsibility ... money should only be given as subsidies to those who need it.... and I said NEED it.

Imagine a salary or wage being increased for 50% of the population to take in the cost of childcare, while the other 50% get nothing.... on this policy an extra 90% of $166 per day handed to people with kids while the rest go without... around $145 bonus per day for going to work while others wait at home on the dole for a chance - any chance.... and eventually retire with nothing.... and there are millions doing that out there.

So if two people are working the same job and earning the same dollars - let's say $300 a day - the one with a kid gets paid $445 for the day or nearly 50% more .... sounds like equal treatment to me.... and of course that cost will rise as childcare keeps going up and up. Failed luxury policy in a country rapidly dividing and going downhill.

WTF kind of policy is that?

I'll explain it to yez gently - it's a policy of discrimination and exclusion, and clearly feminist mathematics based - anything that benefits women is equality, right? 12% extra per hour actually worked is a 'right', right? Anything from 50% extra per day worked is a 'right', right - something inalienable and never to be taken away.

Maybe we need that world war to straighten all this moronic thinking out... told yez never to let them take top spot in this country.... and you think it's all sweetness and light when it's destroying this country and many others.

We want back pay for our PPL and such that we never got but paid for ourselves....!! Equality to the people NOW!

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