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Reply #255 - Feb 7th, 2023 at 8:09am
 
Captain Nemo wrote on Aug 2nd, 2022 at 2:29pm:
Anyone got their $275 bill reduction yet?  Undecided



I'm still waiting for my $550 pa promised by Tony Abbott on abolishing what he called "the carbon tax"

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-08-28/abbott-using-outdated-figure-on-carbon-ta...

Abbott delivered NO reduction - but increased carbon emissions.



Federal Opposition Leader Peter Dutton has claimed Labor should have known it would be difficult to deliver an election promise to cut household electricity bills because the Ukraine war began before the policy was announced.

The claim is false.
Labor announced the policy on December 3, 2021. Russia invaded Ukraine almost three months later on February 24, 2022.


https://www.aap.com.au/factcheck/dutton-muddles-labors-energy-promise-timeline/


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Reply #256 - Feb 7th, 2023 at 8:24am
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 7th, 2023 at 8:09am:
Captain Nemo wrote on Aug 2nd, 2022 at 2:29pm:
Anyone got their $275 bill reduction yet?  Undecided



I'm still waiting for my $550 pa promised by Tony Abbott on abolishing what he called "the carbon tax"

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-08-28/abbott-using-outdated-figure-on-carbon-ta...

Abbott delivered NO reduction - but increased carbon emissions.



Federal Opposition Leader Peter Dutton has claimed Labor should have known it would be difficult to deliver an election promise to cut household electricity bills because the Ukraine war began before the policy was announced.

The claim is false.
Labor announced the policy on December 3, 2021. Russia invaded Ukraine almost three months later on February 24, 2022.


https://www.aap.com.au/factcheck/dutton-muddles-labors-energy-promise-timeline/


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The war is not the cause, it is an exacerbation. Net zero is an idiotic sligan and will not be achieved this century, if at all.

And what is this gay obsession with 'emissions' anyway?. There is no such thing as "carbon emission".
CO2 is NOT a pollutant. It doesnt drive climate.



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Reply #257 - Feb 7th, 2023 at 11:39am
 
So much for the "warm and fuzzy" Albo government.

Wouldn't this be an opportunity to end the Nauru off-shore processing?  Wink

Instead:

...

Offshore bungle as Nauru legislation lapses
The government will move a motion today to redesignate Nauru as a regional processing country after legislation lapsed in October.  Shocked

Not only a bungle but the bastards are reinstating it as an off-shore processing site!  Angry
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Reply #258 - Feb 7th, 2023 at 1:00pm
 
Eventually, everyone in the 3rd/developing world will want to move to liberal democracies, and wimpy immigration policies will allow them to swamp any quota system.
At the same time, they will demand reparations while ignoring the irony of their own useless governments that replaced colonialism.
Indigenous advocates will welcome the flood, simply because they are not European, especially the evil British who established the system they want to take advantage of.
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Reply #259 - Feb 7th, 2023 at 8:04pm
 
issuevoter wrote on Feb 7th, 2023 at 1:00pm:
Eventually, everyone in the 3rd/developing world will want to move to liberal democracies, and wimpy immigration policies will allow them to swamp any quota system.
At the same time, they will demand reparations while ignoring the irony of their own useless governments that replaced colonialism.
Indigenous advocates will welcome the flood, simply because they are not European, especially the evil British who established the system they want to take advantage of.


Yes - then they can gradually change it into a more comfortable and familiar regime for them, with poverty on every corner and high infant mortality rates and curable disease, as well as intractable government of a few black robed despots or something.

I hate to say this - but it is simply not possible for the West to continue to absorb groups that will not assimilate and will create more problems than we currently face with spiraling downwards standards of everything.

It is time to declare the lifeboats full - and resolve our more realistic issues with genuine refugees, to whom we have actual obligations, before we start to even consider further downgrading our locals to bring in allegedly cheaper to provide 'expert' labour from Offshore...

As I say about the Alice Springers - Abos check your own backyards first - same here - Aussies check your own backyards first..... fix those problems and then we'll talk about nobly saving the world from the running street sewers...

Restore Equality and Equitable Treatment for ALL - Fair Go For ALL Australians - Equal Rights For All.
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Reply #260 - Feb 9th, 2023 at 10:55am
 
Tennis Albo spent three day at the tennis in Melbourne, 4 hours in Alice Springs.

Pwiowrithis, schmiorithies.

https://mobile.twitter.com/senbmckenzie/status/1622805927283036161
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Reply #261 - Feb 14th, 2023 at 10:50am
 
Frank wrote on Feb 9th, 2023 at 10:55am:
Tennis Albo spent three day at the tennis in Melbourne, 4 hours in Alice Springs.

Pwiowrithis, schmiorithies.

https://mobile.twitter.com/senbmckenzie/status/1622805927283036161



And now, gays before abos:

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese to march in Sydney's Mardi Gras parade amid Alice Springs crisis
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Reply #262 - Feb 14th, 2023 at 11:10am
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 7th, 2023 at 7:37am:
[quote author=Valkie link=1643775238/3#3 date=1643788526]

How could you vote for labor?

They are in bed with the greens






As the
Liberal
Party have been "in bed" with the
Nationals
in all of our living memories ?

It's bloody obvious the
Liberals
could never form government in their own right - without preferences and support in both houses by the
Nationals
.

It is MY wish that
Labor
would focus on what major values they SHARE with the
Greens
- rather than their minor DIFFERENCES.

What are Greens voters - but disgruntled Labor voters
, who believe Labor are not doing enough for the environment ?

For a long time I've voted
Labor in the house of government
- but support the
Greens in The Senate
.


Good post.

The only problem for the Greens is how to get the votes for their revenue-raising policies.




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Reply #263 - Feb 22nd, 2023 at 9:27am
 
Blimey.

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Ahead of today's wage price index ... a measure of inflation, wage growth and the gap since 1998. If wages hit 3.5% (market consensus), the gap between wages and inflation (7.8%) will reach a new record


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That ain't good. Sad
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Reply #264 - Feb 22nd, 2023 at 11:00am
 
Captain Nemo wrote on Feb 22nd, 2023 at 9:27am:
Blimey.

@swrighteconomy
Ahead of today's wage price index ... a measure of inflation, wage growth and the gap since 1998. If wages hit 3.5% (market consensus), the gap between wages and inflation (7.8%) will reach a new record
That ain't good. Sad


...irrespective of which party is in power; eg per capita GDP and median wages in Oz were falling, before the pandemic.
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Reply #265 - Feb 22nd, 2023 at 4:51pm
 
Frank wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 6:53pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 6:43pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 6:39pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 6:36pm:
Valkie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 5:55pm:
How could you vote for labor?

They are in bed with the greens
And if they get their way, we will be all living in poverty in 12 months.


Okay, I'll bite.

Which of Labor's policies, supported by the Greens, will have us all living in poverty in 12 months?




Nobbling the productive class to garner votes from the drongos.
That's what Labor/Greens  ALWAYS do.




Which of Labor's policies, supported by the Greens, will have us all living in poverty in 12 months?

Click on the link, read the policies, and explain (in twenty five words or less) which of Labor's policies will have us all living in poverty in 12 months?

Debate the policies like an adult.  You can do it.

“there will be no carbon tax under the government I lead”, uttered on August 16, 2010, five days before the last federal election.


And if that carbon tax and the shift to an ETS had remained on track, we'd now have a stable market, energy investment, and cheaper and lower polluting energy as a result. Every subsequent PM has conceded this, from Abbott to Turnbull to Scomo. Every subsequent PM bar Albanese has been forced by the fringes of his party and News Ltd to sabotage the economy and protect the coal industry.

We know this, you know it, every schoolboy knows.

All the ALP has ever done is stick to the centre-right on energy policy. All you've ever done is cling to the coal-funded, lunar fringe. You?

You.

This time we're done. We're moving on without you. Aussie Aussie Aussie, no?
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Reply #266 - Feb 22nd, 2023 at 4:59pm
 
Frank wrote on Feb 14th, 2023 at 10:50am:
Frank wrote on Feb 9th, 2023 at 10:55am:
Tennis Albo spent three day at the tennis in Melbourne, 4 hours in Alice Springs.

Pwiowrithis, schmiorithies.

https://mobile.twitter.com/senbmckenzie/status/1622805927283036161



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Prime Minister Anthony Albanese to march in Sydney's Mardi Gras parade amid Alice Springs crisis


Oh, I know. Because you want Prime Minister Anthony Albanese away from his electorate and up in Alice Springs ever so, no?

Why isn't our Prime Minister doing more to help the Aborigines? You ask. It's a scandal. They need our help now more than ever.

No, you've always been consistent on this, old boy. It's just the kind of chap you are, no?
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Reply #267 - Feb 22nd, 2023 at 5:03pm
 
Karnal wrote on Feb 22nd, 2023 at 4:51pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 6:53pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 6:43pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 6:39pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 6:36pm:
Valkie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 5:55pm:
How could you vote for labor?

They are in bed with the greens
And if they get their way, we will be all living in poverty in 12 months.


Okay, I'll bite.

Which of Labor's policies, supported by the Greens, will have us all living in poverty in 12 months?




Nobbling the productive class to garner votes from the drongos.
That's what Labor/Greens  ALWAYS do.




Which of Labor's policies, supported by the Greens, will have us all living in poverty in 12 months?

Click on the link, read the policies, and explain (in twenty five words or less) which of Labor's policies will have us all living in poverty in 12 months?

Debate the policies like an adult.  You can do it.

“there will be no carbon tax under the government I lead”, uttered on August 16, 2010, five days before the last federal election.


And if that carbon tax and the shift to an ETS had remained on track, we'd now have a stable market, energy investment, and cheaper and lower polluting energy as a result. Every subsequent PM has conceded this, from Abbott to Turnbull to Scomo. Every subsequent PM bar Albanese has been forced by the fringes of his party and News Ltd to sabotage the economy and protect the coal industry.

We know this, you know it, every schoolboy knows.

All the ALP has ever done is stick to the centre-right on energy policy. All you've ever done is cling to the coal-funded, lunar fringe. You?

You.

This time we're done. We're moving on without you. Aussie Aussie Aussie, no?


Good post. The Coalition are seeking permanent occupancy on the opposition benches. 

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Reply #268 - Feb 22nd, 2023 at 8:08pm
 
Australians hit by largest fall in real wages on record


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February 22, 2023 — 7.40pm

Australians are enduring the biggest fall in real wages on record, with new data prompting accusations the Reserve Bank’s sharp increase in interest rates to head off a wage-price spiral is causing unnecessary economic pain to ordinary workers.

Figures from the Australian Bureau of Statistics showed the closely watched wage price index increased by a lower than expected 0.8 per cent through the final three months of 2022. It took the annual rate of wages growth to a 10-year high of 3.3 per cent.

...

Treasurer Jim Chalmers says new data shows there is no wage-price spiral.CREDIT:ALEX ELLINGHAUSEN

But with inflation running at 7.8 per cent, the gap between wages and prices now stands at 4.5 per cent – the largest gap since the bureau started compiling its wage price index in 1998.

The Reserve Bank, as recently as its quarterly outlook on the economy, noted the importance of avoiding a price-wage spiral driven by the price-setting actions of businesses and a sharp increase in pay packets.

The ABS figures showed the proportion of people in the private sector getting a wage increase decreased from 23 per cent to 21 per cent, while the size of those pay increases also moderated, down from 4.3 per cent to 4 per cent.

In the public sector, wage growth is now running at an annual rate of 2.5 per cent. Wages for Victoria’s public sector workers lifted 2.8 per cent over the year, in NSW they increased 2.5 per cent and in Western Australia they inched up 1.1 per cent.

...

Treasurer Jim Chalmers said the figures proved there was no wage-price spiral.

“There is no evidence of a wage-price spiral in our economy. Wages growth isn’t the problem when it comes to inflation, it’s part of the solution to cost of living pressures,” he said.

“We don’t have an inflation challenge in our economy because wages are too high, but because of a war in Ukraine, pressure on global supply chains and other challenges in our own economy ignored for too long.”

Australian Council of Trade Unions secretary Sally McManus said the figures showed the Reserve Bank had again misread the state of the jobs market and its impact on wages.

“This is the greatest drop in workers’ real pay in recorded history
­– no wonder one in four workers are skipping meals,” she said. “The RBA was predicting much higher wage growth, and once again they’ve got it wrong. Not only is their thinking stuck in the 1970s, they’re basing interest rate decisions on flawed projections.”

The result was lower than financial market expectations and the Reserve Bank’s most recent forecasts, released less than a fortnight ago, which showed the RBA tipping wages growth at 3.5 per cent through 2022.

Callam Pickering, Asia-Pacific economist with job website Indeed, said the figures showed the purchasing power of incomes had crashed as inflation easily outstripped wage increases.

“Adjusted for inflation, Australian wages have fallen by 4.2 per cent over the past year and by 6.8 per cent since their peak,” he said.

“More than a decade of hard-won wage gains – our blood, sweat and tears – lost over the course of just one year. Unless you’ve received a promotion or changed employer recently, there is a good chance that your salary buys a lot less now than it did a year ago.”

AMP Capital senior economist Diana Mousina said the figures would challenge the Reserve Bank, which markets expect will take the cash rate to 4.1 per cent by the middle of the year.

She said the RBA may lift interest rates just once more as the wages figures add to growing evidence the economy is turning.

“There are now signs that the labour market is at a turning point, with jobs growth negative over December/January and forward-looking indicators of employment pointing to softer jobs growth in coming months,” she said.

“It will be difficult for wages growth to accelerate in an environment of a slowing labour force.”

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/australians-hit-by-largest-fall-in-re...



Next in line will be a wages / price spiral as people need higher wages to service their loans.

Guess what?

Which of these options do you think will happen?

1. Businesses will cut their profits to pay higher wages.

2. Businesses will pass on higher charges for their goods and services.

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Reply #269 - Feb 23rd, 2023 at 11:00am
 
Captain Nemo wrote on Feb 22nd, 2023 at 8:08pm:
Australians hit by largest fall in real wages on record


Yes...something to do with a pandemic and an ongoing war.


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Next in line will be a wages / price spiral as people need higher wages to service their loans.

Guess what?

Which of these options do you think will happen?

1. Businesses will cut their profits to pay higher wages.

2. Businesses will pass on higher charges for their goods and services.


#2..... unless the RBA causes a recession....

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